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abill_uk 2010-08-17 12:20

Re: what is this community prepared to do for us regarding the N900?
 
Same goes for the Meego projects but the drivers are closed source, once again!.

tswindell 2010-08-17 12:21

Re: what is this community prepared to do for us regarding the N900?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by abill_uk (Post 789280)
If you think about this , the closed source drivers have to be in the vanilla updates but how do we de-encrypt?.

de-encrypt? What?

They are and will be binaries.

abill_uk 2010-08-17 12:23

Re: what is this community prepared to do for us regarding the N900?
 
Anthonie this thread is NOT about usb otg and i would very much like to keep it that way, if you wish answers on usb otg then start a new thread regarding this and see where it goes and i will also participate if it is NOT abused ok.

tswindell 2010-08-17 12:24

Re: what is this community prepared to do for us regarding the N900?
 
abill, can you please answer my question so we can move forward. What do you want/need opening?

abill_uk 2010-08-17 12:25

Re: what is this community prepared to do for us regarding the N900?
 
They are closed source so therefore they will be encrypted !
Or are they held within the N900 somewhere?, you know the closed source term mean exactly that and that they will not put drivers in non encrypted bineries !.

abill_uk 2010-08-17 12:26

Re: what is this community prepared to do for us regarding the N900?
 
Many people not just me want the FULL OS in a open source fashion including every single driver.

tswindell 2010-08-17 12:28

Re: what is this community prepared to do for us regarding the N900?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by abill_uk (Post 789293)
They are closed source so therefore they will be encrypted !
Or are they held within the N900 somewhere?, you know the closed source term mean exactly that and that they will not put drivers in non encrypted bineries !.

Closed source, means, the source code for their binaries are not available, it has nothing to do with encryption. They compile the source and give us the binaries. There is no encryption. Now, can you answer my question? I'm not going to continue to try and help you if you just ignore it...

anthonie 2010-08-17 12:28

Re: what is this community prepared to do for us regarding the N900?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by abill_uk (Post 789290)
Anthonie this thread is NOT about usb otg and i would very much like to keep it that way, if you wish answers on usb otg then start a new thread regarding this and see where it goes and i will also participate if it is NOT abused ok.

To add to the previous posting, Abill, please, read more carefully. I have stated a couple of times already that this mod is NOT, repeat, NOT for me. But others certainly have shown interest and have expressed their willingness to take chances and brick their devices.

Now, considering the fact that you have brought your mod in to (re)gain a certain amount of credibility, it is only natural to ask to share. Yasta. Nie mas, nie menos.

tswindell 2010-08-17 12:31

Re: what is this community prepared to do for us regarding the N900?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by abill_uk (Post 789294)
Many people not just me want the FULL OS in a open source fashion including every single driver.

Yeah, you're skirting the issue as usual. You want something just say and maybe we can move forward. Talking about how everyone, in an ideal world wants everything open is just ridiculous. Do you even know why you want _all_ the components opened?

Rob1n 2010-08-17 12:33

Re: what is this community prepared to do for us regarding the N900?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by abill_uk (Post 789230)
How do we get Nokia to release the closed source they are holding on to? what is the best way forward to do this?.

Nokia currently is not prepared to waste resources opening further Maemo components (though this may change). We, as a community, have pretty much zero influence on this though, and any change is likely to come about due to MeeGo rather than explicitly for Maemo.

Quote:

Originally Posted by abill_uk (Post 789230)
Can we have the FULL os converted to source? including drivers.

Some drivers will get released as part of MeeGo, possibly all of them - the MeeGo web site/forums/mailing lists would be the place to find about this though. I foresee very little chance of getting the entirety of Fremantle open sourced though, and absolutely zip the community (as a whole) can do about this.

My current expectations are for Maemo 5 to hold out at least until the MeeGo release (it's still doing everything I need in a phone, and my issues with it are very minor), then I'll be weighing up the options of either a community-supported MeeGo release for the N900, a new phone, or sticking with Maemo 5.


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