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attila77 2010-07-30 10:18
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Tweak Flash Version
 
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Interesting. If I run it WITH sudo but WITHOUT run-standalone I lose the Fremantle theme and get nasty warnings in the console. Does anyone else have this or did I just hack my N900 beyond redemption (=ready to reflash).

humble 2010-07-30 10:24
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if i.. it hags... and wit this it works sudo /usr/bin/tweakflashver

up above
EDIT: Looks like its working to me (it looks like that because were runing it root... i think why. it dose the same with cute explore)

mece 2010-07-30 11:45
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Tweak Flash Version
 
@Attila77
problem is that run-standalone.sh is not in sudoers.

replacing the symlink /usr/bin/tweakflashver
with this script:
Code:
#!/bin/sh
run-standalone.sh /opt/maemo/usr/bin/tweakflashver
and the desktop file like this:
Code:
[Desktop Entry]
Encoding=UTF-8
Version=0.1
Type=Application
Name=Tweak Flash plugin version
Exec=sudo /usr/bin/tweakflashver
Icon=tweakflashver
X-HildonDesk-ShowInToolbar=true
X-Osso-Type=application/x-executable
should make everything work properly as root.

edit: lost a #

attila77 2010-07-31 21:58
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Tweak Flash Version
 
I uploaded an update that puts the app in the proper section (utilities) and contains mece's sudo startup trick (many thanks for the tip !) - let me know if this release fixes sudo/startup crash issues for you. Should appear in extras-devel in a couple of minutes.

pelago 2010-07-31 22:15
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Tweak Flash Version
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by attila77 (Post 768390)
To reiterate - this changes absolutely nothing in the functionality of the Flash plugin on your N900. It *only* changes the identification string. It is ONLY good for sloppy sites that throw 'you need to upgrade to Flash 10' in your face for no reason.
I wonder if it would be a good idea to rename this app "Fake Flash Version" or similar, so that it is more immediately descriptive to people who don't read more than the app title...?

attila77 2010-07-31 22:25
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English is (obviously :) ) not my native language so I find it a bit difficult to decide... but if there is a consensus that "Fake Flash Version" describes the functionality better, I don't mind changing it.

JonWW 2010-07-31 23:11
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Adjust, Tweak, Modify, Adapt, Fake, Switch, Falsify... all are good and discribe what is been done. Your choice of name "Tweak" told me what was been done, your app is now known with the name is has. I would leave it as is.

attila77 2010-08-01 19:21
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Forgot to add - would appreciate if someone came up with a good icon for it, the current one is a duplicate of FlashLauncher, and that one wasn’t all that descriptive in the first place.

JonWW 2010-08-01 19:40
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Found this on a google search, not sure on the copyright stuff. Looks cool though.
http://news.softpedia.com/newsImage/...dobe-AIR-2.jpg

http://news.softpedia.com/images/new...dobe-AIR-2.jpg

darrennewman@sky.com 2010-08-02 10:51
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Tweak Flash Version
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by attila77 (Post 769422)
Segfault/root complaints have gotten rare, so I guess it must be working now -> the Diablo version is not that far :)

PS. Can anyone tell me what the Chinook Flash version was ?
I just went on the flash website to find what version, and it lists it as LNX 9,0,48,0

I am running Diablo not Chinook.

Hope this helps.

festivalnut 2010-08-02 11:04
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Tweak Flash Version
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by pelago (Post 771688)
I wonder if it would be a good idea to rename this app "Fake Flash Version" or similar, so that it is more immediately descriptive to people who don't read more than the app title...?
dont stoop to the lowest common denominator. people who cant be bothered reading more than the app name should be happy that they're merely getting something slightly different than expected rather than a total nuke!

on that note i have considered making an app called "really cool app!!!" or "download this!!!" (they like exclamation marks these kinda people!!!) and filling the description with "this applications sole purpose is to completely and irrevocably brick your n900 upon installation, only reccommended if your last remaining use for your n900 is as a doorstop or projectile weapon." obviously o wouldn't upload a virus etc, just a hello world with "u are a complete spoon" or something,
just to see how many people will actually install it.

2disbetter 2010-08-02 11:39
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Tweak Flash Version
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by festivalnut (Post 772926)
dont stoop to the lowest common denominator. people who cant be bothered reading more than the app name should be happy that they're merely getting something slightly different than expected rather than a total nuke!

on that note i have considered making an app called "really cool app!!!" or "download this!!!" (they like exclamation marks these kinda people!!!) and filling the description with "this applications sole purpose is to completely and irrevocably brick your n900 upon installation, only reccommended if your last remaining use for your n900 is as a doorstop or projectile weapon." obviously o wouldn't upload a virus etc, just a hello world with "u are a complete spoon" or something,
just to see how many people will actually install it.
You sir, have made my day.

2d

Killahgold 2010-08-02 19:41
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Quote:
Originally Posted by festivalnut (Post 772926)
dont stoop to the lowest common denominator. people who cant be bothered reading more than the app name should be happy that they're merely getting something slightly different than expected rather than a total nuke!

on that note i have considered making an app called "really cool app!!!" or "download this!!!" (they like exclamation marks these kinda people!!!) and filling the description with "this applications sole purpose is to completely and irrevocably brick your n900 upon installation, only reccommended if your last remaining use for your n900 is as a doorstop or projectile weapon." obviously o wouldn't upload a virus etc, just a hello world with "u are a complete spoon" or something,
just to see how many people will actually install it.
This would be sweet!!!! When will it be available?:D

festivalnut 2010-08-02 20:01
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Tweak Flash Version
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Killahgold (Post 773429)
This would be sweet!!!! When will it be available?:D
hahaha. should i sign u up as a beta tester when i do?

devu 2010-08-02 20:15
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Tweak Flash Version
 
Attila77 WHAT HAVE YOU DONE :P

Just keep in mind all the flash websites that trying internally recognize your TRUE flash player version will fail (included my Flaemo project that I am still working on and Device manager is the most important part of it in order to recognize your device and launch proper version)

You could use Attila77 Flash Launcher and set swf file as source and you could avoid invalid HTML tag that required 10 even if doesn't. So list of the websites you can see using that and you couldn't before using Flash Launcher or just calling file.swf is presented below:














:D

Attila77 you are owe me Flaemo launcher :P

blipnl 2010-08-03 19:01
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Hey, could anyone tell me the risk of using this?
I know about extras-devel and how it can brick xD but reading about how it backs up the old version, I am thinking about giving it a try.

If unsuccesfull or very unstable, how to restore to original flash settings?

Ty in advance, amazing project!

attila77 2010-08-03 20:53
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It’s fairly brick-proof, and it really tries to double-check everything before committing to touching system files. You can always return to the original version by choosing it from the available versions option.

PS If you wait a few hours, you’ll get a version that has real restore built-in.

unletom 2010-08-03 22:50
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exactly what i needed but where do i download

flareup 2010-08-04 08:39
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Tweak Flash Version
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by attila77 (Post 774723)
It’s fairly brick-proof, and it really tries to double-check everything before committing to touching system files. You can always return to the original version by choosing it from the available versions option.

PS If you wait a few hours, you’ll get a version that has real restore built-in.
it all sounds brilliant.

now where's that N8xx version? ;)

ossipena 2010-08-04 08:43
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Tweak Flash Version
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by attila77 (Post 770116)
Interesting. If I run it WITH sudo but WITHOUT run-standalone I lose the Fremantle theme and get nasty warnings in the console. Does anyone else have this or did I just hack my N900 beyond redemption (=ready to reflash).
isn't this 110% how things should be?

attila77 2010-08-04 08:48
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It's in extras-testing currently and is expected to land in extras in about 10 days.

attila77 2010-08-04 08:56
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ossipena (Post 775172)
isn't this 110% how things should be?
Which part ? :) I would think that widget styling should not be user dependent.

attila77 2010-08-05 10:23
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Just to formalize - if you tested the latest tweakflashver you can leave QA feedback here:

http://maemo.org/packages/package_in...er/0.3-maemo0/

ossipena 2010-08-05 10:43
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Tweak Flash Version
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by attila77 (Post 775182)
Which part ? :) I would think that widget styling should not be user dependent.
afaik widget styling is normal user dependent. that just is the way it is. (read: I don't know better about reasons why etc..)

attila77 2010-08-05 11:12
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Tweak Flash Version
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by flareup (Post 775169)
now where's that N8xx version? ;)
A small followup on this - there is slight issue that the N8xx Flash has a shorter version string so it's more difficult to fit in the later version numbers. It's not a showstopper though, it's just we can't use the same version strings.

Bec 2010-08-05 18:38
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This ia a good initiative, but unfortunately, today I tried (first flash based thing that I could think of) the southpark site and the shows didn't load.

I'm afraid nokia needs to seriously consider if it will support N900 or not. I'm not willing to start all over again with there I was last winter - a fresh OS with almost no apps, nor am I willing to wait for a flimsy community support based Meego.

If there's no way of somehow bringing/dumping (or even officially supporting) flash from a meego image on the N900, N900 will be my last Nokia/meego/symbian/or anything else spawned by nokia ever.

I sure hope someone at nokia realizes the disappointment they're causing or I'll have to place nokia, (together with sony) on my "never buy anything from them again" list.

attila77 2010-08-05 21:44
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Tweak Flash Version
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bec (Post 776887)
This ia a good initiative, but unfortunately, today I tried (first flash based thing that I could think of) the southpark site and the shows didn't load.
As mentioned a few times (and in fact in the About of the app itself) it is not a Flash 10.x upgrade replacement, nor does it try to be. It is a hack to avoid WRONG site requirements.

Quote:
If there's no way of somehow bringing/dumping (or even officially supporting) flash from a meego image on the N900, N900 will be my last Nokia/meego/symbian/or anything else spawned by nokia ever.
You mean from Harmattan. MeeGo images (as run by the Linux Foundation, meego.com, etc) do not (and will not) include Flash.

flareup 2010-08-06 13:42
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Tweak Flash Version
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by attila77 (Post 776452)
A small followup on this - there is slight issue that the N8xx Flash has a shorter version string so it's more difficult to fit in the later version numbers. It's not a showstopper though, it's just we can't use the same version strings.
thanks for the updates on progress, realy apprecitate it and look forward to utilsing on n800.

will this problem affect functionality?

gabby131 2010-08-06 19:13
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hi!

got a small problem last night while streaming on youtube,

as the video loads after 30 secs, the browser (micro B) keeps refreshing, it keeps doing it that its impossible for me to finish watching a 3 min video.

i have not tried Tweak Flasher yet and i do not claim that the problem is because of tweak Flash.

just cant find a specific thread (or right thread) to post this.

NOTE: a reboot fixed the problem, i just wonder why this happened for the 2nd time to me.

attila77 2010-08-06 21:12
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Quote:
Originally Posted by flareup (Post 777808)
thanks for the updates on progress, realy apprecitate it and look forward to utilsing on n800.

will this problem affect functionality?
No, but I don't think version tweaking will be overly productive on Diablo, because the chances of sites actually using something that IS too advanced for the plugin are a lot higher than with Fremantle. Will still make a version as it is fairly easy to do it, but... have realistic expectations :)

imperiallight 2010-08-06 21:22
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Just posting this to gain Atilla's attention if he's interested or knows who might be:


PipoXtreme 2010-08-08 09:19
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the last note in the first post works smooth... great work !!! Youtube video works great with 1000 CPU Clock...

vivek5000 2010-08-10 07:16
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I can find this application tweakflashver anywhere. please help me from where I can download this app ?

attila77 2010-08-10 07:25
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It is available from extras-testing today, or in extras in about 5 days.

icebox 2010-08-10 17:11
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Tweak Flash Version
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by attila77 (Post 778241)
No, but I don't think version tweaking will be overly productive on Diablo, because the chances of sites actually using something that IS too advanced for the plugin are a lot higher than with Fremantle. Will still make a version as it is fairly easy to do it, but... have realistic expectations :)
Thank you. I do think it will be productive for diablo users. At least those who understand what to expect. For example I used to watch a local news tv station in flash on my tablet. Low quality stream so it works wonderfully. One day it told me to upgrade flash. I checked on my desktop - they use the same player, same stream, same quality same everything. Someone felt smart to add a check before loading the page.

Anyways if us n800 users don't understand what low expectations are than I don't know who does.

Thank you again for your work. Looking forward to being your diablo guinea pig.

flareup 2010-08-11 17:45
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Quote:
Originally Posted by icebox (Post 781821)

Anyways if us n800 users don't understand what low expectations are than I don't know who does.
:)

yeah, it'll breathe some more life into it and, limited or not, anything that gives me a reason to use my n800 is a good thing!

attila77 2010-08-14 11:27
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Tweak Flash Version
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by attila77 (Post 781202)
It is available from extras-testing today, or in extras in about 5 days.
Good news, everyone, TweakFlashVer has reached Extras. Diablo release for extras-devel imminent.

Raymodise 2010-08-14 11:44
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how and where do i get this Tweak flash version, i just dont understand what i have to do. my facebook videos do not load, they need the latest version of flash player, will tweak solve my problem?

attila77 2010-08-14 11:52
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The thing is, facebook does not need the latest flash, it intentionally shuts you out, even though all the necessary functionality is there. This app works around that.

The app should be avaiable through the Application Manager (note it has just been promoted, so depending on caches, etc it might take a few minutes/hours before everybody sees it around the globe).

Start it, pick the recommended version of Flash and tap "change". That's all there is to it.

MSHAH 2010-08-17 00:33
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im getting an "unable to create backup" error, what should i do to fix this? any ideas?


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