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thommy 2010-08-11 20:36

Meego 1.1 UX on N900 Video
 
Here's a new video I spotted on youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAtS5EUVAZ4

magullo 2010-08-11 20:39

Re: Meego 1.1 UX on N900 Video
 
thanks.
It looks like maemo is still more attractive :)

superg05 2010-08-12 05:20

Re: Meego 1.1 UX on N900 Video
 
so is that the new one from here?
http://www.nokian900applications.com...on-nokia-n900/

Stskeeps 2010-08-12 05:27

Re: Meego 1.1 UX on N900 Video
 
Development image, don't expect much :)

F2thaK 2010-08-12 05:38

Re: Meego 1.1 UX on N900 Video
 
painful to watch its so slow

maxximuscool 2010-08-12 06:08

Re: Meego 1.1 UX on N900 Video
 
one word to describe this: CRAP!

DonPIZI 2010-08-12 06:23

Re: Meego 1.1 UX on N900 Video
 
wow... very slow ... but looks good :)

marktold 2010-08-12 06:31

Re: Meego 1.1 UX on N900 Video
 
I sure hope it will look more like the pre Alpha for MeGoo for Tablets

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GB-nnFhGKbk

Regards Markus

ZShakespeare 2010-08-12 17:17

Re: Meego 1.1 UX on N900 Video
 
There is absolutely no way that it's going to be ready for October. I also doubt it's ever going to run smoothly on the n900's hardware. More likely they'll be focusing on the next gen ARM and Intel hardware as the baseline.

Spyker 2010-08-12 17:25

Re: Meego 1.1 UX on N900 Video
 
In its actual state Meego has still a long way to run before it's complete.
October sounds very optimistic for a release date, to me too.
With the "time-to-market" pressure, I really hope Nokia won't release a half-finished software for its computer-phone, otherwise it will end-up in another new toy for open-source enthusiasts only...

pycage 2010-08-12 18:15

Re: Meego 1.1 UX on N900 Video
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Spyker (Post 784418)
In its actual state Meego has still a long way to run before it's complete.
October sounds very optimistic for a release date, to me too.
With the "time-to-market" pressure, I really hope Nokia won't release a half-finished software for its computer-phone, otherwise it will end-up in another new toy for open-source enthusiasts only...

This is not what Nokia is going to sell. This is the MeeGo handset reference UI. It can be used by manufacturers to base their UI upon. I'm pretty sure Harmattan UI will be more along the lines of Maemo5 or Symbian^3 / ^4.

tissot 2010-08-12 20:49

Re: Meego 1.1 UX on N900 Video
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pycage (Post 784470)
This is not what Nokia is going to sell. This is the MeeGo handset reference UI. It can be used by manufacturers to base their UI upon. I'm pretty sure Harmattan UI will be more along the lines of Maemo5 or Symbian^3 / ^4.

Harmattan/MeeGo isn't only about the UI so people really shouldn't compare Meego handheld UX and Nokia's MeeGo/Harmattan dates too much like you said.
Here's the supposed MeeGo/Harmattan UI shown to those who haven't seen it yet after all the youtube videos have been taken out by Nokia.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xe8...uru-meego_tech

fadimck 2010-08-21 19:11

Re: Meego 1.1 UX on N900 Video
 
i believe that this is a beta version for a developer not Nokia

slaapliedje 2010-08-21 20:16

Re: Meego 1.1 UX on N900 Video
 
So I just installed it on my N900. I'll put up a video of it tomorrow, most likely.

My review of it's current state...

For the record, this was the image version 1.0.80.15.2010817.

This was the Nokia Proprietary raw image, with kernel 2.6.35-11.2-n900.

Let's start off by saying it actually probably boots faster than Maemo5 does. It just doesn't seem so because of the handshake boot up and dots going across the screen for Maemo5 blocks the kernel output.

Also the first time you boot it, it takes a bit of time to generate the ssh key.

The video looked a abit different than mine (probably the 1.1 vs 1.0? but they didn't have a 1.1 nokia proprietary one...though looking through the MeeGo repositories, it's the second to latest image anyhow. Latest being dated 2010820).

What I liked;

1. When you clicked on an icon, rather than a hourglass, or loading bar, you have a squarish circle appear around the icon. It's segmented and you'll see a sort of progression of a solid blue color that goes around the icon while the app loads.

2. Task manager. Similar to Maemo5's task manager, except that the window takes most of the screen, and you scroll through it, more like the desktop Alt+Tab, but with a close button. This is a "I like it, but not necessarily better than Maemo5" rating. It is more readable, and easier to close apps on it, but not as cool looking or functional.

What I didn't like;

1.The bar at the bottom where in the video there were applications, this one only had four white squares at the bottom that when pressed would open up the application menu. Similar to what the button in the upper left does on Maemo5. Problem is, the Icons are under the semi-transparent bar that looks like a launch dock.

2. The Battery/antenna/Clock bar is separate from the application bar. It's tiny at the top, which is nice, but then you have this big fat Application bar that looks VERY much like Android. You can click the House button and it brings up the task manager. Then it has some test widgets, etc.

I realize this is just a preview, and that this is supposed to be the 'standard' MeeGo UI for handsets, and not what Nokia plans on making.

Guess we'll see what the full 1.1 has in store. The video on Youtube seems to be more likely 1.0.7 or something.

slaapliedje

dtergens 2010-09-12 14:49

Re: Meego 1.1 UX on N900 Video
 
another video, MeeGo Handset UX Build 20100907 on Nokia N900
look great, seems better and better day after day.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uO0VoHtVdY8

daperl 2010-09-12 15:28

Re: Meego 1.1 UX on N900 Video
 
Thanks for the link, but who besides me is tired of watching people that don't know how to use a resistive touch screen? I'm sure MeeGo is to blame for some of it, but she simply sucks at the n900.

Doesn't anyone rehearse any more?

bxbomber 2010-09-12 15:34

Re: Meego 1.1 UX on N900 Video
 
Looks nice, I really hope nokia doesn't half *** the nokia n9.

Reffyyyy 2010-09-12 15:35

Re: Meego 1.1 UX on N900 Video
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by daperl (Post 814170)
Thanks for the link, but who besides me is tired of watching people that don't know how to use a resistive touch screen? I'm sure MeeGo is to blame for some of it, but she simply sucks at the n900.

Doesn't anyone rehearse any more?

I don't think it's anything to do with the screen. I think it's just the interface is generally not responsive right now.

daperl 2010-09-12 15:48

Re: Meego 1.1 UX on N900 Video
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Reffyyyy (Post 814175)
I don't think it's anything to do with the screen. I think it's just the interface is generally not responsive right now.

No, she sucks. As of a few weeks ago, the app launcher was certainly having some lag issues, but notice the difference.

n900 lover 2010-09-12 16:08

Re: Meego 1.1 UX on N900 Video
 
i dont know about you guys but these videos are making me miss maemo, even though i still have it on my phone.... i dont know if this is what meego is gonna look like but it kinda reminds me of android in certain aspects and i really dont like that.

give me maemo anyday over any other OS around.

Reffyyyy 2010-09-12 16:11

Re: Meego 1.1 UX on N900 Video
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by daperl (Post 814187)
No, she sucks. As of a few weeks ago, the app launcher was certainly having some lag issues, but notice the difference.

Ahhhh. Yeah, you're right. I fail to see how people can have problems when using resistive screens.

dtergens 2010-09-12 16:12

Re: Meego 1.1 UX on N900 Video
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by daperl (Post 814187)
No, she sucks. As of a few weeks ago, the app launcher was certainly having some lag issues, but notice the difference.

so you mean that there's a difference between a man and a women gesture ? \o/ :D I'm going out...

aironeous 2010-09-12 16:49

Re: Meego 1.1 UX on N900 Video
 
Wait a second....what the hell is this I just stumbled across while watching meego on N900 youtube videos?!

flash 10.1 tweak
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMjvZ...eature=related
I'm not a programmer, someone please esplain.

Oh and meego 1.1 on a proto device with a faster processor 1.5ghz.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqpVP...eature=related

JayBEE 2010-09-12 16:56

Re: Meego 1.1 UX on N900 Video
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by aironeous (Post 814234)
Wait a second....what the hell is this I just stumbled across while watching meego on N900 youtube videos?!

flash 10.1 tweak
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMjvZ...eature=related
I'm not a programmer, someone please esplain.

Oh that's just the Tweak Flash plugin, it's been around for a bit now.

Ignacius 2010-09-12 17:13

Re: Meego 1.1 UX on N900 Video
 
If I have to believe this (Meego 1.1) is going to be ready for production on October/November, just let me be a little exceptical. As for now, I think Maemo's UI is far way better....

aironeous 2010-09-12 17:19

Re: Meego 1.1 UX on N900 Video
 
I like that word Exceptical....
Let's get exceptically creative and use that word in some sentences.

aironeous 2010-09-12 17:25

Re: Meego 1.1 UX on N900 Video
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JayBEE (Post 814237)
Oh that's just the Tweak Flash plugin, it's been around for a bit now.

Holy s**t thanks, how did i not see this before?
Wait a second ....... I just thanked you instead of atilla who created the program....
That's an exceptical error.

Laughing Man 2010-09-12 18:50

Re: Meego 1.1 UX on N900 Video
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ignacius (Post 814245)
If I have to believe this (Meego 1.1) is going to be ready for production on October/November, just let me be a little exceptical. As for now, I think Maemo's UI is far way better....

Is vanilla Meego (not Harmattan-Meego which has a different UI) suppose to be ready for production by October/November?

bxbomber 2010-09-12 19:33

Re: Meego 1.1 UX on N900 Video
 
Lately i've been seeing more and more people saying the first nokia device will be a meego-harmattan hybrid as oppsed to meego 1.1, can anyone explain to me the true difference of these devices, and will we be able to run all meego apps on a meego-harmattan device?

Odd_gunnic 2010-09-12 19:52

Re: Meego 1.1 UX on N900 Video
 
Interested to see browser performance!

pycage 2010-09-12 20:06

Re: Meego 1.1 UX on N900 Video
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bxbomber (Post 814343)
Lately i've been seeing more and more people saying the first nokia device will be a meego-harmattan hybrid as oppsed to meego 1.1, can anyone explain to me the true difference of these devices, and will we be able to run all meego apps on a meego-harmattan device?

What you know as MeeGo from screenshots and videos is the reference implementation. Manufacturers can use this, make it prettier with their own themes, or completely build another UX on top (like WeTab and most likely also Nokia do).
The N900 successor will run Harmattan which is actually Maemo6, but renamed to MeeGo.
All these platforms and the N900 have in common that they are equipped with the Qt framework. So developers only have to target Qt to be (source-code) compatible with all of these devices / OS. The application will still have to be compiled for each platform (maybe the N900 will be able to run Harmattan apps directly, we'll see).

oskarmat 2010-09-12 20:21

Re: Meego 1.1 UX on N900 Video
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by n900 lover (Post 814202)
i dont know about you guys but these videos are making me miss maemo, even though i still have it on my phone.... i dont know if this is what meego is gonna look like but it kinda reminds me of android in certain aspects and i really dont like that.

give me maemo anyday over any other OS around.

maemo sucks ***. I can't wait till meego gets out so I can get rid of this crap.

Reffyyyy 2010-09-12 20:22

Re: Meego 1.1 UX on N900 Video
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by oskarmat (Post 814374)
maemo sucks ***. I can't wait till meego gets out so I can get rid of this crap.

I fail to see why you bought the phone.

Venemo 2010-09-12 22:49

Re: Meego 1.1 UX on N900 Video
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Reffyyyy (Post 814376)
I fail to see why you bought the phone.

I bet he didn't. He's just one of the trolls who come here "for the lulz".

joshua.maverick 2010-09-12 23:15

Re: Meego 1.1 UX on N900 Video
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Reffyyyy (Post 814376)
I fail to see why you bought the phone.

The advertising made it seem like it was a solid os. They lied.

Reffyyyy 2010-09-12 23:22

Re: Meego 1.1 UX on N900 Video
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by joshua.maverick (Post 814470)
The advertising made it seem like it was a solid os. They lied.

I really didn't see much advertising. Advertising is irrelevant anyway. I wouldn't buy the phone based on what Nokia say, I base it on a few hours of research.

fraad 2010-09-12 23:36

Re: Meego 1.1 UX on N900 Video
 
any body got meego on there n900 yet been trying to get it but cant
seen video on youtube but its in cantonesse been trying to do it for days lol i got nitdroid working ok but the comands thay give you for meego i just cant do on n900

wmarone 2010-09-13 00:21

Re: Meego 1.1 UX on N900 Video
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by joshua.maverick (Post 814470)
The advertising made it seem like it was a solid os. They lied.

It is a solid OS. If it wasn't, I'd expect the thing to be rebooting randomly all the time and unable to so much as make a phonecall.

If you want to see a mobile OS that isn't solid, go look at OpenMoko.

geohsia 2010-09-13 01:17

Re: Meego 1.1 UX on N900 Video
 
I hate seeing stuff that doesn't meet UI guidelines... painful. Show me the photoshop of what it's going to look like and tell me when its going to be released. I don't really need to see the in-between stages.

maxximuscool 2010-09-13 01:25

Re: Meego 1.1 UX on N900 Video
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by joshua.maverick (Post 814470)
The advertising made it seem like it was a solid os. They lied.

Maemo 5 is also advertised as a solid OS but after 2months of released into the wilderness, it isn't that solid after all.

So will MeeGo be solidified by the time it release? Well we'll have to wait to see :)

Who will be the first adopter here? Not me, how many dude you know roll like this? Not many..If any..I don't know any body (SCRIBE) lol


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