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Think Of converting iphone apps to n900 Apps
Hello GUyzz i m thing is that possible to convert iphone apps to n900 Linux OS apps. well i have never created an app of n900 but i wonder if anyone could dooo soo. if it could be possible hw great it would beee. iPhone app store & cydia has Thousand's of apps.if someone could convert or make similar apps it willl bee funn.Then new world of apps for n900 would be started ........ !!!!!!!!
if anyone can create app for n900 & iphone pls pls reply !!!!!!! Thanx Regards Sarthak |
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the ONLY thing i'll ever consider taking from an iphone is the music app(but even then, using itunes?!), all else, well except for some nice games, hmmm nothing :)
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If it was at all possible someone would have done it by now, if u want iphone apps then buy an iphone, n900 is a completely different animal.
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I asked the same question months ago on this forum. Someone told me its like trying to make toast on your washmaschine.
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All I can say is that I don't -want- iphone apps.
Mainly because they are all closed source. The whole reason to -have- a N900 is because most of the os, and almost all the apps are open-source and can be FIXED if they break, or the developer abandons them, or even if you want something the developer won't add/change. As it is, I see far more usable tools than the iphone has apps, and most of ours are free! |
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What is it that you want to do?
If it is one of the billions and billions of specific iPhone apps :rolleyes: that you want to run on the N900 then there is a good chance that its task was conceptualized or mobile developed on an earlier device running Maemo, Symbian, or even a plain ol' Java J2ME run time environment. If it was though, one thing is for sure. It would never look as pretty as it does on an iPhone. Another thing that is also for sure is that on the iPhone this app would only be capable of running that one particular task. If it continued to develop on Maemo at least, it pro'ly includes other related tasks or may be just another thing that a completely unrelated Maemo app does. Dig? BTW, it would not surprise me if you find my response hard to understand. I found the original post in this thread hard to understand as well and realize we may not have the same native tongue. :) |
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I do not see any reasons to port ANY iPhone app (or ANY Android app) to Maemo/MeeGoo. Why would one want such apps that are bloated with ads, doing exactly one thing and doing it bad(usually) to be ported to an Open Sourced platform....
Instead Its much better if someone does try porting the thousands of open source apps for *nix to the specifics of N900... That would worth the efforts.... |
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There's no need to really port, just recompile the other *nix apps if there is a need for it.
I think the people against iPhone or Android apps are overlooking one key thing... people want those apps because they don't quite exactly exist fully in the *nix world. Not 100%, not in the way that doesn't require the end-user to jump through a few hoops. And ultimately... it doesn't exist natively quite yet. That is the main reason why people are looking at ports. There are no real racing games - Tux Race does not count - and there are other genres that are wholly lacking. And before it's said, emulation is an option, but not always one that satisfies an users want to play a modern game, not a game from 1996 in 2010 on a 2009 device. |
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On the other hand talking about games in the *nix world... hehe not much of them anyway (if we mean native ones) and i guess most of the phone users need games... And about recompiling of existent *nix apps ... this usually is not enough because N900 has a lot of specifics like the D-bus services and calls, UI etc etc... that has to be ported (probably the word "port" is not quite exact in this case but anyway i guess you know what i mean)... |
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Yeah, I get what you mean. But the sheer amount of folks that shun "there's a need for more apps" seem to knee-jerk their way to "Oh, the iPhone has only fart apps..." when honestly, I've owned an iPhone in one way or another for 3 years... no fart apps have ever crossed my path/phone.
The fact that people have Python, SSH, VPN, a multitude of editors, et al doesn't mean there's no room for actual games, entertainment, (quick to lock) geo-location aware apps. Hell, there's no real 3D engines like Unity3D, no free SMS apps like Gogii textPlus or TextFree... there's a whole slew of "holes" in the app side that would extend the usability of the N900. Yet... folks are quicker to say "there's no need" or "we don't need that..." when honestly they're talking about mainly themselves. That level of egocentric nature should not be acceptable. |
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There is a pretty good case for single-workflow (not single task) mobile app on smartphones. Due to limited everything (screen, ram, cpu, etc) it may be inconvenient to take your data thru a bunch of different apps to get a single workflow done. Here's an example:
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I agreed more with what you said pre-edit than post ;)
Smaller words to digest. |
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Yeah @gerbick you are right about the 'there's a whole slew of "holes" '... the problem is that N900 needs a kinda specific coding for covering those "holes"... 'cause as you know the *nix support considering different apps is not a smartphone oriented... Most of the OSC developers work on apps for the desktop/server environment... those that do smth on N900, need to have it themselves and need to have time to do it. So i admire all the devs here on maemo for their work...
And as for the egocentric users and attitude... i do not think this is of any importance to the evolution of the OSC development... It is really a "general need" - "lack of support" ratio that drives the development in the *nix world.... |
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No excuses. If the platform is powerful enough to support an administrator's work, thus fulfill the "Linux computer in your pocket"... it should also be able to expand to other, typically overlooked avenues too.
The parts aren't there though. And the fact that a year after announcement, they're still lacking... that's alarming. |
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@gerbick: lol noted.
It's not exactly 'ignorance' per se (or is it?).... anyway I'm kind of shocked really to see those kind of ignorant answers spewed by so called 'hackers' which are essentially 'digital explorers'. They don't know what they're missing. They're basing their current elitist stances on inaccurate information. |
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Yeah it will... in time it will expand... we just need to have patience so the folks working on Meego (not the one in the minds of Nokia) do their jobs... :)
And as for Nokia... I have stopped expecting them to do anything good for the *nix world long ago... |
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I'm over-simplifying things quite a bit. But as it stands, the expansion of apps is minor compared between generations if you were casually looking only at the surface. Underneath the surface... hell yeah. Tons of growth. But you'd actually have to take the time to see that. I did. Most people will not. Again, the level of certain apps, there are still way too many holes; thus this thread and many like it. |
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Speaking as a dev with no iPhone experience, telling us what you actually want is better than saying you want all the millions of apps available on the iOS app store. Specifics please :) Then maybe we could work something out. I'm not against the idea at all for creating new apps that exist on the iPhone or Android platforms.b I've just not seen anything in my few minutes of google searches that seems appealing. Games aside, I don't think most of us have the time or experience to develop the quality of games those platforms have. but useful utilities for sure.
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Sometimes even I lose patience waiting for diff things to be done/fixed... As for the threads... i do not think anyone should blame the authors or the ppl responding to them for being low level.... :) It's a forum afterall, not a highly dedicated tech talk :D |
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What would be useful to the users of the N900/Maemo whether developers or not. I'm sure I'm not the only one that is open to ideas. Pretty much anything toys,utilities etc. Just not full blown 3D games as I don't have the time or experience to do something so large.
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@tswindell,
I think there is a general problem in the dev world of OSS... And it is the lack of good team work... There are a lot of devs that start their own app that has similar functionality to another already existent OSS app... and thus they do go all the way of "reinventing the hot water" from the beginning... Examples are everywhere even on N900... Don't you think it will be much more efficient and fast if all the devs working on apps with similar functionality gather into one team, take one of those apps that is at the most advanced stage of development and concentrate all their efforts in making this one app the best among the other apps? How do you think pidgin, gimp etc projects became so popular and full featured(well almost full featured infact)? Anyway this way of working is a kinda utopia... Even devs are people with their vanity, high self esteem etc etc... things that do not quite help the OSS idea :) |
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I try not to write something that others' are doing. But choice is good and if we can't work together well, at lease we can learn and draw inspiration from them :)
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Yeah i know how hard it is to work on a code done by others.... but it is not impossible....
Otherwise we end up with five "map" applications for N900 and none of them really doing its job correctly.... :D And a side effect is that the needs for apps doing a certain task are not countless... EDIT: This thread has gone totally offtopic... not without my "help"... so i apologize the author... |
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Sure, so, must have app ideas from either iOS or Android please :)
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Ok here is an idea (not an iOS or Android anyway):
An app for adding a background sound (or a sound effect) while in a call, so the other party hears that background sound/effect + the callers voice. This way it will seem as if the caller is in a park/crowded room etc... This feature is present in some of the Privileg phones (an unknown brand with some own created OS). |
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What I was trying to determine was the OP's "need". Was it information that a particular app provides or a was it the way the iPhone or Android presented this information that the OP desired. |
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Now go look at the recorder app for Maemo 5. Underneath, really good stuff, but that thing shouldn't be allowed to go out in public. But there it was from day one in extras, just a carryover from Maemo 4 with the added cool sharing enhancement. Compare that to the simple little iOS recorder app that is immediately recognizable for what it is. When recording, the VU meter lets you know the mic is working, and it has that cute little red dot to caution that you may be too close to the mic. Instead of asking, "Is this thing working?," the user simply giggles and backs off. Apple's thoughtfulness and pride get confused with vanity too often. Nokia doesn't seem to suffer from that problem. [leaving the reservation]Why does Nokia create this chasm between us and them? Supplying an SDK is not enough. The recorder app is a great example of where Nokia could have worked with that developer to make it seem more integral with Fremantle. Instead, they close source the Media Player? Corporate FOSS is different than hobby FOSS. Duh. And currently Nokia is doing it wrong. I recreated the front end to the Media Player in less than two pages of code. What the f*ck is their point? I don't need more than one media player, yet I want full system integration. I could probably beg, borrow and steal to make that happen, but Nokia creates apathy for no good reason. When they do this, devs like me just turn our attention to the million other things that interest us. At the moment, Nokia doesn't know exactly where their responsibility should begin and end. If Nokia could get their FOSS sh*t together, the OP might have less of an issue.[/leaving the reservation] |
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However I'm still not sure what the OP wants so I'll respond to your post because at this point, it is much more interesting. :) If the stuff was pretty then you wouldn't mind it being closed. Or is it: If they are going to release such butt fugly components that are just begging for lipstick, why close it? I'm thinking the second statement is closer to your theme and to that I'll add... Especially when the user base has shown that they have the skills and talent to enhance the front end. I never got that either. :confused: Mer seemed like it could only get so far and examples of this kind of thinking by Nokia may be a reason why. Part of this thinking may be because Nokia went into this without a clue. At the time, no one else had a clue either. Where I was going is that because Nokia provided the hardware, for good or ill, others learned. In Apple and Googles case, they had very defined goals and the user experience was paramount. That may be because of what they learned watching user needs and ultimately user expectations develop within the 770, then N800 community that grew around those devices. There was nothing to compare to them other then the bloated, heavy, and very expensive OQO at the time. There were other PDA's though, and some like the HP iPaq's had many of the same connectivity options. But none of them could walk and chew gum at the same time. The NIT's could but they usually left the house with their shoes untied, wearing mismatched socks, and no clue that these things would sometimes mean more to an average user then how high it jumped or how fast it ran. :cool: It is neat to hear things like "what an average user expects" knowing that only three years ago the "average" user didn't expect much. Until OS2008 showed that a powerful mobile device could stay connected and run more than 2 or 3 hours without a charge, the market didn't expect one to. |
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Woops, my bad. I didn't mean to imply the Media Player was ugly. What I meant is actually a long story that I can sum up in a short skit:
Nokia: "Hey, did you know we have multi-media plugins?" daperl: "Multi-media plugins! That's totally awesome! I love me some multi-media plugins! Check out my customized functionality changes. Whutta ya think!?" Attachment 12669 Nokia: "Uh, you can't do that." daperl: "No? Total bummer, dude." [fade to black] THE END |
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I would like the offical F1 app on the n900 if I could have that I would be happy but sadly it wont ever happen
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@OP: if you want good apps sell your N900 asap and get an iPhone 4 or HTC Desire, both ABSOLUTELY **** on N900
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