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next time I buy a nokia unlike n97 or n900,wait 2 months after release and find if any updates are comming number of app growth ratio etc

I remember I bought the n95 exactly 8 months after hearing how nice of a pda it was from people,and thought man n97 should defintly be the best like n95 for its time I was wrong,then i saw n900 i said this must be the true n97 online as it happens but it was offline lolooololoooolol

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Well said... I'm wondering if the same people would buy a car without trying it first just because the salesman said: "It's the best there is"... :D

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_MVn6GNguHN.../s400/auto.JPG

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My opinion: I can never say NO. I DID already buy their products before--and it WAS a good product in and of itself.

Going back to what I said at the start, the actual device itself aside, everything SURROUNDING it has been frustrating and obnoxious and has convinced me that a good product alone is not enough to make me want to buy another Nokia product. If they fix their source-code closed-mindedness and repair their customer support, parts and replacement experiences, I would once again consider purchasing from Nokia again. Right now, though, absolutely not. I would rather buy a MeeGo device from ANYONE but Nokia.

Good on you, man. You have my most appreciative gratitude but cynicism. :)

Still, despite your assurances, it's really hard to trust objectivity if you didn't actually spend hundreds of dollars like most customers do and then have the experience of spending more money on repairs/shipping/replacement/etc?

They're already TRENDING that way, what makes you think it'll make a difference? Besides, you've seen their attitude so far. They seem to make it a point of pride to ignore what anyone else is saying.

THANK you. PRECISELY my point all along. Nokia is a brand that has ruined itself because they think that their brand name ALONE will bring the masses. It's as if they feel that their brand can satisfy consumers alone and they don't have to compete on quality, service or anything else.

Leave it open for the community... except, not. Got problems with the calendar app? Bugs with the phone app? Drivers? Wish you could write a whole, much better, OS to replace theirs? No. DENIED. You're right about their intention and what they COULD do, but they didn't really deliver. In THAT regard, they're certainly no better than anyone else. No bragging rights there for them.

Their SERVICE is the WORST part. It is MUCH worse than anyone else's, so far, that I've experienced. Far and away, the worst.

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I love how you are dissing it without realising. A photo to illustrate it too

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_MVn6GNguHN.../s400/auto.JPG.

You could probably sell the n900 for that after 6 months. Nobody wants it for any higher. Pity there is the small matter of a £500 loss. Otherwise you might have had a point.

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I am not sure i agree. Most of the problem that are not caused by the user.. like drop it in a toilett. They have fixed/repaired. I have not seen so much cases where they have not. This is the stance for most companies.

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Please read my post again.. i don't know how you managed to misunderstand so deeply.

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Hey. Just trying to light the candle You're apparently holding... ;)

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I will require convincing.

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You are doing a good job! lol

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If the phone will answer my needs - why not? :confused:

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Actually.. i have no problems at all. And it is mostly open though not completely. Like i said in my post. And who knows.. maybe they open up more. There is a great deal to do if you put your mind to it. Apparently you haven't.

Most companies suck at support. Apple where famous for it awhile. I am not sure if they have done a 360 on it now..

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Perhaps because the company behind the phone won't provide adequate or competitive customer support?

Clearly, the fault for all the closed portions I can't fix is all mine. :rolleyes: Most companies HAD sucked at support--but the competitive landscape has made MOST of them far better at supporting their product than Nokia. Apple has PHYSICAL presence and, despite the high cost, at least you can get what you want if you're willing to pay for it. Nokia doesn't even want your money if you want to buy parts, a guaranteed immediate replacement or someone to talk to face-to-face if you have problems. I had NO such issues with my Droid. I was able to walk into a Verizon store to have a stolen/lost phone replaced, even if it costed me a little, and IMMEDIATELY... I was able to walk back into the store the NEXT DAY to replace the new Droid because I wasn't satisfied with the camera on the new replacement. I was able to do ALL of that within the same week. Good luck getting anything like that with an N900.

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My record speaks for itself. Read the articles.

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i had a big problem with nokia 'dont' care with my previous nokia mobiles. They were running a sybian OS though (i dont think it was caused most of the problems BUT it did to some.)
i did my research for a long time with the n900 and decided to give nokia one last try.
the major reason why i picked the n900 was that it was running maemo OS which i hoped it was better then sybian and i am very happy with it.
i have to say that i am happy with the construction of the phone itself also, with that weight behind it it feels like it is built with quality in mind.

as for the next mobile i really can not tell if i am going for a nokia next, maybe ill wait to see mego OS but that to me has an android feel to it. but i cantreally tell. im happy with my n900

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How come i do not have the problems you have? Do we have the same type of telephone? For me it would be closer to talk with Nokia face-to-face than Apple or Google for that matter. If you throw your phone into the wall and it breaks.. would Apple/Google replace that? So i could go to that store you had and proclaim that my phone was stolen and they will give me a new? Would that give me a Droid even though i didn't own one? Or if i own one.. get me an extra?

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The answer is depending on the hardware specs and OS spec. If it doesn't matched my demand or need then I won't get another NOKIA. Well that just me. I've moved on from being a fanboy to Nokia :) I'm going with specs

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I thought about getting the N8 when it comes, but the N8 will also be an "intermediate" device from Nokia running Symbian^3 instead of Symbian^4, and an upgrade to Symbian^4 is most likely to be "unofficial" by Nokia. MeeGo is lots of hot air, but it will never live up to it's promises. Maybe MeeGo will be OK on some purely Nokia/Intel devices in the future when they are 100% supported, but as an open source alternative - never.

Right now Sony Ericsson has the best deal by far. X10 mini pro, is the thing to get. The size of a phone (small that fits in your pockets) and more power than the N900, and 10x cooler.

Nokia has done too many mistakes. The N8XX had lots of promises, but was left dead by Nokia. The N900 was/is nice, but is left dead by Nokia. The N8 will also be left dead when Symbian^4 comes along that will have some freaky hardware requirements that excludes the N8 to be "officially" upgraded (just wait and see). Sony Ericsson also did lots of unbelievable mistakes 1-2 years ago, but they have really pulled themselves together. Sadly (or happily depending on your point of view), Android is one key element of the renewed Sony Ericsson, but the hardware is also extremely well designed with focus on the end user experience just as the Android OS. The Focus of MeeGo is OEM and Intel/Nokia hardware, not the end user experience, and this is bound to fail in the same manner that Maemo and Moblin failed.

Nokia will be back sooner or later with a "killer" like the N95, but until that happends, I will not purchase any more Nokia dead ends like I have done with the N800 and N900. Sony Ericsson has the best phone right now, and that is what I have ordered :)

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Be careful not to confuse a local minimum of a function for a global trend. Google has mercilessly driven Android in the last one year (and has even promised to ease up) and if not for the rising trend of Android handsets, those manufacturers would be cursing all right. Also, those other companies you praise are also just as keen on leaving you in the dirt (see HTC Hero) or force-feeding you upgrades that you might not want (iOS 4 on the iPhone 3G). So sure, you can switch away from Nokia, but it's really a hit-and-miss of what you'll get, depending on where in the business/technological cycle you buy in to a particular platform/vendor.

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Naw, I getcha--and I agree with the stuff you've put out there, on the whole. I'm just trying to point out why there's a lack of confidence on the face of it. You're smart and you know what's what--but you haven't truly shared in the experience until you've blown money on it and had to call for help or waited a month or two while your expensive phone disappears from your possession for all that time. So, confidence from your fellow N900'ers seems a bit strained. On the other hand, I can't say you don't understand the problems. You're clearly aware of them.

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I hope you like it but the screen is too small for me!

I liked the feel of the Sony Ericsson Vivaz pro but I think Symbian is wasted on it!

I also want a tiny handset in my collection and I think the pebble shaped Pre might be it.

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Of course my next phone will be another Nokia.

I´m very happy with Nokia phones and I had the first Symbian phone (Nokia 7650). After that, I bought Nokia 7610, Nokia N93 and Nokia N93i.

Today I have Nokia N900 and Nokia E71.

My plan is to replace the E71 to E72 and I´m also thinking in Nokia N8.

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First, I pointed out that I have a Droid. Not an Apple. But yes, I have insurance on the phone such that if I threw it against the wall, I can get it replaced immediately.. face to face.. at any VERIZON store. I got it replaced once already because it was lost/stolen. Even months later, that's covered. You pay extra--but it's worth it. I don't know why you keep saying Google when the handset is sold by Verizon and that IS the whole point of their insurance (in case it's lost/stolen or damaged). Google makes the OS, not the handset nor the store I walked into. Motorola makes the handset, but Verizon is the vendor that sells it and has provided me with excellent physical presence and customer service. I can't say Nokia has EVER provided any level of acceptable customer support so far for ANY of the products I've bought with their brand on them. Nokia doesn't sell the N900 in any kind of a vendor where there is insurance available and I can't even get Nokia to provide me with support themselves. That's part of the whole problem from soup to nuts. Nokia has no presence and no support. When you call them, it's a much more insulting and frustrating experience than I've ever had with any other vendor or manufacturer.

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To be honest I purposely struck a low blow because I didn't like his response. Not that I thought he was a crony.

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That is pretty normal.. I got about 500 meters from my home to the store i bought from.. in case i wanted to replace it or what ever. Insurances could be bought for any mark. It doesn't make the support for one mark better than the other. You get about the same deal depending from whom you buy the insurance. My nokia n900 is covered in my home insurance for example. If i'd like i could get a special from the store i bought it from. They tried to sell me one.

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Maybe, but there's also a nugget of truth to the fact that people might feel disconnected because of that fact. It's one thing to get a free unit as a developer--people are with you for that. It's another to get a free unit as a blogger writing about the consumer's experiences--people don't feel as connected with that type of blogger even when they're accurate.

Nope. Sorry, they don't sell N900's in any store out here where you can get any such replacement insurance. You can only find online vendors--nothing face-to-face where I could buy an N900.

Hell, when I bought my N800 a few years back at CompUSA, I spent the money on a 2-year replacement insurance. Then CompUSA went bankrupt and they all closed down. So much for that. Next, dealing with Nokia became an incredible hassle.

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Im 70% certain I'll be moving to Android for my next handset, if only so I can develop in a language I enjoy (Java), but I genuinely wish MeeGo a lot of success. I think if I could pick up a MeeGo handset cheaply I would give it a chance, as I would like to keep up with all the developers and projects I enjoyed learning about on here, I would have no interest at all in going back to a Nokia Symbian handset.

I also hope Nokia will do a discounted MeeGo handset scheme for all the active developers on here, similar as was done for the N900. Unfortunately for me I have the towering Karma total of 12, I believe it required 200 to be eligible last time, so I doubt I will be able to apply for it anyway :p

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You know, I think the N800 has the absolute minimum screen size with the pixel count it has. The N900 is too small to not feel cramped in web pages, yet the device itself is a brick. In my experience, I'd much rather use my netbook for web-related things (when I need the "real" internet). All the other stuff is has more than enough space on a X10 mini, and it is really more a matter of clever software design.

I will keep my N900 and install MeeGo on it, just to see how it works and evolves, since there is no point in selling it. But if it is anything like the netbook UX, it will be (and stay) a half way finished product with enough holes in it so it's not really usable as a stand alone single device.

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I think you would find this to have the killer dimensions:

http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2010/03/...-slider-phone/

Shame about the OS

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Unpossible... You have almost 600 thanks, that can't be 12 karma... Have you linked up your talk account for karma ?

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I have an N810 and I love it... but I want an Android phone. I also have a Nokia 3600 Slide, which is okay, it's pretty old though. I really like this community and will continue to use my tablet but I won't be buying a Nokia Phone unless they pump out some Android phones. I don't like how they close so much of the source, and this wayfinder thing for Maemo sucks now.

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Maybe, but what does it have to do with Nokia?

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A-ha! No I hadn't,, :o

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In my case.. i kno m gna buy a meego with 4g... as far as my n900 goes.. i hv it fr anothr few yrs fr sure .
:D

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Toyota makes great vehicles, so does BMW. I would buy either over a Chevy any day. What's your point?

Fact: Nokia released a device with software that was not finished. Period. It is missing features that anyone would expect from a smartphone. Period. They have bungled any sort of OVI support, from ovi services integration, to the ovi store. Full stop.

Don't quote me anything about it being a "step 4 of 5" device either, Nokia didn't put that anywhere on it's advertisements when it was trying to get people to drop $600 on a 4/5th complete device.

Don't try and say it's not a phone, it's a mobile computer, because if the N900 is a mobile computer, then so is every other high end smartphone which has more features and functionality. Three half-baked bugfix updates does not equate to the major OS upgrades that Android and iOS devices are seing.

The worst part is that they are fixing it, but if you want the fix you are expected to drop another $600+ to get it. Is it really worth the money when you could buy a Motorola (I still can't even believe I can use Motorola as an example of a company doing something right) and get major software updates? The Droid is getting it's 2.2 update this week, along with all the newer models. HTC is trickling out updates for their devices as we speak.

If Nokia wants the high end market they are going to have to at least match what the competition is doing. If not they will fall by the wayside as someone else takes the market lead.

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lol, follow this thread on the official Nokia forums with them promising OVI suite support and watch as the months goes by...:

http://discussions.europe.nokia.com/...00/td-p/576344

Get treated like rubbish

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People like you:
* Condone Nokia to mistreat its customers
* Treat genuine upset customer posts as irrelevant
* Have no perspective on the history of this situation
* Are probably not very open minded and/or selfish
* Can't spell

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yes...and its gonna be a maemo phone

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why wouln't I buy one ?

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not a chance got a good enough taste with the n900 i'm more likely to buy an intel meego than a nokia meego but more likely i'll be snuggling an android



btw side note intel also supports android there porting 2.2 thanks intel