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imperiallight 2010-08-24 13:41

New n9 specs from the people with the prototype
 
From Eldair's Mobile review via baidu - the chinese people that dismatled the n9 prototype.

MeeGo-smartphone Nokia N9: specification [08/24/2010 13:14]

Автор: Ирина Тюрина Источник: baidu.com Author: Irina Turina Source: Baidu.com Send news to a friend discuss in forum

Характеристики Nokia N9: Features Nokia N9:

* Чипсет: Qualcomm Snapdragon QSD8250 (1-ГГц процессор) Chipset: Qualcomm Snapdragon QSD8250 (1-GHz processor)
* Дисплей: 4-дюймовый, сенсорный, WVGA Display: 4-inch touchscreen, WVGA, OLED
* Беспроводная связь: Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g/n, Bluetooth 2.1, HSPA+ Wireless: Wi-Fi 802.11 b / g / n, Bluetooth 2.1, HSPA +
* Камера: 5-Мп, видеозапись 720p Camera: 5 megapixel, video recording 720p
* Память: 512 Мб RAM, 1 Гб ROM, 64 Гб флеш Memory: 512 MB RAM, 1 GB ROM, 64 GB Flash
* MicroSD-слот MicroSD-slot
* GPS-приемник GPS-receiver
* Вес: 160 граммов Weight: 160 grams

The another spec rumour by NokNok says N9 is

* Operating System: MeeGo^1
* Screen Resolution: 1280*720
* Screen Color Depth: 24 bit
* Screen Size: 4.0 inch
* Display Technology: AMOLED (RGB)
* Thickness: 14.2 mm
* Weight: 150 g
* Input Method: Touch Screen and Slide-out QWERTY Keyboard
* Data Bearers: WLAN IEEE 802.11b/g/n, HSPA+, WCDMA, EGPRS, EDGE
* CPU Type: ARM Cortex-A8
* CPU Clock Rate: 1 GHz
* Graphics Processor: SGX540
* Flash Technology: Adobe Flash 10.1
* Camera Resolution: 4000*3000 (12Mp)
* CMOS Sensor: 1/1.7 inch
* Camera Focal length: 28 mm
* Video Recording Resolution: 1280*720
* Video Recording Frame Rate: 30 fps
* Mass Storage Memory: 64 GB
* NAND Memory: 1 GB
* SDRAM Memory: 512 MB
* Maximum Memory Card Size: 32 GB
* Connectivity: Bluetooth 3.0, HDMI mini C Connector, Micro-USB(OTG), etc
* Battery: 1320 mAh

Which seems better and more likely!

evankwh 2010-08-24 13:47

Re: New n9 specs from the people with the prototype
 
as mentioned on some other forums it does look quite like the mac book and that keyboard is lovely, i like the screen size as well. But this is not going to be released for a while.

ivanzorkic 2010-08-24 13:51

Re: New n9 specs from the people with the prototype
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by imperiallight (Post 796878)

* Чипсет: Qualcomm Snapdragon QSD8250 (1-ГГц процессор) Chipset: Qualcomm Snapdragon QSD8250 (1-GHz processor)
* Дисплей: 4-дюймовый, сенсорный, WVGA Display: 4-inch

It definitely won't be Snapdragon, but a version of OMAP3.

All this is just wild speculation. At least it's good the N9 is getting some hype.

Lullen 2010-08-24 15:21

Re: New n9 specs from the people with the prototype
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by imperiallight (Post 796878)
* Operating System: MeeGo^1
* Screen Resolution: 1280*720
* Screen Color Depth: 24 bit
* Screen Size: 4.0 inch
* Display Technology: AMOLED (RGB)
* Thickness: 14.2 mm
* Weight: 150 g
* Input Method: Touch Screen and Slide-out QWERTY Keyboard
* Data Bearers: WLAN IEEE 802.11b/g/n, HSPA+, WCDMA, EGPRS, EDGE
* CPU Type: ARM Cortex-A8
* CPU Clock Rate: 1 GHz
* Graphics Processor: SGX540
* Flash Technology: Adobe Flash 10.1
* Camera Resolution: 4000*3000 (12Mp)
* CMOS Sensor: 1/1.7 inch
* Camera Focal length: 28 mm
* Video Recording Resolution: 1280*720
* Video Recording Frame Rate: 30 fps
* Mass Storage Memory: 64 GB
* NAND Memory: 1 GB
* SDRAM Memory: 512 MB
* Maximum Memory Card Size: 32 GB
* Connectivity: Bluetooth 3.0, HDMI mini C Connector, Micro-USB(OTG), etc
* Battery: 1320 mAh

Which seems better and more likely!

If this is the truth I will pre-order it at first second I see it. But how likely is it that this is true? Someone mentioned that the 800*640 resolution is hard coded at meego. And all those other things just seems to much! Hope I am proven wrong

maemo5 2010-08-24 15:32

Re: New n9 specs from the people with the prototype
 
those specs reminding me netbook specs
i think that it's too high for mobile phone...
and :"ARM Cortex a8?! 1ghz?!
nokia says that even the stock clock speed (n900) is too high!!!!!!

maemo5 2010-08-24 15:34

Re: New n9 specs from the people with the prototype
 
i meant to noknok specs.........:D

Milhouse 2010-08-24 15:38

Re: New n9 specs from the people with the prototype
 
The Snapdragon specs reported by Eldar are complete bullsh1t - probably no surprise given the source.

I've also posted elsewhere that Michael Dallas has confirmed the N9 camera will be 12MP (dual LED) which jives with the second NokNok spec list, which seems far more realistic.

The only interesting item in the second NokNok list is the presence of Bluetooth 3.0 - that would be a major plus for Nokia if they could include that in the N9.

One concern I have about this rampant (and sometimes fanciful) speculation is that once the device finally arrives, some people may actually be disappointed! :)

Dave999 2010-08-24 15:40

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unreal...:eek:

Milhouse 2010-08-24 15:43

Re: New n9 specs from the people with the prototype
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by maemo5 (Post 796958)
those specs reminding me netbook specs
i think that it's too high for mobile phone...
and :"ARM Cortex a8?! 1ghz?!
nokia says that even the stock clock speed (n900) is too high!!!!!!

It doesn't mean it's going to run at 1GHz all the time - having that as the maximum frequency simply means that when required the CPU will run at 1GHz but most of the time it should run a lot slower (and use a lot less power).

Nokia do need to compete on a marketing level with the likes of Qualcomm and Samsung who are both pushing 1GHz CPUs heavily, however the race to even faster clock speeds is pretty futile (much better to create more efficient CPUs that execute more instructions at slower speeds than a current fast CPU, ie. Cortex-A9).

tissot 2010-08-24 15:45

Re: New n9 specs from the people with the prototype
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Milhouse (Post 796967)
The Snapdragon specs reported by Eldar are complete bullsh1t - probably no surprise given the source.

I've also posted elsewhere that Michael Dallas has confirmed the N9 camera will be 12MP (dual LED) which jives with the second NokNok spec list, which seems far more realistic.

The only interesting item in the second NokNok list is the presence of Bluetooth 3.0 - that would be a major plus for Nokia if they could include that in the N9.

One concern I have about this rampant (and sometimes fanciful) speculation is that once the device finally arrives, some people may actually be disappointed! :)

Well N8 also got bluetooth 3.0 so why not. I also got feeling that M-D is right here. He did also get the specs right before we knew pretty much anything about N9. Like qwerty and that it is 4 row, 4" screen, 1320mah battery and N8 like design.

Milhouse 2010-08-24 15:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tissot (Post 796972)
Well N8 also got bluetooth 3.0 so why not. I also got feeling that M-D is right here. He did also get the specs right before we knew pretty much anything about N9. Like qwerty and that it is 4 row, 4" screen, 1320mah battery and N8 like design.

Good point - I thought the N8 still had Bluetooth 2.1, that makes Bluetooth 3.0 even more likely to appear on the N9 giving more credence to the NokNok specs and discrediting further those from Eldar. :)

TheTree 2010-08-24 18:00

Re: New n9 specs from the people with the prototype
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by maemo5 (Post 796958)
those specs reminding me netbook specs
i think that it's too high for mobile phone...
and :"ARM Cortex a8?! 1ghz?!
nokia says that even the stock clock speed (n900) is too high!!!!!!

1 GHz Cortex A8 is the standard for high-end smartphones these days.

Used in:
Nexus One, Samsung Galaxy S, iPhone 4, Dell Streak, Droid X, etc.

shadowjk 2010-08-24 18:30

Re: New n9 specs from the people with the prototype
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by maemo5 (Post 796958)
those specs reminding me netbook specs
i think that it's too high for mobile phone...
and :"ARM Cortex a8?! 1ghz?!
nokia says that even the stock clock speed (n900) is too high!!!!!!

So there are, what, 12 different Omap3 models by now, and each model has like 12 variants.
The one in N900 is 500MHz overdriven to 600MHz. TI has a 720MHz version of the same model.
Now they also have models capable of 1GHz, and shortly after N9 is release they'll probably have a version of that model tat does 1.2 or 1.4.

jnack95 2010-08-24 18:35

Re: New n9 specs from the people with the prototype
 
As far as I know (from wikipedia) none of the OMAP3 chips have sgx540....so I guess it's either a snapdragon or hummingbird?

tissot 2010-08-24 18:40

Re: New n9 specs from the people with the prototype
 
It's not just the mhz(:D).
Galaxy S, Wave probably got the most umph inside from any of the mass production phones. Both use hummingbird.
It's Cortex A8 1Ghz that's 45nm based and SGX540 GPU.

Snapragon that most of the Android phone use is 65nm based and got weaker GPU than OMAP3430 used inside N900 or Droid for example, not to even talk about hummingbird. Snapragon might be the best example of big numbers getting hyped. Like the now cooled down megapixel war with SE, Nokia and Samsung before.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jnack95 (Post 797084)
As far as I know (from wikipedia) none of the OMAP3 chips have sgx540....so I guess it's either a snapdragon or hummingbird?

Or the sgx540 part is just a rumour. ;)

automagic68 2010-08-24 19:04

Re: New n9 specs from the people with the prototype
 
If Hummingbird > Snapdragon then the N9 Flagship better have a Hummingbird. Doesn't Samsung only put Hummingbirds in their Bada devices? Will their Bada devices eventually become Samsung's Flagships?

imperiallight 2010-08-24 19:04

Re: New n9 specs from the people with the prototype
 
Eldar says the price will be 450 Euro or less. Gets more unbelievable by the second.

tissot 2010-08-24 19:10

Re: New n9 specs from the people with the prototype
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by imperiallight (Post 797100)
Eldar says the price will be 450 Euro or less. Gets more unbelievable by the second.

He usually talks about tax free prices(like C7 270 euros). If that's true i would expect ~560 euros at least from the first month looking at example N8.

TheTree 2010-08-24 19:12

Re: New n9 specs from the people with the prototype
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by automagic68 (Post 797107)
If Hummingbird > Snapdragon then the N9 Flagship better have a Hummingbird. Doesn't Samsung only put Hummingbirds in their Bada devices? Will their Bada devices eventually become Samsung's Flagships?

I would be quite surprised to see a Snapdragon in a Samsung device, since Samsung makes Hummingbird, so you're probably correct.

kojacker 2010-08-24 19:12

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Any gossip on the most important feature of all - has this got a magnetometer or not?! ;)

Milhouse 2010-08-24 19:33

Re: New n9 specs from the people with the prototype
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kojacker (Post 797115)
Any gossip on the most important feature of all - has this got a magnetometer or not?! ;)

Yes it has, judging by the Qt bug that have been raised against the QCompass component while testing with an RM-680 device.

edgedemon 2010-08-24 19:39

Re: New n9 specs from the people with the prototype
 
Like the look of the spec list and the geek in me is ready to hit the pre-order button, but the responsible side of me will wait to see how it meego pans out.
If I had to guess, I reckon I will put meego on my n900 and wait to see if it gains mass market acceptance.
I do like my n900, but I have started to see apps for blackberry/andoid/iphone that I want and I know maemo has too small a user base for developers to really get behind it..

mikecomputing 2010-08-24 19:59

Re: New n9 specs from the people with the prototype
 
this looks more and more like a joke??

I mean 1200 px resolution display and 12mpix camera, 1ghz qulcom and 1gb nand??? yeah right.... and some says price 450eur this is not possible...

those specs is 90% ********. with that spec and rumored price no one would buy n8 and instead buy n9 how likely is that??

Now we really need some official statement. we doesn't even now if "rumored phone" even will be released.

Below is more normal spec as I see it:

Around 900mpix display
512 MB nand
512 MB sdram.
32mb eemc.
8mpix camera
hopefully bt v3
hopefully nfc?
omap cortex A8

shadowjk 2010-08-24 20:11

Re: New n9 specs from the people with the prototype
 
There wont be an official statement until there's an official announcement. Speculation is a fun sport, but it's not going to yield any hard facts.

raptoro07 2010-08-24 20:24

Re: New n9 specs from the people with the prototype
 
N900 uses OMAP 3430 which is 65nm and clocked to 600mhz. TI lists 650mhz as top for this one. OMAP 36XX series are 45nm Cortex A8 in which TI says OMAP 3640 can clock to 1.2ghz. Most likely N9 will be a OMAP 36XX model as OMAP 4XXX (which are Cortex-A9) will not be coming out till early 2012.

Milhouse 2010-08-24 20:32

Re: New n9 specs from the people with the prototype
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 797160)
Around 900mpix display

What resolution would that give? An 800x480 screen is only 384K pixels...

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 797160)
512 MB nand
512 MB sdram.
32mb eemc.
8mpix camera
hopefully bt v3
hopefully nfc?
omap cortex A8

You're probably closer to the mark, although a 12MP camera module is entirely possible considering it's already on the N8. The N9 needs to be pretty much everything the N8 is, and then improve on it where possible. Launching the N9 with inferior hardware to the mid-range Symbian based N8 would get MeeGo off to a very poor start, IMHO.

Using the 12MP camera module in the N9 may also make sense financially (after all Nokia are already buying millions for the N8) and Nokia have put in a considerable amount of effort in order to get stunning pictures and 720p video from the N8's 12MP sensor - using that knowledge in MeeGo shouldn't be too difficult.

Bluetooth 2.1 on the N9 would be another backward step when the N8 already has BT3.0, so why do it? The N9 must have BT3.0, nothing else makes sense.

512MB NAND (double the N900) and using the same optify trick to use some of the 32GB flash for app storage would be fine with me. 512MB SDRAM would be essential as 256MB is probably only just enough on the N900 - 1GB SDRAM is probably excessive and may have a negative impact on battery lifetime.

And since the N900 is the reference platform for MeeGo it makes no sense to target anything other than OMAP3/Cortex-A8.

optimistprime 2010-08-24 20:35

Re: New n9 specs from the people with the prototype
 
Boy, was this thread title misleading....What a wasted couple of minutes I couldve spent downloading robot pron. Sheesh.

SR90 2010-08-24 20:44

Re: New n9 specs from the people with the prototype
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by optimistprime (Post 797206)
Boy, was this thread title misleading....What a wasted couple of minutes I couldve spent downloading robot pron. Sheesh.

Looooooool :p:D

maxximuscool 2010-08-24 20:51

Re: New n9 specs from the people with the prototype
 
* Battery: 1320 mAh <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<THIS LEAVING ME SCRATCHING MY HEAD

mikecomputing 2010-08-24 21:15

Re: New n9 specs from the people with the prototype
 
btw about bluetooth v3 and n8 are we sure about this?

I dont say people are wrong about this but could find info about it on european nokia site on n8 specs?

hope it is correct cause BT v3 will save some power too if I remember right :)

NvyUs 2010-08-24 21:19

Re: New n9 specs from the people with the prototype
 
N8 100% as Bluetooth 3 so i expect nothing less on N9
http://europe.nokia.com/find-product...specifications

automagic68 2010-08-24 21:19

Re: New n9 specs from the people with the prototype
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by maxximuscool (Post 797223)
* Battery: 1320 mAh <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<THIS LEAVING ME SCRATCHING MY HEAD

Maybe MeeGo is a lot lighter than we think ie; not only an improvement of Maemo5 but also a lot of "clean up" might have been done with the code to make it a more streamlined OS in the same way Symbian^3 is cleaner than S60? Maemo development has worked in steps which each showing major improvements over previous releases, hopefully more has been done than what is perceived as just a name change from Maemo6 to MeeGo and making the UI "prettier" and adding QT.

tissot 2010-08-24 21:24

Re: New n9 specs from the people with the prototype
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 797247)
btw about bluetooth v3 and n8 are we sure about this?

I dont say people are wrong about this but could find info about it on european nokia site on n8 specs?

hope it is correct cause BT v3 will save some power too if I remember right :)

Nokia forum is the place where you always find the whole official spec list.
http://www.forum.nokia.com/Devices/D...ifications/N8/
It's under connectivity.

fahadj2003 2010-08-24 22:38

Re: New n9 specs from the people with the prototype
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by automagic68 (Post 797250)
Maybe MeeGo is a lot lighter than we think ie; not only an improvement of Maemo5 but also a lot of "clean up" might have been done with the code to make it a more streamlined OS in the same way Symbian^3 is cleaner than S60? Maemo development has worked in steps which each showing major improvements over previous releases, hopefully more has been done than what is perceived as just a name change from Maemo6 to MeeGo and making the UI "prettier" and adding QT.

meego looks too pretty to consume less power
besides, i dun think meego has much to do with power consumption
at stock, all os consume almost the same power
the widgets and stuff later on cause the battery issues and 1300mah is too less
experienced it with n900 -__-

NvyUs 2010-08-24 22:46

Re: New n9 specs from the people with the prototype
 
in MeeGo i believe lot of work is offloaded to GPU which should save battery.
Amoled is less power consuming and so is BT3
so compared to N900 there is 3 battery saving Advantages listed already and we don't even know everything about N9.

automagic68 2010-08-24 23:23

Re: New n9 specs from the people with the prototype
 
Android seems to chug battery power even with 2.2's improvemnets so energy/battery efficiency is definetly based on the OS with Blackberry and Symbian being the most effiecient.

maxximuscool 2010-08-24 23:54

Re: New n9 specs from the people with the prototype
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NvyUs (Post 797306)
in MeeGo i believe lot of work is offloaded to GPU which should save battery.
Amoled is less power consuming and so is BT3
so compared to N900 there is 3 battery saving Advantages listed already and we don't even know everything about N9.

Yet we don't have those information confirmed. It is a matter of WHAT IF?
Super AMOLED = Good
AMOLED = Average
LCD = errr
TFT LCD = ERRR
Capacitive Multitouch = Yes
Resistive Multitouch = Hmm Okay
Resistive = ERRRR

It is possible that this state that we don't have a clear confirmation with regards to this so called N9 is the real deal and hardware specs is still below Nokia skirt hidden behind its underwear.

One most importantly will MeeGo ever reach "Successful" state in 6months to 1year? Any OS that won't reach it's popularity (at least a million sold both Nokia and Intel total) in 6months then will pretty much won't be in a year. Android reached its popularity slowly but after 6months their sell rising up dramatically. Not to mention IOS2, it sold more than 1million uni in just 6month and rapidily gaining in number.

So the question is will anyone risk another 600pounds, $650euro, $700USD, or %1300NZD for a company well known to abandoning its newly released device 6months after? Not to mention no applications in the Ovi Store, and very buggy app store.

maxximuscool 2010-08-25 00:00

Re: New n9 specs from the people with the prototype
 
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Quote:

Originally Posted by automagic68 (Post 797333)
Android seems to chug battery power even with 2.2's improvemnets so energy/battery efficiency is definetly based on the OS with Blackberry and Symbian being the most effiecient.

I'm sure you're wrong.
If you meant the most efficient OS ever then you got to credit the VIVID black and yellow screen. The most simple OS ever, the size is less than 0.5mb lol.
Fact I don't even know the name of its OS!


This thing last a week with heavily use without the need of recharge!

wmarone 2010-08-25 00:03

Re: New n9 specs from the people with the prototype
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by maxximuscool (Post 797358)
This thing last a week with heavily use without the need of recharge!

It also did very little, and when not transmitting sat asleep 90% of the time. It's amazing the battery life you can get out of a device when you reduce its capabilities and carefully design its operational envelope.

Smartphones are expected to have a much wider range of capabilities, the N900 in particular is expected to be PC-level. If I cut off data services and let it sit unused 90% of the time, I'd get tons of battery life out of my N900. Isn't that defeating the purpose of getting one?

bugelrex 2010-08-25 00:15

Re: New n9 specs from the people with the prototype
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fahadj2003 (Post 797300)
meego looks too pretty to consume less power
besides, i dun think meego has much to do with power consumption
at stock, all os consume almost the same power
the widgets and stuff later on cause the battery issues and 1300mah is too less
experienced it with n900 -__-

whats shocking is Nokia developed a brand new battery and made it only ~1300mAh when they already have the best OEM battery on the market from the E72 1500 mAh.

Battery drain mostly from 3G cellular data, the best way to relieve this would be a bigger battery in N9.. they obviously dont care about one of the top N900 complaints..


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