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-   -   What is the future for the n900 from now? meego or no updates or nothing? (https://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=59716)

danramos 2010-08-05 08:45
Re: What is the future for the n900 from now? meego or no updates or nothing?
 
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Originally Posted by cjp (Post 776310)
Well the way I see it is, I'm really enjoying the N900 as it is. So I guess my N900 has very many years on it. It works for me, why should it stop doing that in the future? :)
My N800 hasn't stopped working either! ...of course, it also hasn't been getting any updates (fixes, security, etc.) either. I'm sure your N900 will continue not getting those for years, too.

THE STAGNATION CHAA-CHAA-CHAA! Come on, you know the dance! We've done it before!

Chrome 2010-08-05 08:58
Re: What is the future for the n900 from now? meego or no updates or nothing?
 
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Originally Posted by Stskeeps (Post 775709)
By MeeGo I mean meego.com, not Maemo 6.
What about Maemo6/Harmattan?

They both share same MeeGo handsets core and touch framework IIRC, so the same drivers should work for both Harmattan and MeeGo(.com) right?

If so, will be able to run Harmattan's UI (that got leaked a few days ago) on N900?

johnel 2010-08-05 09:11
Re: What is the future for the n900 from now? meego or no updates or nothing?
 
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Originally Posted by Chrome (Post 776332)
What about Maemo6/Harmattan?

They both share same MeeGo handsets core and touch framework IIRC, so the same drivers should work for both Harmattan and MeeGo(.com) right?

If so, will be able to run Harmattan's UI (that got leaked a few days ago) on N900?
I think Harmattan has changed to become a "compatibility layer" to run maemo stuff on meego?

javispedro 2010-08-05 11:30
Re: What is the future for the n900 from now? meego or no updates or nothing?
 
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Originally Posted by daperl (Post 775955)
Are you saying I can solve this inside something like an xorg.conf file?
I'm saying otherwise; that it's not "only" an issue of enabling/disabling "vsync", which you can already do with a single call to the EGL library.

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Originally Posted by daperl (Post 775955)
I'm trying to push the envelope, so I thought if I do things like disable double-buffering in GTK widgets, for example, I can avoid a performance hit. See what I mean? I'm a little lost. Please help this ignorant fool.
Via a remote shell session, stop hildon-desktop (there will be no titlebar, close button, launcher button, ...) then try to open your favorite tearing Gtk+ app. The SGX is no longer involved in the entire process, in fact there's no closed driver involved AT ALL, but tearing still occurs.

attila77 2010-08-05 11:43
Re: What is the future for the n900 from now? meego or no updates or nothing?
 
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Originally Posted by Chrome (Post 776332)
They both share same MeeGo handsets core and touch framework IIRC, so the same drivers should work for both Harmattan and MeeGo(.com) right?
No, the lower you get system-wise, the larger the differences. They "share" the UI/API, but not kernel/packaging/etc.

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If so, will be able to run Harmattan's UI (that got leaked a few days ago) on N900?
That would be this project.

fatalsaint 2010-08-05 14:01
Re: What is the future for the n900 from now? meego or no updates or nothing?
 
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Originally Posted by johnel (Post 776343)
I think Harmattan has changed to become a "compatibility layer" to run maemo stuff on meego?
I think that's a bit backwards.. Harmattan will be Maemo done in such a way as to allow MeeGo stuff to run on it.

But, by nature of being compatible, most things written for one should work on the other either way... it will just need to be re-packaged.

abill_uk 2010-08-05 18:12
Re: What is the future for the n900 from now? meego or no updates or nothing?
 
Now it seems nothing will come out of Nokia on the future of the N900 for either Maemo or Meego so now it really is looking like it is down to this community to upgrade it's os, and without the full drivers from Nokia! what a daunting task.

Oh well that says it all really and as for this community...... it will most probably move on to the next device and forget this one simply because that is what Nokia want to happen it seems.

droll 2010-08-05 18:35
Re: What is the future for the n900 from now? meego or no updates or nothing?
 
isnt meego multitouch enabled? won't the n900 fail this requirement?

the market is the best judge of a company's performance and right now, nokia seems to be bearing the fruit of its own destruction.

abill_uk 2010-08-05 18:48
Re: What is the future for the n900 from now? meego or no updates or nothing?
 
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Originally Posted by droll (Post 776879)
isnt meego multitouch enabled? won't the n900 fail this requirement?

the market is the best judge of a company's performance and right now, nokia seems to be bearing the fruit of its own destruction.
Yes maybe but Nokia as a company will no way fail to that extent just because of a failure on the N900, if anything we are now witnessing a new era and change in mobile fone technology and as sad as it may look for us, we now have to figure out the best way forward for the os of our device and i must say here is just about the best place on earth to get results in that field !.

abill_uk 2010-08-05 18:56
Re: What is the future for the n900 from now? meego or no updates or nothing?
 
Meego incidently is capable of driving any device but it does require personalisation for this device as it will do as mobile technology progresses for all future meego devices.

The problem is Nokia dont seem to want to give the N900 Meego and that IS a big problem for us considering some of the drivers are not open source.


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