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Re: BYE BYE N900 - Sad day Nokia!

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Originally Posted by Laughing Man (Post 782318)

Not really. You only know of this community because.

a) You own a maemo device
b) You were considering a maemo device

c) because I read about it in engadget or gizmodo or slashgear or ... I don't remember. But device came in without any reference to this community.

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Most people buying Nokia phones out there are buying dumbphones and Symbian phones.

... but listen to other people stories and read about it in some news sites.

Re: BYE BYE N900 - Sad day Nokia!

So you came to this community because of an Engadget, Gizmodo, Slashgear,etc.. article and you were considering a maemo device.

My point is that if you want to cause a significant dent in Nokia you need to get news of Nokia's stunts on the Engadget, Gizmodo, Slashgear level. A slow trickle of unsatisfied users coming here and then coming out will eventually wear down Nokia but by then you'll be an old man.

Edit: And Nokia will already have your money.

Re: BYE BYE N900 - Sad day Nokia!

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Originally Posted by JulmaHerra (Post 781583)

Yep. An announcement. Not final MeeGo product. N900 has something like one year before there will be a MeeGo device. It was announced in September 2009 and shipped in November. So, this rant about 6 months is not that fair IMO. If Nokia decided to roll out official MeeGo support for N900, everybody would have a different tone. For some reason, they opted not to do it which is about only rant I have against Nokia in this MeeGo-issue. But still, I bought my device fully aware of it's limitations and knowing it was an early adopter device which would be replaced by something new rather sooner than later. I never buy anything based on just an assumption that manufacturer would later deliver something that it has not explicitly promised. Not from Nokia, not from any other manufacturer.

It is a fair comment although. Maemo died that very day when Meego was announced ... no more Maemo after that, marginal support to no support here on in. Focus has completely turned to Meego, and their are bugs and issues already being labeled as "WONT FIX", and the kicker was no Meego official support for the N900 so meaning no future heading, even BB6 is available to the older Bold 9700 but Nokia is out to lunch on this. Again that was a fair point and we can't sugar coat it for Nokia based on a technicality.

Re: BYE BYE N900 - Sad day Nokia!

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Originally Posted by Helmuth (Post 781266)

With 17 Thanks? We will miss you. ;)

It's not the number of thanks how people's role should be measured to this community. :(

Re: BYE BYE N900 - Sad day Nokia!

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Originally Posted by Laughing Man (Post 782330)

So you came to this community because of an Engadget, Gizmodo, Slashgear,etc.. article and you were considering a maemo device.

I wanted to replace my Palm m500 and I was tired with moving my addressbook/database/notes/etc to new platform yet-another-time. So, I decided that I need an open source platform - it is much easy to extract records from open source application files rather then private closed source. For exam HI-Note is not supported and died and I needed to use a complicated scheme to get records.

So, Nokia Linux box was very attractive (and still attractive, actually) after I learned about it. Besides that Nokia has an excellent reputation in RF reception.

Re: BYE BYE N900 - Sad day Nokia!

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Originally Posted by zhandro (Post 782336)

It's not the number of thanks how people's role should be measured to this community. :(

I'd thank you for that post, but what's the point... :D

Re: BYE BYE N900 - Sad day Nokia!

damn nokia... geez i thought they were going to support this til the end.

Re: BYE BYE N900 - Sad day Nokia!

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Originally Posted by fatalsaint (Post 782296)

So as a community.. I think we're doing ok.. that is: if you can find the decent threads amongst all the noise like this one. And yes, Ill say it, even the dev thank you thread in response to this one.

What you've described though... was application development.

I'm talking about OS support/development. That's where I think the closed bits + lack of support will become a problem. fMMS, DialCentral, et al has shown that this community knows how to develop applications... no doubt.

Re: BYE BYE N900 - Sad day Nokia!

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Originally Posted by Sopwith (Post 782342)

I'd thank you for that post, but what's the point... :D

LoL, nice one, I thanked you for giving me a good laugh, ;D

Re: BYE BYE N900 - Sad day Nokia!

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Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 781880)

Dont agree with you, great to get rid of one whinners in the Maemo/Meego community.

I dont give a **** what good he have done before cause I am so sick of whining this doesnt move the community forward!!! Nokia will not be more open cause of all whinings of people who doesnt know a shiut how bussines work. Ttere is NO hardwarecompany that has released all drivers as open source!

The fact is Nokia may decide to be more closed source and drop Meegoproject instead at the end and start using crappy windows mobile OS on highend instead, and thats not what I want as a Linux user/developer :-( :-(

Its insane how stupid people sometimes seems to be? Instead of whine about closed driver and shitty flash, just ask yourself this:

What is the altenatives if you want opennes and expremienting with the hardware?

Android? yeah right controlled by Google and HTC. How many totally open Android are there?!?

Ofcourse many thinks "Android is the best they have more apps and latest flash blablblabla" but as an european I dont want a big American company take control everything I do on the Internet Dont get me wrong Google has done alot good stuff for the OSS community but if they is the only its very bad at the end. Btw. There are plenty of people here that are angry cause the lack of payapps cause its not supported in northeuropean. And also flash has been discussed for several months so this is not only a problem in Maemo!!

So again is there othere alternative open?

Winmobile? I dont think so. Maybe the future for all windows fanboys but hell I will never use such crap OS.

Not talk about Iphone...

Forget that, if Nokia cannot walk the walk then they shouldn't talk the talk simple as that. Nokia makes great phones, but none of the phones had the entire package and focus put into it. Used and sourced hardware that believe in Open Source culture (Nokia has the clout to open these avenues and hasn't done enough in that regard). I rather see a company fully embrace it than see it warp and abuse the culture. Also fear not if they go the opposite way, it was money they came this way in the first place don't believe it otherwise ... and it will be only the loss of money that will take them the fully closed source model. Don't be naive, be a realists and know money, profits, and market share are the sole reasons for any decision and for Nokia the current strategy bodes well for them. So you might as well hold them accountable every chance you get as their are certain guidelines to follow in this sector don't ever let the company dictate their terms to you ... that is not open source values.