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fpp 2010-08-18 20:07

Re: [Announce] Grr google reader client REMAKE
 
Finally set some time aside to make the switch, and indeed the improvement over the original is incredible. Congratulations !

Main things still missing (for me) is a full "new posts" list and a global "show only updated" preference for all feeds. But this Grr is already way more usable, thanks for that !

TheBootroo 2010-08-18 21:31

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UPDATE : Trojita :

- speed up the ui
- bold blue text for new entries
- changed "Number of messages : X" to "X messages"

http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/6...hottrojita.jpg


EDIT : same thing coming to Grr soon

giannoug 2010-08-18 21:35

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Man, you are just awesome. By the way, do you have any links / reference / etc for the UI elements you use?

TheBootroo 2010-08-19 00:04

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UPDATE : Grrr

- using now same style that Trojita (rounded bubbles for unread, and gradients, same colors)
- added banner for when marking all as read
- trying to gain some room for feed entries label (reducing margins, removing bold weight, and changing text size from 22 to 18)
- more consistent look : non starred entries have an empty star icon (there was no icon at all before, causing a bad-looking indent)
- yet more consistent look : date and author are not deplacing the label to the bottom, so when one information is not fulled, the genral look stays correct


main window : list of feeds :
http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/2...eenshotgrr.jpg

one feed entries list :
http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/5...enshotgrr2.jpg


PS : file is on my ftp like always


EDIT :

- i'll add the 'New entries' fake-feed as soon i'll have found how to do that
- i'm thinking about adding a header on the content visualisation page, to show the complete label when its too long to be displayed on the list
- i'll add the configuration page for rotation behavior soon (the same that in trojita)
- i'll make the 'add feed' button and the 'feed info' one as soon as i could access some google reader api documentation
- and finally i'm thinking about an efficient model for offline access and some nice feature like 'read that later' or favicons for feeds....

so stay tuned .....

Sphinx780 2010-08-19 01:50

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I am digging your grr, Thanks!

I have to say the only things I would like to see added would be the 'new' feed as other posters mentioned if you figure out how to do it.... and another item that would be cool if possible would be a 'share with note' option. No clue if it's doable or not...either way awesome job.

I must be overlooking something with trojita...i am trying to set up a gmail acct in it...have the settings configured to google's imap/smtp but I gt a login failure...double and triple checked my typing...can't find what I'm overlooking.

keep up the good work!

qwenjis 2010-08-19 01:54

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New version of Grr looks AWESOME!!! Fantastic work.

Is there any chance you work together with original author of the app? Or may be you could add your changed apps in repos?

kamishly 2010-08-19 01:55

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Very nice indeed!!

I can't view it in portrait mode like in the picture you have, any suggestion?

Thanks!

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBootroo (Post 791209)
UPDATE : Grrr

- using now same style that Trojita (rounded bubbles for unread, and gradients, same colors)
- added banner for when marking all as read
- trying to gain some room for feed entries label (reducing margins, removing bold weight, and changing text size from 22 to 18)
- more consistent look : non starred entries have an empty star icon (there was no icon at all before, causing a bad-looking indent)
- yet more consistent look : date and author are not deplacing the label to the bottom, so when one information is not fulled, the genral look stays correct


main window : list of feeds :
http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/2...eenshotgrr.jpg

one feed entries list :
http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/5...enshotgrr2.jpg


PS : file is on my ftp like always


EDIT :

- i'll add the 'New entries' fake-feed as soon i'll have found how to do that
- i'm thinking about adding a header on the content visualisation page, to show the complete label when its too long to be displayed on the list
- i'll add the configuration page for rotation behavior soon (the same that in trojita)
- i'll make the 'add feed' button and the 'feed info' one as soon as i could access some google reader api documentation
- and finally i'm thinking about an efficient model for offline access and some nice feature like 'read that later' or favicons for feeds....

so stay tuned .....


gruik 2010-08-19 12:57

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When I want to install trojita I have an error: "Impossible to install trojita. Applications packetage are incompatible" (I've translated it, I'm french)

qwenjis 2010-08-19 15:13

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You have to install it via terminal.

gruik 2010-08-19 15:21

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oh.. i don't have the skills to do that. There is a tutorial for that?

qwenjis 2010-08-19 16:30

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Code:

root
dpkg -i /home/user/MyDocs/trojita_20100819_armel.deb

Or change the pass of the trojita to yours

nshelekhov 2010-08-19 18:48

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Please add grrqt to testing-repo if it's possible.
Thank you.

suyangcn 2010-08-19 22:30

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A suggestion: Could you change the font color? Blue font with dark background does not offer enough contrast. Yellow would be OK. Thanks.

barzam 2010-08-31 15:45

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Great job! Your Grr fork looks absolutely superb!

Some things I'd like to see implemented:
* publication on the extras-devel repository (but I guess this in on the way)
* being able to pick colors (eg. red for updated thread)
* being able to lock it into portrait/landscape orientation
* being able to hide the menu (button or shortcut)
* being able to sort the feeds according to the groups specified in my Google account (eg. news, IT, maemo, whatever).
* how do we donate?
* About says Grr version 0.0.4 (same as the original version of Grr, this can't be!)

Again, thanks a lot for taking the time!

[edit: typos]

moribmg 2010-09-04 23:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sphinx780 (Post 791263)
I am digging your grr, Thanks!
...
I must be overlooking something with trojita...i am trying to set up a gmail acct in it...have the settings configured to google's imap/smtp but I gt a login failure...double and triple checked my typing...can't find what I'm overlooking.
...

I can't setup gmail either, I've checked several times and can't find anything wrong with the settings I've entered.

Has anyone been able to get trojita working?

Edit: I restarted the app and it's working now!

TheBootroo 2010-09-05 00:17

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it's working fine for me (but trojita can't send mail atm, just receive)

moribmg 2010-09-05 00:59

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Yeah I was messing around with smtp right now and figured that it wasn't enabled yet. Thanks for the good work!

Looking at the original trojita project, smtp doesn't have SSL implemented yet:
http://projects.flaska.net/issues/show/8

Is that the main issue you're facing for sending mail?

Netweaver 2010-09-08 20:44

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small question : how does Trojita handle deletion of gmail mails ? Simply removing the inbox label so the mail is still visible in the All Mail folder (modest behaviour) ?

Or moving the mail to the trash folder (and so really deleting it) ?

I want the 2nd solution. Any chance for that ?
Thanks anyway for this very nice version !

Netweaver 2010-09-09 09:39

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some requests, maybe I should address them to the original Trojita QT developer, let me know if I should...

- can you put a multiple mail delete functionality in place ?
- possibility for a continuous reading mode, without going back to the main email list ? Like read an email, press delete, see next email. and also some buttons like forward/backward
- possibility to change the size and the default (plain text) reading font ? I prefer Arial for reading anytime but but for certain content eg. tables, it might be needed to switch temp. to a fixed width font. Maybe use the modest idea for the font/mail rendering size (volume up/down)

Just some ideas, I really like how this is progressing.

I'm just a bit confused what's the latest source now. I first installed from the extras-devel repo, then I installed from a http download from your site. Then I got an update from the repo as well. Now I'm lost what I have ...
The one with an icon says in the about box : v0.1-407-g99ae9a3-dirty ...
Is this the last version ?
And I also still have one without an icon in the app list but that doesn't start anymore.

How do you plan to integrate your changes into Jan's original work ? If not, you'll be continuously chasing his versions and applying your patches ...

Cheers

fpp 2010-09-09 09:47

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I have never been able to connect to my Gmail account using Trojita. Whatever I do, all I get is "Network error: the underlying socket is having problems : Host not found" (twice)

TheBootroo 2010-09-24 03:31

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****************************** UPDATE ******************************

I'm glad to announce the brand-new version of Grr NG !!!

This is a uncomplete list of the new features :

- Revamped UX to stick more to MeeGo and a little of my own.... ;-) (some people have said they love my custom maemo theme in viewing my previous screenshots, so i did an attemp to provide my theme inside the application UX CSS style, because Qt allows it)
- Settings dialog to set orientation settings and filter on updated feeds
- added an header over the list of entries with details of feed (because i made a cleanup on titlebar)
- added a larger strip over the content view with many details on the viewed news : publishing date, title (with working word wrapping if text is too long), author name, website, category....
- switching between view is just instantaneous
- i have integrated the maemo information banners between the UX element to avoir them to pass over and block the clicking, and gived them a nicer looking
- accelerated all slide gestures in lists and viewports
- corrected a bug that made some entries not being marked as read or as favorite when using 'Previous' / ' Next' button
- beautified Connection dialog (now in 'Account Settings')
- removed old maemo menus in titlebar, and just added a nice 'About' dialog instead.
- many other improvements.....

you can find it as usual in my FTP :
http://modern-os.projects.servhome.o...1.99_armel.deb

As you will see, i've improved compilation and packaging :
- the package takes 1.0 MB instead of 1.3
- version is set to 2.1.99 to avoid replacemetn by old version from repos...
- the Name is now 'Grr NG' to differentiate it in the menu
- icon is back


Hope you love it !

Cheers.


PS : in respone to barzam, are in the work :
- customizable color in the whole UX from a single hue of color
- un/foldable categories for feeds (labels are already showed up in the content header)
- extra repos will be done as soon i will have an invite and an id for that...
- for the donation, that's good from you but i really prefer greeting and smiles ;-)

ivgalvez 2010-09-24 07:32

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Great work, I'll try to test it later.

Aren't you going to upload the package to Extras?

donaggio 2010-09-24 08:15

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Thanks a lot TheBootroo!
As a regular user of Grr I think your revamped UX was much needed!

Just something I noticed:

- scrollbars: are they really needed? can't they be made non-permanent (ie appear when scrolling and then fade away)?
- in feed list (portrait mode), it is possible to pan left or right too, which is annoying; moreover, the numbers of unread posts in each always become hidden and reappear only when panning left
- the buttons on the settings dialog are too tiny and difficult to select with your thumb, especially the close button (this stands for the about dialog too)

Anyway, thanks again for your efforts and the time you spent on this project! Great job!

ForeverYoung 2010-09-24 14:14

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moving buttons to the left side (optional) would be nice

TheBootroo 2010-09-24 14:18

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sorry i can't move the button easily, but when i will have found a trick for moving buttons from one side to other instead of replicating (ouch) the whole toolbars and hiding the other i will do it

ForeverYoung 2010-09-24 14:23

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3 new items in feed. Enter feed, next, next - I don't see 3rd item. Repeated several times.

igorlt 2010-09-24 17:54

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@TheBootroo

Great job! I really love this new release.

Let me ask you something... is it possible to make GRR play the youtube videos that are embedded on a feed?

TheBootroo 2010-09-24 17:55

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normally it can since i have activated plugins ...

igorlt 2010-09-24 18:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBootroo (Post 825447)
normally it can since i have activated plugins ...

GRR doesnīt show the youtube videos for me. Do I have to install anything else?

TheBootroo 2010-09-24 18:12

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no but you may have to have it to finish loading the video maybe ?

igorlt 2010-09-24 18:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBootroo (Post 825463)
no but you may have to have it to finish loading the video maybe ?

I donīt think so...

Take a look at this snapshot... The video should be in this white space.

slender 2010-09-24 18:20

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Really weird. I have same problem with trojita ui enhance. btw. Amazing work! Sometimes when I scroll list and tap item nothing happens. I have to tap double or more so it gets selected. It seems to happen after scrolling list. Also it would be nice to show tapped item higlited only when item is clicked (but not as in maemo default gui where highlighting just happens also when you are swiping).

Also home button IMO would be better as default maemo UI multitask button look.

TheBootroo 2010-09-24 18:33

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A LOT OF SCREENSHOTS FOR THE ONES WHO DIDN'T SAW THE FINAL PRODUCT :

(click to see real size ones)

Login dialog :
http://modern-os.projects.servhome.o...in.resized.png

Main Window with Feeds list :
http://modern-os.projects.servhome.o...ds.resized.png

Entries list :
http://modern-os.projects.servhome.o...es.resized.png

Content viewing (with header strip) :
http://modern-os.projects.servhome.o...er.resized.png

Another content window (with Youtube playing) :
http://modern-os.projects.servhome.o...be.resized.png

Settings Page :
http://modern-os.projects.servhome.o...gs.resized.png

About splash :
http://modern-os.projects.servhome.o...ut.resized.png


Hoping you like this new UX... ;-)


PS : my ftp package has been a little updated few minutes ago, so you can redownload it at :
Grr NG 2.1.99


@Slender :
- home button will stay as it is, its meego default one and my UXes are more meego-ish than maemo-ish
- the highlighting is already disabled on scrolling
- the bug with double tapping is reported but i didn't yet fixed it, just as horizontal panning one....

@igorlt:
- i can't find why youtube didn't plays for you ....

slender 2010-09-24 18:39

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Actually I meant that highlighting is good! It give user feedback, but the way itīs done in default maemo gui is IMO wrong. It should get highlighted after it detects tap that activates something. It might make transition little slower but IMO itīs quite important to give user some kind of feedback that tap was "successful".

Actually itīs the default way how android and iPhone menus work IIRC.

taike_hk 2010-09-25 03:59

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Just installed it and found a big problem for me : the article text cannot be zoomed in/out using the volume key. The text is too small for my strained eyes... Otherwise, I love it.

slender 2010-09-25 06:46

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little things and feature requests :)
  • refresh button changes its location when you go reading subsciptions. also it looks different. IMO it should be in same place as in main view ancd haved same icon on it
  • is it possible to move subsc. info (unread items etc.) to window title?
  • blue text on grey background makes text little bit harder to read if compared to white(maybe ability to choose font color)
  • Probably just way how hildon/qt rotates but is it possible rotate app so that icons do not jump to side of screen but rotate in their own place?
  • I like scrollbar at least when in landscape because there is so much screen space to use but it's bit small and i accidentally tap buttons when trying to use it.
  • also it might be nice to be able to hide buttons with e.g. little arrow (little animation to menu flow in/out of screen)
  • ability to change font size
  • browse icon imo could be earth icon.
  • ability to browse just starred items
  • ability to type and search topics/subsc (maybe so that first shortcut f/s and then little popup where you can type

I like the style and speed of this app very much! Thank you so much!

rebhana 2010-09-25 07:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by taike_hk (Post 825822)
Just installed it and found a big problem for me : the article text cannot be zoomed in/out using the volume key. The text is too small for my strained eyes... Otherwise, I love it.

I second that. It would be great if one could choose larger fonts somehow! If not by zooming, through settings?

taike_hk 2010-09-25 07:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rebhana (Post 825847)
I second that. It would be great if one could choose larger fonts somehow! If not by zooming, through settings?

A large font option can help for sure. I miss the original Grr's zooming and text reflow tho. Hopefully it can be implemented.

akashbhavsar 2010-09-25 15:51

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I love the GRR app. Awesome work!! Was looking for something exactly similar.

I installed it yesterday. But I noticed that after installing this from OP's FTP repo, my CPU uilization bumped overnight and the CPU sucked my battery.

This is the only app I installed yesterday and Batterygraph shows that my CPU utilization for the night before is 0.

Is it just me? Or can someone else confirm this?

ForeverYoung 2010-09-29 19:28

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FR:
Leaving read items in list if item is read right now. Like in "web-version".
Sometimes I press next accidentally and when I press prev, I can't return to not read item.

End bug: next dosn't go next, but next+1


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