different n900s . . defferent performances!!!
 

hi fellow n900 freaks!!!

i sold my old n900 n bought a new one.

the old one ws a uk model, n the new ones a made in korea!!!

ive noticed tht the old one ws much faster compared to my new n900.

for eg. i never experienced lag when an incomming call ws coming, but wit the new one sometime i cant even recieve as the device become irresponsive!!

also over all the device is sometime very slow, the funny thing is tht ive restored the old n900s bak up on my new one n the old one ws much faster. .

even wit over clocking theres lag.

is this a hardware issue or a software issuse?

has nwone faced this issuse?

ny comments would be helpful.

thks!!! (n900 the laptop replacer)!!!

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All N900s are made in Korea.

Is it on the latest firmware?

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it may be you just had a better processor in the old one, as we've seen with oc'ing some can handle 1150mhz where others struggle to get past 850mhz,
mine is stable all the way to 1150mhz but ive started to get problems with my usb port becoming loose, and i am dreading sending it back to nokia in case it cant be repaired and i end up with one thats not as good.

also all n900's are made in korea afaik.

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Nnnnope mine's manufactured and bought in Finland. 8)

Responce to actual post:
I've noticed that bringing backups onto devices usually slow them down, so after clean restarts I try to restore everything manually. Of course I can't do this for everything (Calendar entries, numbers) but I try to keep restoring from a backup file to an absolute minimum.

Also, if you are running latest firmware, which flash version do you have?

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To compare you have to have both in vanilla state. Meaning:
- Just flashed emmc+rootfs
-->No apps or customization by you.

Then you can compare. When you install single app you basically have altered the factory default system and you have end up in situation that could not anymore be fully comparable to setups what other users have.

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No, it was designed in Finland.

Take off your rear cover, take out the battery and you'll see a white sticker with the words:

NOKIA
Model: N900
Type: RX-51
MADE IN KOREA

If it says Finland, well, pics or it didn't happen!!!

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Open the keyboard and look on the backplate of the screen and it tells you "Designed in Finland" with the CPU info at the opposite end.

If it doesn't, then check the back cover. If "Carl Zeiss. Tessar 2.8/5.2. AF 5MP" is embossed into the camera cover and NOKIA Nseries is printed on the back cover, then you may well have a fake.

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At least my first version was made in Salo Finland. See attachment taken 14.9.2009.

Afaik all protos and preseries for highend devices are made in Finland. Production is all over the world.

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Was that one given out at the maemo summit?

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Bloody hell! Never before seen an N900 made in Finland! Talk about turn up for the books....

Mines made in Korea, and to the best of my knowledge every other one on the planet is made in Korea, but here we have evidence to the contrary!

However, check out the line that states "NOT FOR SALE"..... Early prototype build - don't know why they even bothered putting a sticker in it stating country of origin.....

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That's definitely cool - I've seen a couple of other N900 prototypes, including one in what looked like a prototype case, but I've never seen the sticker on em before.

OP, while I doubt this is the case, could you have a knock-off? I recall one forum poster buying a knockoff that looked just like the real thing... until he went to reflash it(it couldn't be flashed).
Also, do you have the latest updates(or potentially the same old version) with the two different N900s? Different versions will introduce speed changes, whether positive or negative.

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no way. All n900s are not made in korea. Few lucky ones have Made in Finland ones too. I have a made in finland n900. I did post a picture on another thread abt this very topic. Firmware has nothing to do with it but just to answer your question, yes i am using latest firmware.

n900 transitions.ini file from cactus blue theme. use that, highly recommend it. It will speed up things considerably. OC it to atleast 800Mhz. In parallel, this will give a new life to your n900.

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This was covered a few times already...

All prototypes were made in Finland.
After them a little more than 400 devices were made in Finland, too.
These were handed to developers and some Nokians (100 pcs) and distributed at the maemo summit 2009 (300 pcs).
After these every N900 was made in Korea.

The 300 devices distributed at the summit were loaner devices, that mean that they had to be returned to Nokia for further distribution to developers.
If you got a N900 made in Finland from ebay you probably got a device which was not returned to Nokia.

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No I got that one directly from Nokia HQ

I was using it until february this year and then I returned it back to Nokia. The cover didn't have NOKIA logo and the the screen got scracthes easily. There is no scracthes at all on the new customer series device. I used all the new firmware updates and the unit was working well.

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Its an assumption that all prototypes were made in finland and the rest were not. Truth is nobody knows for sure how many were made in finland. Even ordering through dell, a few ended up with made in finland hardware. Its naive to assume they were bought through ebay

Anyways its an interesting debate because after paying the same amount of money, a few people apparently ended up with better hardware than the others.

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My N900 is made in Korea, but it's made for love.

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No, it's not an assumption.. ;)
Truth is that there are a lot people who know..
All N900s from Dell are coming from Korea.
I said that IF someone today does have a N900 from Finland and didn't got it from the maemo summit or Nokia directly there is only the possibility via ebay/similar platform.
ALL N900s from Finland have a label inside which says "Property of Nokia - Not for Sale".

The problem is, that you're implying that N900s from one country are better than the ones from another.
That is not the case.

There are differences in the charges.
The first charge had USB and Keyboard and dead pixel problems.
The second charge does not have these problems.
But devices from the second charge were also delivered at the same time as the first one.
It was cheaper to change the keyboard mat and the USB connector if someone complains than destroying a whole charge.

Also there are differences in the CPU.
Some can be overclocked very high, other will go unstable very soon.
But all are able to run at 600mhz.
So for the "normal enduser" there is no difference.
The difference the OP experienced is based on an unflashed eMMC, the restored backup and maybe a wrong eMMC image for the flashed firmware.

Re: different n900s . . defferent performances!!!
 

psychologically, some people have tendency to believe that the old stuffs would be better than the new one. they somehow manage their mind also perception to think that the one that stick with them for a period of time will be better than the new. i dont know how someone out there think about this but i sometimes did the same thing. but time will change anything and people woul think that ...hey i got it wrong at the first time after time of trying.

done never make a quick decicion about something that need time to stick around.

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yeah i got some problem with my n900 too...

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http://imgur.com/nSTFL.jpg
I bought it new and not used and personally ripped the nokia sticker off the box.

edit: spelling

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Ripped the nokia sticker off the box? What do you mean?
That's rare you're made in Finland.

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http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2448/...ab0_z.jpg?zz=1
the nokia sticker on the latch to open the box

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My brother in-law has a Made in Finland version and his is thinner and lighter than my Made in Korea, bought in USA first batch device.

Has anyone else noticed a difference in thickness between early ones and later ones?

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IMPOSSIBLE!!! You've got to be joking with this.

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methinks .......

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The FCC ID looks different in that image

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I think the correct term is "Assembled in Korea / Finland / Wherever" - and it doesn't even make the slightest difference.

All the IC's are grown in the same Asian countries, plastics punched out in the same injection molding factories, circuit boards etched out in the same fab plant - so really, does it matter who tightens the screws and affixes the QC sticker?