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dn247 2010-08-20 18:57

Re: will pay to have app made
 
no js think its a great way to check what your kids are doing nothing like stealing ny,umbers i understand ur concern

terryowen 2010-08-20 18:57

Re: will pay to have app made
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by festivalnut (Post 793349)
ooooh... if ur planning on using it to sneaky the phone numbers out forget my input! want nothing to do with that! forget the legalities its just bad karma man! and waaaay too open to abuse!

Again, please direct negative comments to me, since I'm the one who broached the possibility.

My apologies to dns247.

Terry

dn247 2010-08-20 19:03

Re: will pay to have app made
 
its alright terry dont worry about it :) this is a positive maybe i cud learn better parent skills lol !!

terryowen 2010-08-20 19:17

Re: will pay to have app made
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by festivalnut (Post 793343)
some pro's and cons (just as i see it!)

web server - possible, entirely software based, more elegant, though requires web server (duh) username, pass, etc. plus requires kids phones to have internet enabled (depends on your views as a parent on unrestricted web access) and also privacy issues.

Web server sounds interesting - host a small database app that could be exported to contact info format.

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I'm going to stir the hornet's nest a bit now... :-) Since this is a real Linux computer, what about configuring Wireshark somehow? I don't actually know how to use it but I'm aware that it can pull wireless info - both for licit and illicit purposes. (We use it in the labs at work on test hardware.)

Whether or not Wireshark could pull a number that someone was talking or texting to or other data, I don't know. I do know that a phone's OS _shouldn't_ let someone do that but it might be an interesting security test - to see how much data bleeds out into the open.

Hmmm... now I'm wondering just how much I'm exposing when I use wifi hot spots.

Terry

terryowen 2010-08-20 19:22

Re: will pay to have app made
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dn247 (Post 793359)
its alright terry dont worry about it :) this is a positive maybe i cud learn better parent skills lol !!

I didn't intend for my comments to make you a target, though.

As a mother who raised 4 daughters, I know that at least 2 of them would not have left their phones alone long enough for anyone to attach a cable to anyway.

I do think that parents have a right to monitor their minor child's activities - there are so many dangers in the world.

Terry

festivalnut 2010-08-20 19:47

Re: will pay to have app made
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by terryowen (Post 793373)
Web server sounds interesting - host a small database app that could be exported to contact info format.

==

I'm going to stir the hornet's nest a bit now... :-) Since this is a real Linux computer, what about configuring Wireshark somehow? I don't actually know how to use it but I'm aware that it can pull wireless info - both for licit and illicit purposes. (We use it in the labs at work on test hardware.)

Whether or not Wireshark could pull a number that someone was talking or texting to or other data, I don't know. I do know that a phone's OS _shouldn't_ let someone do that but it might be an interesting security test - to see how much data bleeds out into the open.

Hmmm... now I'm wondering just how much I'm exposing when I use wifi hot spots.

Terry

i dont think any phone would transmit over wifi data that was just required for cellular modem, without asserting some virus-type behaviour over the tarhet device. but i may be wrong! as for the webserver, if someon has one and is willing to provide the space, the perfect solution may be in sight... most phones have a backup all contacts option these days, albeit it in different formats sometimes, if the webserver could recode these different format into one used by the n900 then transfer to and fro is the only real issue left.

terryowen 2010-08-20 20:00

Re: will pay to have app made
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by festivalnut (Post 793397)
i dont think any phone would transmit over wifi data that was just required for cellular modem, without asserting some virus-type behaviour over the tarhet device. but i may be wrong! as for the webserver, if someon has one and is willing to provide the space, the perfect solution may be in sight... most phones have a backup all contacts option these days, albeit it in different formats sometimes, if the webserver could recode these different format into one used by the n900 then transfer to and fro is the only real issue left.

Would you even need an external web server? I thought there were a few in the repositories. And I know that desktop Firefox has an add-in to create an ad hoc server.

Then you could upload a csv file and have a script that converts it. With all the various options, it seems like there is likely existing scripts out there somewhere that could be reused.

I don't have enough contacts to make it worthwhile to do it for myself but if anyone puts together something I can help test it. I have old Nokia, WinMo and Android phones.

Terry

TiagoTiago 2010-08-20 22:58

Re: will pay to have app made
 
If you're gonna invade your children's privacy, do it in the open; if you think they're gonna hate you for forcing them to not have secrets with you, imagine how they will feel when they find out you went behind their backs and betrayed their trust.


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