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Bijiont 2010-08-04 07:22
Re: What is the future for the n900 from now? meego or no updates or nothing?
 
I have to agree with crown77 on this. . .

I enjoy my N900 and have fun using it everyday however with the looming fact that Nokia has made it very clear they won't support on the Meego platform is well crap.

Where does the company responsibility (Nokia) end on a product regardless of what it is? For most companies it's never unless they give an upgrade path or alternative for older hardware/software. Crown77's example was a wonderful one and is very true ( I also work in IT ). If we get a new hard drive or computer componet and it fails we RMA it right? Well if that product is no longer available what do they do with that RMA. . . exactly they upgrade it to what is comparable.

If Nokia is going to drop a product like the N900 then they should at the very least allow us to "trade in" + a little extra cash depending on condition for the comparable Meego device. No where on their site or phone service does it state "this is a development device".

Again, not regretting my purchase of the N900 but it does leave a fowl taste of hearing from Nokia that your pretty much on your own.

maxximuscool 2010-08-04 07:42
Re: What is the future for the n900 from now? meego or no updates or nothing?
 
Oh well we all know this from the beginning that Nokia N900 will only be a toy-boy. Nokia gave birth to N900 then left it in the hospital in the care of the community nurses. Then after 9 long months N900 became a little mature but still got a bit of mental illness that it keeps lagging out after staying up for a few days. Nokia then readopted N900 as one of their children then after find out the faults with N900 and Nokia failed him from MeeGo University; Nokia took him for a ride to a quiet church area and then abandoned it again and hoping that the kind and caring priests inside the chapel Maemo.org community will look after him and teach him to be a better device one day.

At the end N900 meet the Optimis PRIME and become an AutoBOT robot. Transformer theme song!!

FIN!

xuggs 2010-08-04 07:46
Re: What is the future for the n900 from now? meego or no updates or nothing?
 
WTF is a development device. Sorry but thats not how it is advertised. I would really love to see a poster/advert anywhere where it says this is a development/experminental device. You can't really sell that in a retail store where a consumer with absolutely no idea walks in unless stated.

I am pretty capable of owning a device and know exactly what I am getting into before buying it but that won't hold true for every harry out there.

Having said that.. I love my N900 and it's not going anywhere.. my jeans pocket is where home is!

lucas777 2010-08-04 07:49
Re: What is the future for the n900 from now? meego or no updates or nothing?
 
Agree with alot of the posts on here. I for one dont give 2 shits about nokia. What i care about is this Forum and the help it gives me. I wouldnt have brought the ph if this community didnt exist simple as that. As i am a new Linux user i need this forum so well done to everyone here for keeping it alive

slender 2010-08-04 07:52
Re: What is the future for the n900 from now? meego or no updates or nothing?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by crown77 (Post 775103)
@ossipena i still have the bug when i get a call and the phone was locked before then the call comes up, but before i cant accept it the screen wents locked and dark again. In Fact i lose the Call. I was looking at the PR1.2 Changelog the Bug shall be fixed but it isnt for me.
Please remember that it could be just you and 1000 other owners but still there is huge amount users who do not suffer from that bug.

I do understand that people get nervous when their device doesn't work as they want but on the other hand they should realize that they are not holding ordinary just "phone" device but computer. I have seen too many "letīs experiment" users here who after while (sjhould) realize that what they are doing with n900 is beyond their own skills (overclocking, testing&devel) and end up yelling here that this device is broken.

I would say that 80-90% of problems could be fixed with complete flash and user selfban to devel and extras and also little common sense on what they try to do with this device.

But still there is bugs and there will be but please remember that those bugs do not always touch all users. And some "off course should be fixed" bugs actually can be bugs that some people regard as features and some people do not even care.

btw. have you installed PR 1.2?

abubakar 2010-08-04 07:59
Re: What is the future for the n900 from now? meego or no updates or nothing?
 
some of you guys saying you want a stamp like thing from nokia representing support from it for n900 makes me go back and question the purpose of SDKs. There shud be none right, cuz the company releasing the hardware should own everything and guarantee the support of every uniqu capability that device should have! Damn.

SDKs exist to make things possible that no company can achieve alone. This n900 has a community support and far superior technologies to develope software for. Everyone shud be thanking they got such an open and totally extensible piece of software and hardware. Gosh we are never happy.
I imagine using n900 for a long time even when i have another cool hardware to use as a phone. I dont know how many companies can do a thing like n900. Kudos to Nokia.

crown77 2010-08-04 08:06
Re: What is the future for the n900 from now? meego or no updates or nothing?
 
@slender of course i have installed PR1.2 i waited for this mainly about the described bug. I can live with a lot of Bugs but i used the n900 as my mobile Phone at this time and simply lost Calls. I have another Phone now becouse i need a working one just to get my calls..

attila77 2010-08-04 08:10
Re: What is the future for the n900 from now? meego or no updates or nothing?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Forphucsake (Post 774991)
Show us what you see then. Official proof of PR1.3?
What do you take as 'official proof' ? Nokia does not publish PR release dates, so its existence is as official as PR1.2 or PR1.1 was prior to releasing. There needs to be a firmware(s) that delivers QtMobility, the Web Runtime, and maybe even Qt4.7. Technically, it would be best if we could get these WITHOUT firmware upgrades, but users tend to have tunnel vision to features delivered outside of them.

As for lack of lack of official MeeGo support, I think most people are not aware what exactly has been announced there, or in general what MeeGo means, though that can be IMHO mostly attributed to the confusing nomenclature.

Bijiont 2010-08-04 08:20
Re: What is the future for the n900 from now? meego or no updates or nothing?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by abubakar (Post 775135)
some of you guys saying you want a stamp like thing from nokia representing support from it for n900 makes me go back and question the purpose of SDKs. There shud be none right, cuz the company releasing the hardware should own everything and guarantee the support of every uniqu capability that device should have! Damn.

SDKs exist to make things possible that no company can achieve alone. This n900 has a community support and far superior technologies to develope software for. Everyone shud be thanking they got such an open and totally extensible piece of software and hardware. Gosh we are never happy.
I imagine using n900 for a long time even when i have another cool hardware to use as a phone. I dont know how many companies can do a thing like n900. Kudos to Nokia.
Most companies offer SDK's that is nothing new however when it's stated there will be no future support it then comes down to the community which sorry only lasts so long. I am not saying anything bad about the community, we have a great number of developers however in just the hands of the community it's only a matter of time before support drops off.

Sure we will probably see a hack version of Meego or who knows what else but again it then falls to the community and those willing to keep with the device. This isn't just about the N900 but a lot of devices. Unless the company is willing to place some effort buyers will decline for a product with short shelf life ( Yes I know everything these days have a short life ), just the SDK doesn't cut it to me.

Horrible example to bring up but only one I can think of atm. iPhone 3GS old phone yet still able to upgrade to the latest and greatest iOS. Yes they started cutting official support to their much older devices but in the example of the N900 it's not that old. To me if Nokia simply said "We will offer an upgrade from Maemo5 on the N900 to Meego" I bet almost everyone would drop these threads.

abill_uk 2010-08-04 08:24
Re: What is the future for the n900 from now? meego or no updates or nothing?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by techngro (Post 775012)
Here's th real deal on the N900.

We all ran out and spent 400-500 bucks cause the device looked awesome. About 80 percent of us realized how crappy the OS was within a few days and started clamoring for an upgrade. We waited with baited breath until Nokia announced PR 1.2, and we were hopeful for a while.

Then PR 1.2 came out. And not only was it NOT the answer we were looking for, Nokia let us know that it was gonna ditch Maemo and move to Meego. That would have been fine except they also said that the N900 would not be supported. Great...

So while the world passes us by with new iPhones, Blackberries, and more Android phones than I can shake a stick at, Nokia continues to treat us like dog crap and expect us to come back for more.

I for one, however, know when i've had enough. I am looking forward to WP7. God, I am sooooo looking forward to WP7. And if that turns out to be a bust (Lord knows Ballmer doesn't have the best track record), I'll just head to Android.

So, to answer your question, what is the future for the N900? The future is an ever-decreasing price as they pile up on Ebay, and a bunch of consumers who will never buy another Nokia product again.

Let the wild Fanboy rumpus begin!!!!
I must say this post says it all and is so so so true of what people must be thinking now after the letdown from Nokia.

I am completely ignoring the trolling comments as anyone with half a brain will relaise there is much interest in knowing just what will happen as far as Nokia and the empty promises they made to us all.

Nitdroid is not the answer as it is an emulation and not a true OS in it's own right but also Steve has done an excellent job bless him and needs a lot of praise for his and his now team efforts.

Quit the stupid trolling accusations please they are just not needed and really ARE out of place on this thread.... thankyou.

OK so now we are left with the the question and does need some answers preferably from NOKIA .... WHAT IS THE FUTURE IF ANY FOR THE N900.


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