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lemmyslender 2011-09-05 22:56

Re: The Epic Android Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by danramos (Post 1082193)
Here's a nice desktop image for anyone interested... ;)
http://pleco.org/heh/Apple%20-%20Why%20Innovate.png

My new wallpaper on my Transformer. :)

frostbyte 2011-09-06 00:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lemmyslender (Post 1082551)
My new wallpaper on my Transformer. :)

+1

Still trying to get a handle of my Ubuntu Unity desktop, luckily I have this image to take me back to the comfort zone :)

Oh what the he||, might as well throw it on my HTC G2 while I'm at it.


edit: I've just realized I've distanced myself from the "superuser" with my now-shelved N900 and Arch Linux, and immersed myself in the masses of Android and Ubuntu. I feel kind of dirty, but man does life feel easy!

danramos 2011-09-06 02:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by frostbyte (Post 1082578)
+1

Still trying to get a handle of my Ubuntu Unity desktop, luckily I have this image to take me back to the comfort zone :)

Oh what the he||, might as well throw it on my HTC G2 while I'm at it.


edit: I've just realized I've distanced myself from the "superuser" with my now-shelved N900 and Arch Linux, and immersed myself in the masses of Android and Ubuntu. I feel kind of dirty, but man does life feel easy!

Yeah... I started out feeling that way too... eventually, though, you start forgetting about how Android isn't supposed to be Linux and this and that and the other thing and you get back to actually DOING things and actually hacking/customizing/coding again. :)

railroadmaster 2011-09-06 03:56

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Honeycomb for the HTC Flyer has been leaked in full. According to the folks at XDA devs the nav buttons are dimmed out completely except for the pen button, the stylus can apparently be used anywhere and of course all of the usual goodies of Honeycomb like two pane desktop style apps. Cheers :)
User Interface Screenshots
http://www.androidcentral.com/first-...c-flyer-emerge
Technical details
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...1246430&page=8

railroadmaster 2011-09-06 04:31

Re: The Epic Android Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by railroadmaster (Post 1082609)
Honeycomb for the HTC Flyer has been leaked in full. According to the folks at XDA devs the nav buttons are dimmed out completely except for the pen button, the stylus can apparently be used anywhere and of course all of the usual goodies of Honeycomb like two pane desktop style apps. Cheers :)
User Interface Screenshots
http://www.androidcentral.com/first-...c-flyer-emerge
Technical details
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...1246430&page=8

I know what I want for my birthday.

noal 2011-09-06 15:40

Re: The Epic Android Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by railroadmaster (Post 1082619)
I know what I want for my birthday.

If the price is right I may get one for my girlfriend.
The price for the original Flyer seems to be holding out better than I thought!

mscion 2011-09-06 16:10

Re: The Epic Android Thread
 
I do not know if this has been noted here yet but I see that there is an application to install Debian on Android. I'd like to know if anyone has had any success with it or would try it and comment.

Here is a link

http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...php?p=16961006


Thanks.

railroadmaster 2011-09-07 00:32

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Well the wait for the very premium and very pricey jetstream is over. This review from mobile tech review really shows off HTC Sense on Honeycomb I'm really digging the customization's.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEsAj...layer_embedded

frostbyte 2011-09-07 03:43

Re: The Epic Android Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mscion (Post 1082927)
I do not know if this has been noted here yet but I see that there is an application to install Debian on Android. I'd like to know if anyone has had any success with it or would try it and comment.

Here is a link

http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...php?p=16961006


Thanks.

Might be slightly off topic, but cool nevertheless, VMware's virtualization

railroadmaster 2011-09-07 03:54

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Hey guys I'm currently in the process of compiling VLC for Android, I hope everything goes well. If I have a successful compiled binary for VLC-Android well I'll post it here so you guys can save yourself the time of doing all the pain in the ***** procedure of making the binary yourself. If you are feeling saavy well you can do it yourself with the instructions found here. Chow :D
http://wiki.videolan.org/AndroidCompile

Cue 2011-09-07 16:09

Re: The Epic Android Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by frostbyte (Post 1083255)
Might be slightly off topic, but cool nevertheless, VMware's virtualization

*clears throat*
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNo6pn-dnSQ

Doubt it :D

Snoshrk 2011-09-07 22:06

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Yeah!

If you use an "envelopes" style budget...

YNAB finally has an android app

daperl 2011-09-08 04:48

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The plot thickens:

Latest filings in Oracle patent case spell trouble for Google

wmarone 2011-09-08 05:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by daperl (Post 1083977)

ZDnet's over the top interpretation of the Powerpoint slide is quite amusing, and Florian's bloviating about bullet point 2 is just stupid. It reveals nothing we haven't known for ages.

It is handy to point at and say "this is why I don't participate in the Android world" however.

danramos 2011-09-08 05:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by wmarone (Post 1083994)
ZDnet's over the top interpretation of the Powerpoint slide is quite amusing, and Florian's bloviating about bullet point 2 is just stupid. It reveals nothing we haven't known for ages.

It is handy to point at and say "this is why I don't participate in the Android world" however.

Hasn't ZDnet effectively become the new Sun supermarket tabloid for technology? I can't even describe it as a tabloid for geeks because it just makes them roll their eyes all the time.

wmarone 2011-09-08 06:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by danramos (Post 1083997)
Hasn't ZDnet effectively become the new Sun supermarket tabloid for technology? I can't even describe it as a tabloid for geeks because it just makes them roll their eyes all the time.

Pretty much. Once Upon A Time it was a good magazine, but it's just an ad-filled pit these days.

I am more bothered by Florian getting press though.

danramos 2011-09-08 06:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by wmarone (Post 1084001)
Pretty much. Once Upon A Time it was a good magazine, but it's just an ad-filled pit these days.

I am more bothered by Florian getting press though.

Honestly, I think it changed for the worse once Rupert Murdock bought out Ziff-Davis Publishing and then changed its whole personality from a publication that hobbyists and professionals liked... to a commercial, lame-brained, dumbed-down publication that feels like it's aimed at over-hyping toward executives and middle-managers--but that's just my impression. Most of the best people from those old days are still around elsewhere doing FAR better--but what a shame that the best talent USED to all come from there. Feh.

wmarone 2011-09-08 06:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by danramos (Post 1084007)
Honestly, I think it changed for the worse once Rupert Murdock bought out Ziff-Davis Publishing

Wait, wait. Rupert bought out Ziff-Davis?

I must have missed that. Say no more then.

danramos 2011-09-08 07:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by wmarone (Post 1084009)
Wait, wait. Rupert bought out Ziff-Davis?

I must have missed that. Say no more then.

I could be wrong but I clearly remember ZDTV being a Rupert Murdoch asset... and I thought the magazine was too--seems like maybe I was right?
http://ecommerce.hostip.info/pages/1...Davis-Inc.html

At any rate... yeah.. would solve THAT mystery, wouldn't it?

danramos 2011-09-09 22:14

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Netflix is officially available for all Android 2.2, and 2.3 devices
http://www.androidcentral.com/netfli...ning-22-and-23
MARKET LINK: http://market.android.com/details?id...ix.mediaclient
http://chart.apis.google.com/chart?c...ix.mediaclient

http://cdn.androidcentral.com/sites/...ix_android.png

It's about damned time, already. Might be too late for them to save themselves from the droves of angry people that either left or are thinking of leaving because of their price hikes and faltering deals (like Starz). This one was stupid, knuckle-dragging DRM garbage, though.

I can confirm that it launches and plays fullscreen streaming video on both my Motorola Droid (which it already did, on Gingerbread, Android 2.3.4) and now also on my Samsung Galaxy Tab (running Froyo, Android 2.2).

I do notice a LOT of stuttering if you try to use bluetooth audio--perhaps they need to increase the video streaming buffer size so that the wifi streaming processing isn't interfering with the bluetooth streaming processing? Dunno--but on the whole, works great and looks great on my 480x854 Droid, looks only just "decent" on my 1024x600 Samsung Galaxy Tab (the higher resolution and larger screen naturally seems to bring out the blocky imperfections)--certainly more than good enough to watch something on-the-go.

railroadmaster 2011-09-11 19:20

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Some HTC Jetstream sample video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQ6WIg_P8Fk
All I can say is wow that looks amazing but it must be awkward to hold that thing for video recording.

danramos 2011-09-12 08:41

Re: The Epic Android Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by railroadmaster (Post 1086382)
Some HTC Jetstream sample video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQ6WIg_P8Fk
All I can say is wow that looks amazing but it must be awkward to hold that thing for video recording.

Looks like it has a liiiiitlle bit of a problem with exposure levels. Maybe a little color-bleed too--but that might just be the video codec effect. I'm not impressed, but it seems to do 1080p alright.

kattyjames111 2011-09-14 07:27

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Hi
can any of you suggest me which tab will be the best one at present. i have the option of Samsung and Nokia.

danramos 2011-09-14 12:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kattyjames111 (Post 1087977)
Hi
can any of you suggest me which tab will be the best one at present. i have the option of Samsung and Nokia.

When you say "Tab", do you mean the generic term tablet? If so, Samsung is the only one making tablets anymore, of the two, and then is the only one that has so far made tablets with screens of 7-inches and larger. Or, are you referring to the Samsung Tab brand--in which case, only Samsung makes Galaxy Tab branded devices.

In either case, right now you can only purchase a Samsung "Tab". Amongst the Samsung Brands, there are a bunch that will be available and already a few different models available now. What were you looking for in a tablet? Since you mentioned Nokia, was there something there that caught your attention that we should be aware of when we consider your question?

railroadmaster 2011-09-15 00:07

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Here is a cool video I found showing you how to more productive, IMO I think I finally see the point in having a back camera on tablet. Anyways a tablet makes the perfect document scanner
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82Z2JvzBtB4

danramos 2011-09-15 02:31

Re: The Epic Android Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by railroadmaster (Post 1088605)
Here is a cool video I found showing you how to more productive, IMO I think I finally see the point in having a back camera on tablet. Anyways a tablet makes the perfect document scanner
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82Z2JvzBtB4

Used to do that ages ago with my Droid (which has a better camera than the Galaxy Tab for resolution)... and on BOTH devices, it's not as good as he pretends it to be for faxing. The resolution and contrast ratio of the photos is... meh. It still doesn't replace a good, real FAX machine or, better still, a real image scanner on a computer. (Also note: The guy in that video is VERY awkward at addressing his audience and showing this stuff. LOTS of video problems. Kind of annoying to watch him.) :P heh

PS: Did he REALLY say 'voice recognization' ?? Heheh... oh God. :)

Maybe the FaxCam needs a much better camera--or better still, somebody will make a real honest-to-God bluetooth page scanner device someday.

Kangal 2011-09-15 03:40

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Gotta agree it is mediocre at best.
And most of the time it is below average, which means it is a good photo but a horrible photocopy (fax/document). There's just not enough dedicated pixels to render them properly.

The only good feature is Google Documents, which can detect and convert the washed out letters into words. But with 12MP 1080p Nokia N8 quality cameras, and a better (app) implementation... I think we can have a (decent) mobile scanner.

Reminds me of my All-in-One Lexmark that used to automatically scan documents into Word, including logo's which would just be pictures and would put them into the right spot of the .doc something like that would be cool to have on a (Android) tablet (7in?)

danramos 2011-09-16 00:36

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Samsung Overtakes Apple in Smartphone Sales [Europe]

From the article:
According to IDC, Samsung has surpassed Apple in European smartphone sales by shipping 4.8 Million units, compared to Apple’s 4.6M units. Samsung had a strong momentum before, but clearly, the Samsung Galaxy S2 should get the credit for this.

Beyond the Samsung/Apple fight, Android has indeed been the number one in terms of overall market share, and there is probably nothing that Apple can do as the iPhone 5 is unlikely to change the trend. The loser in the story? Nokia. Despite a historical strength in that Market, Nokia’s market share is quickly eroding – now the jump to Windows Phone 7 is more than ever a “do-or-die” for the company.

Source: http://www.ubergizmo.com/2011/09/sam...-sales-europe/

gerbick 2011-09-16 21:20

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Anonymous 4chan user hands on with Nexus Prime

Quote:

- The SGN will run on Samsung’s Exynos dual core CPU clocked at 1.5GHz, 1gb RAM, Super AMOLED Plus 4.65 inch 1280x720 HD display, 16gb internal memory (with sd card slot) is 8.8mm thick, metal body and a 2000mAh battery (the same as the new one that’s being released for the Galaxy S II).
Seriously? Holy damn.

danramos 2011-09-16 22:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 1089737)

That pretty much agrees with everything I've already read before, yup.

railroadmaster 2011-09-17 18:24

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Hey guys I got Android x86 running on my netbook and with Gingerbread it works very smoothly though I still have problems with wireless maybe I will post a video about it.

frostbyte 2011-09-17 18:43

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Very cool. What netbook do you have?

I have an Acer AOA150 currently serving as a testbed, so I might just try Androidx86 on it.


edit: Any other issues besides wireless? Webcam, SD card reader (if you have one), touchpad etc?

railroadmaster 2011-09-17 18:55

Re: The Epic Android Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by frostbyte (Post 1090380)
Very cool. What netbook do you have?

I have an Acer AOA150 currently serving as a testbed, so I might just try Androidx86 on it.


edit: Any other issues besides wireless? Webcam, SD card reader (if you have one), touchpad etc?

Sd card reader usb host work just fine and I think the webcam does work.

frostbyte 2011-09-17 19:38

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Installed it on my Acer, as easy of an installation as with any mainstream distros.

UI is exactly like vanilla Android on a phone; feels snappy all around, I liked the mouse right-click to go back in app drawer/menu.

Wireless did not work as expected. My ethernet port is inop so don't know if there is/was a way to establish a cable connection.

Main problem was screensaver; as the screen times out, the normal lock screen would appear, but this would eventually crash my Acer.

All in all, a fun 10-15 mins, but I think I'll go back to a conventional distro.

railroadmaster 2011-09-17 21:03

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OK here is a video of Android running on my Netbook. It is an HP Mini 210 with an Intel Atom 1.6ghz single core and 1gb of ram. In order for this to work you need to download Unetbootin and http://code.google.com/p/android-x86/downloads and download the Gingerbread eeepc build. You need a USB drive which you will use as a bootdisk and second external storage device which will store downloaded files, you need this if you want to downloads applications. At boot up select vesa mode to avoid graphical issues. Anyways things I notice are very smooth animations, portrait mode issues, app incompatibility, and lack of support for wireless
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrPDiwdFJDo

Kangal 2011-09-17 23:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 1089737)
" - The SGN will run on Samsung’s Exynos dual core CPU clocked at 1.5GHz, 1gb RAM, Super AMOLED Plus 4.65 inch 1280x720 HD display, 16gb internal memory (with sd card slot) is 8.8mm thick, metal body and a 2000mAh battery (the same as the new one that’s being released for the Galaxy S II "


Anonymous 4chan user hands on with Nexus Prime
Seriously? Holy damn.

Everything sounds awesome, except a few things.
1- An SD card is faster, larger storage, and cheaper than microSD ... I really hope they add it!!!
2- The phone is small, I was hoping for something closer to 4.7". It is actually 4.3" because remember the thick notification bar/navigational buttons will be on-screen and take the place where the navigational (back, home, menu) were on other devices. It's like a tall Nexus S, just as confirmed.

danramos 2011-09-17 23:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kangal (Post 1090641)
Everything sounds awesome, except a few things.
1- An SD card is faster, larger storage, and cheaper than microSD ... I really hope they add it!!!
2- The phone is small, I was hoping for something closer to 4.7". It is actually 4.3" because remember the thick notification bar/navigational buttons will be on-screen and take the place where the navigational (back, home, menu) were on other devices. It's like a tall Nexus S, just as confirmed.

1) microSD cards can be (and are sometimes) faster than their equivalent SD cards that aren't rated to be any faster. Take a look at results from running 'SD Tools'... I, for example, just ordered a 32GB Class 10 microSD for my Galaxy Tab to use to replace the 16GB Class 2 I've been using all along. It will EASILY run at least as well as even the other Class 10 full size SD cards I have. Whether a microSD is faster or slower isn't related to its form micro vs full form factor--objective benchmarks prove that they're just as varied as the full size cards--from very slow to turbo fast.

2) ...Except when they aren't there--and that's the important thing. For Honeycomb/Ice Cream Sandwich aware games and for full screen video, those on-screen controls will not be there until it detects a touch near the controls areas to wake those widgets back up. (If you've used Honeycomb before, you know what I'm talking about... if you've never used it before, check it out in the store sometime on a Honeycomb running tablet... go ahead and full-screen a video or something.)

ysss 2011-09-18 05:10

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Samsung Galaxy S 8GB 5" WIFI on woot today, $169.99 (+$5 shipping)

http://sale.images.woot.com/Samsung_...ixStandard.jpg

http://www.woot.com

frostbyte 2011-09-18 06:14

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Daumn! Not that I'm buying one, but holy sphinx! Puts the N9 specs/price into perspective...

Kangal 2011-09-18 06:33

Re: The Epic Android Thread
 
I dont have any HC devices, but I've used them in-store. I haven't ever noticed the buttons/bar disappearing in any apps, inc the browser.
It sounds like a recipe for disaster when you have to actuate a press to get the buttons to appear, especially if you accidentally hit something unwanted or more-often-than-not your empty trigger will automatically register an object close to it... because Android is like that sometimes.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ysss (Post 1090823)
Samsung Galaxy S 8GB 5" WIFI on woot today, $169.99 (+$5 shipping)

http://sale.images.woot.com/Samsung_...ixStandard.jpg

http://www.woot.com

It would be good if Samsung added the 5MP shooter from the original SGS and the phone radio frequencies and sold it for $199 instead. Still waiting for Galaxy Note or Galaxy Prime, here.


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