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nooo cc

i read your stuff constantly !

oh well gl in your endeavours anyway :)

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Hey Dan!

Is this a good result on Quadrant?

http://i.imgur.com/7jBw1.png

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Wow! I remember Sage TV! It was REALLY slick, even way back when it was HARD to find a good piece of DVR software on even DEDICATED devices made to be used as DVR's. VERY good for Android and Google TV! I wonder how the TV execs will react to this? They were already flipping raged over the current Google TV. Myopic mental midgets that they are, they prefer to deny customers content the way they want it, WHEN they want it and pine for the 80's style TV schedules and Nielson ratings. :P

I absolutely, 100% chalk it up to the app developers, although I'm not necessarily convinced that they're lazy so much as maybe in need of learning good ol' "best practices." This is just like the early days of web page development--where you had people who INSISTED that their website was best viewed at high resolutions... and then other people who coded their websites to automatically re-flow and adjust to just about any sane resolution. I actually keep a placemarker webpage at my website (http://pleco.org) that I designed/wrote in vi (a notepad-like plain-text editor) but I wrote it "properly" to flow and readjust itself well... I even hyper-optimized each and every image on the page so that it loads fast even on a lowly 1200 baud modem. The result is a web page that, even today, looks pretty simple but good--well formatted--and even looks great on a tiny 320x240 screen. (I've tried loading it up on every web browser you can imagine.. even on my mom's old PalmOne Zire z72, my Palm Tungstun T5, and my old Atari 800XL with Contiki. Basically, app designers CAN do things the quick and dirty way and make it look right on certain hardware, or do it the RIGHT WAY (giving up nothing except discipline) and get the same results all across the board on all hardware. There's really no good excuse.

For the record, MOST things look GREAT on my Galaxy Tab with very few exceptions--and those few are obvious in that they either revert to a teeny screen inside my giant tablet interface (to emulate a phone-sized screen) or else I see mis-shapen objects/icons... which is UNFORGIVABLE because they're clearly using a full capable SDK version (if it doesn't revert to a small screen, it's because they're using a newer SDK) but they're still manually and recklessly coding their UI to a teeny screen device instead of formatting things in a smart way and letting the OS handle it FOR them regardless of the screen dimension and DPI.

That's my experience and understanding, anyway. YMMV

What's the matter Colonel Sanders? Chicken? :)

Dude--keep in touch! I knew this was going to happen one way or another and it's a shame. Where can I find you hanging out socially?? If nothing else, friend me up on the Facebook thing. ;)

Guilty as charged. :) I hope it's been a pleasure for everyone that's joined me on this trip with the Tab! I know I'm STILL finding new and incredible things to do with tit. Here.. take a look at THESE cool and crazy things I've been playing with lately!! Let's see an N900 do this stuff that even my old Motorola Droid and Galaxy Tab can handily do thanks to ongoing excellent platform support:

PhotoFunia
Video demo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEzHnPJWx7A

PhotoFunia is a photo editing tool that gives you a fun filled experience. Put your face on a billboard, a stamp, or in a Warhol-like work of pop-art. Become the Mona Lisa or a bodybuilder. You get over 150 scenes to play with. You're not cutting and pasting; instead, the app "finds" the face in your photo and integrates it with the scene of your choice.

http://www.gstatic.com/android/marke...f9baf6fe4d2061

and
Postagram

Postagram prints and ships your photos to friends and family as real postcards. Postagram makes it easy to send a printed photo in the mail to yourself, friends or family anywhere in the world. Take a shot with the app or use photos from your photo library or Facebook.

You can also print your photos right from galleries and albums such as: QuickPic, picplz, PicsIn and pho.to.


You can use Postagram to print from your favorite photo editor and effects apps like: PicSay, Vignette, Camera360, Touchnote, Postdroid, FxCamera, Postino, Shoot it!, Camera Zoom FX, Retro Camera and PhotoFunia.

http://gstatic.com/android/market/co...9088c7fe195e24

There... some more things to get addicted to. ENJOY! ;)

How do you figure the N900 isn't losing as much value as these other devices? Given the very high platform support for new OS's, even from the community if not the manufacturers, even on stuff as old as the Motorola Droid, and considering how dramatic the price dropped on the N900's almost immediately out of the gate, I can't necessarily agree. Are you basing this on some specific criteria or some "bluebook" type of value system? Near as I can tell, people are still buying up LOTS of the old Android devices so that they can hack OS's onto them (I'm not sure I'll ever end up completely giving up on my Motorola Droid for the solid reliability of hacking on it--even if I got a new phone to replace it someday or switched carriers).

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You're an arse and I still hate you. ;) :D

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n9 is a total letdown - i will be joining the android camp once I find a good phone with a hardware keyboard (sorry desire z sux)

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Any particular ones you were looking for? If it helps, take a look over this list maybe: http://blogandroid.com/the-best-qwer...1-compared-38/

The nice thing about the Android platform (vs the Nokia's experience, or even the Apple iP* experience) is that at least you can buy your apps, switch phones and pick and choose your carrier and hardware manufacturer. So, welcome aboard and I hope you find something great that fits you! At least on the Android side you'll have a better chance of it. Let me know if there's anything I can point out to help, if I can.

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LOL!

That score is not mine, but I will install the same ROM and OC Kernel soon :D

I also read somewhere that Honeycomb 3.2 is coming soon.
EDIT:

Here:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/06...ixes-and-more/

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Looks like Peggle is out for Android and it's the free app of the day on Amazon!
http://www.amazon.com/PopCap-Games-I.../dp/B0055OQCZI
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...500_AA300_.jpg

Word of warning--if you try to "buy" it on some devices (Galaxy Tab, Transformer, etc.), you'll get an obnoxious denial to even so much as read or look at pictures of this app in the Amazon App Store itself, where it claims that this app is incompatible. I managed to get it installed on my Samsung Galaxy Tab by first going to the Amazon web site to click on the button to buy it for free, then went back to the Amazon app store on my Galaxy Tab, tapped the MENU button to choose MY APPS, where it shows up under the "New' tab. It installs only over wifi, but installs just fine and runs fine for me.

That all aside, though, I've played Peggle on my Xbox 360 and on my Nintendo DSi before, but this Android version feels a little sloppy (the opening dialog asking for username is blank, the music doesn't loop properly--it plays out and fades, then restarts--as if it's repeatedly playing an audio track that fades at the end). Otherwise, gameplay works great, zoom-in works great, etc. I don't understand why it's been blocked from installing on a bunch of systems that clearly are able to run it just fine. (another fellow with an Asus eee Transformer in another review had the exact same problem and suggested that way around the block that I described earlier.) Am I overlooking some detail as to why we're being denied this from these devices?

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While discussions on the N9[50] go on, I'm having an enormous fun with the Galaxy Tab. Weren't for that bad feeling of havinf transitated to the dark side of the force, it would be perfect. I've got also quickly accustomed to the on-screen-keyboard - btw I'm using quite a complete one, Hacker's keyboard: http://market.android.com/details?id...ion.pckeyboard

And I have discovered a set of programs that work very well in doing the same things I am used to do on my N900:

Visual task switcher free, which has more or less the same feeling of the maemo5 dashboard, albeit static - and works in an easier way than itching thumb: http://market.android.com/details?id...e.taskswitcher

Ezpdf reader, which annotates pdf files like Xournal: http://market.android.com/details?id=udk.android.reader

AllAppsOrganizer, which allows separate your program icons into logical groups, and is well configurable: http://market.android.com/details?id...OrganizerPlusB

TouchRetouch, an almost miracle program to delete parts of a photo, which reconstructs the background automagically: http://market.android.com/details?id...t.touchretouch

Jota text editor, which is a good asciii editor allowing regexp search/replace: http://market.android.com/details?id...o.pandora.jota

Document scanner, which takes photos of documents and straightens them like Front View from maemo5, but also tweaks them well in greyscale or b/w and outputs in pdf: http://market.android.com/details?id...ocumentscanner

I still miss Comboy or any Tomboy notes browser & editor (there is Tomdroid notes but is read-only by now).
That, and I want Easy Debian on the Tab.

But the most important thing is I actually can read, can use it with my normal glasses without having to pull them out and keep the display at 10 cm from my nose!

I understand my enthusiasm now might feel noobish, I know, but... :) I hd just tolet you know I'm just in astate of silly geeky happiness :)

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Dude--right there with you, trust me. :) I hadn't been this happy with a purchase since my N800 years ago. I wish Nokia didn't screw up their 'Internet Tablet" strategy to instead go for another iPhone competitor "me too!" handset. Nokia COULD have had a whole other market segment that they were already ahead of to fall back on now that their phones are falling out of popularity. But I digress, at least Android has the benefit of a diversity of manufacturers competing amongst themselves to keep things fresh and churning innovation. We can see how that lack of competition has begun backfiring on Apple and is rapidly killing Nokia.

Congrats on joining the Android army, lad! We can only help each other to make it that much better. Speaking of which--I've never seen that hacker's keyboard before... and I loooooove it. THANKS!

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Installed Hacker's keyboard today... It's sweeeeet!!!

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It works. I just... works! I get an ESCAPE key that actually works in a terminal.. a control key that actually does CONTRL+letters, etc. Why the hell doesn't the bluetooth HID profile for keyboards do this??

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Guys i need a app which shows me my cpu and battery usage in a graph even if the app isn't active.something like batterygraph for maemo.
Any hints?
Regards

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The android substitute for battery graph is... battery graph :)
http://market.android.com/details?id...odroid.battery

I don't have an advice for cpu. On the Tab, there is a Samsung widget which reports processess tooo cpu-hungry, and is enough for me.

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Just thought I'd throw this out there for all the nethack fans. I enjoyed playing on my N900 every now and again. I didn't find nethack on android to be very easy to play. Just found this one on the market yesterday. Looks fairly new, and plays fairly easily. Customizable too.

I'll even throw in a different battery widget. It will give you a graph and an estimate of time remaining based on current activity (also time remain to full charge). Free version works pretty well, only $1.50 for the full version.

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Been using htc sensation for a week or so.

While playing an mp3 using either the stock htc sense audio player or doubletwist, a call comes through. I answer the call. The audio pauses. I hang up the call. The audio resumes but soulds mono and muffled like a very bad quality mp3 rip. This not just for the audio from the mediaplayers, it is all alerts/ notifications.

Anyone have any experience/ resolution with this issue?
Corrupt audio drivers? Faulty unit?

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Suddenly this thread is like a ghost town. I guess that's what happens when the chief ghost leaves town.

Here's what I've come to hate about Android.

Virtually no programming. I decided to look for script programming languages to mess around with while using my tablet.

No Ruby, even. None of the usual suspects.

Why is that? Maybe my particular tablet is out of the programming loop?

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You mean like this? http://code.google.com/p/android-scripting/

You'll note the environment supports Perl and Ruby, both, as well as others. I thought we'd already talked about this aaaaaaages ago.

I've never run into that before--but then I'm usually listening to podcasts, but you make it sound like it's not any one player. Is this happening just when you're using bluetooth A2DP then answer a call using bluetooth and go back again? Or is this with headphones? How are you using it? I'm curious to see if I can replicate it on my phone.

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Oh yeah, I actually had that installed in my Android device for a while.

Not exactly like installing Ruby on my N900, though, which was just a matter of clicking on debs and installing them, then running programs. I'll look more carefully, thanks.

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I am using regular wired headphones through the 3.5mm jack. Bluetooth is off.

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Okay, so someone gifted me their old Droid (The Original(TM)) and I'm loving it.

The Original Droid is apparently underpowered by today's standards, but it works well. The first thing I did was put CM7 on it and then I dinked around for a day and a half, then danramos told me to do V6SuperCharge. That, combined with going back to the 'stock' theme, has made it much snappier. So for the last couple of days I've been playing with it, using the built-in SIP client, installing some apps, playing with the maps, etc. I'm seriously considering using it as my main phone.

Too bad it doesn't do true multi-tasking like Maemo. Too bad it doesn't have 32GB AND the microSD like the N900.

The thing that struck me most about the Droid over the N900 is the phone. I had gotten used to the N900's crappy phone program and didn't even know it was crappy.

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n9 is here. Android is dead. Just want to give you heads up ;)

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You wrongly used 'hear' instead of 'here' and it's the wrong thread for that bit of news. Aside from that, WELCOME! You've finally arrived at the only thread that doesn't feel like a funeral march, despite your ironic statement! ;)

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True, it doesn't have huge internal AND external flash storage. Nice thing about the Droid is that you can add up to 32GB of microSD storage to it and use it to run apps. (You can either go about the plain vanilla method of moving qualified apps to the SD card, or use the rooted APPS2SD method that CyanogenMod supports.) This isn't like the N900 where you're stuck with an incredibly teeeeeeny partition for your home and apps. Additionally, there's a huge push to get data into the cloud--so you don't have to have a lot of storage on the device for your calendar, email, music, video, etc., if you want to be able to sync or use your data across lots of devices. (Personally, I prefer to keep most of my data local, but some things I prefer in the cloud like my email, contacts and calendar... those just magically appear on my Droid *AND* Galaxy Tab.)

Because it's the nature of Android from the beginning, it is able to do true multitasking for any apps that are enabled to multitask in the background... and any apps that an author wrote to be able to freeze their state when they're thrown into the background will do that instead so that you don't eat up battery life (as opposed to constantly running idle applications in the background like in Maemo). You'll note that this DOES provide you with the best of both worlds--you can get true multitasking from apps that should be able to do so in the background while getting FAR better battery life. What are you running into that isn't multitasking for you?

I'm sure most of the people who puffer on about how great a phone the N900 is have never used anything else, but that's just natural. I blame Nokia, mainly, for doing such a half-arse job of something that even the Skype application does a better job of doing. :P

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Yo, Negatron Dan... what was that Astro File Browser replacement you swore was pretty darn good?

I've been in and out of this thread, can't find it.

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Wrong.

Considering your ignorance above, this statement is ironic.

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People discuss things on this site. That is the PURPOSE of this site. Statements like "Wrong." without further comment are quite lame. Are you suggesting we go into Vulcan Mind Meld to learn what you know?

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Might be File expert?
http://market.android.com/details?id=xcxin.filexpert
I find it good.

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You must be talking about the awesome FILE EXPERT! It's free! Donating/paying doesn't unlock anything but their gratitude, unlike Astro. :) PLUS it does a whole lot more than Astro (like stream video through a local proxy so the local video player will play even SMB and RTSP streams).

No kidding. I don't mind being told I'm wrong, but I'd like to know how I'm wrong. As I understood it, nothing I've said was wrong. People have been complaining in a bunch of threads about figuring out how to go about getting apps to install in some larger mountpoint outside of the eMMC memory. Last I checked, the apps have to be written or patched to take advantage of such external mountpoints outside of the usual application installation paths. For sure, I KNOW that what I'm saying about the Android operating system and the install-to-SD as well as APPS2SD methods work. So I'm not clear where "wrong" comes in. Please explain, daperl. Educate us.

Otherwise, let me reply in kind at the same level, then: Your face is wrong. ;)

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Oops, gosh, I wasn't verbose enough last time. My bad, I could have sworn the following comment was pure flamebait. Please, let me try again.

This is incorrect. Stuck would imply that you're stuck. You're not. The n900 runs underneath a powerful GNU/Linux operating system that offers the user a plethora of options to solve their file storage issues. If your having such problems, there's no need to feel stuck like the previous poster, please use the search features of this site to find the answer that is right for you. For one such example, I encourage you to click on the link in my signature to learn how you too could have the entire n900 SDK on your device.

Thank you and have a nice day.

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This thread was so nice......

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danramos, debernardis... thanks. File Expert is quite nice indeed. Good call on that.

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I don't seem to be able to use Clockwork Mod. I tried to use it to reset my faulty battery metre but it does not do anything when I boot into recovery mode. Any option I select the android man cones up but nothing loads up or happens. I don't know if it is because there is no right Tab option for me in Clockwork. The only options are Tab Verizon, AT&T and t-mobile but my Tab is sim free and Non-US anyway. Tried all three and could not get Clockwork to work on my Tab with any. Or am I missing something?

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Well, this is completely different from what I thought you meant. I thought you were saying he was Wrong because in Android also you are stuck as described.

Funny, but laconic one-word comments can misfire.

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No kidding! I was always annoyed at Astro's cripple-ware mentality to do the simplest damned thing in the world--FILE MANAGEMENT. File Expert takes that several steps further and also replaces the need for ROOT EXPLORER (since it can also mount/unmount partitions) and even adds functionality to other apps through its locally hosted file streaming service for files hosted on SMB services. Incredibly cool--and NOT crippled free software donationware. I highly recommend spreading the word on that one. :)

You weren't faulted for your lack of loquaciousness so much as your lack or elaboration and specificity.

In as much as you would need to root or any other operations to get "unstuck" in an Android device, some people would see that as being "stuck" until you fly through loops and learn something new because it's not something the system is already set up to support. But thanks for eventually clarifying that.

Good day to you! ;)

Interesting! I can only speak as an owner of a Verizon Galaxy Tab as far as my own experience goes. Which model is your Galaxy Tab? Maybe I can go snoop around a bit about this. (From the desktop, press MENU, SETTINGS, ABOUT DEVICE, and look up the MODEL NUMBER). Is this a wifi-only Tab?

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Seems like there's been a lot innovation/development for Android this fortnight but we've been blinded by the N9's shoulda/woulda (or maybe we miss CC too much!)

Firstly a Live Wallpaper which makes everything float like in space. Pretty neat!
http://www.xda-developers.com/androi...r-home-screen/

And a game which I'm sort of addicted to: http://www.xda-developers.com/androi...d-for-android/

The ability to now shoot panorama photo's http://www.xda-developers.com/androi...n-sony-phones/

A new benchmarking app from ChainFire, they say is a better representation of a device's performance: http://www.xda-developers.com/androi...droid-devices/

We also have someone from xda-developers who has modified the launcher from the Galaxy phones to present you with Touchwizz 4.0 He adds many features and makes it faster than Samsung's execution and its able to be used on most Android devices!
Now everyone brags about how it is an iPhone copy, but I think its truly intuitive so I don't care if it looks like iCopy and I do prefer it to HTC's Sense which is weirdly-laid out. http://www.xda-developers.com/androi...droid-devices/

Next a very cool, and dear i say it necessary Launcher: The Honeycomb launcher. It's the best immitator I've seen yet, feature-full, and promise of other better additions in the future. I have a feeling some members from here will definitely give it a try on their Samsung Galaxy Tabs (let me know how it runs): http://www.xda-developers.com/androi...launcher-beta/

The kernel source for the ASUS Transformer is available, which means better kernel = better custom OS http://www.xda-developers.com/androi...r-transformer/
The headphone issue has just been resolved http://www.xda-developers.com/androi...s-transformer/


CM7 is now supported for the Motorola Droid2/Droid2WE/Milestone2. Its a great device, but its locked bootloader meant too many hassles to get custom firmware, perhaps Motorola will learn?http://www.xda-developers.com/androi...oid-2-support/

The Atrix is looking more and more like a possible upgrade for those tinkeres with the addition of 5-finger-multitouch: http://www.xda-developers.com/androi...ized-try-this/
A fix for those who have wifi issues (no thanks to Moto)http://www.xda-developers.com/androi...ome-countries/
And a (rumoured) promise of unlocking the bootloader at the expense of your warranty (totally worth it): http://www.xda-developers.com/androi...future-update/

The HTC HD2, the phone that refuses to die now lives on with a new custom OS based on Sense 3.0 and so far most things work! http://www.xda-developers.com/androi...g-720p-camera/

And for those who bought the Samsung Wave, its basically a Galaxy S i9000 with a better build quality, smaller 3.3" screen and Samsung's "Bada OS". It costed half the price of a regular i9000 which made it a smart buy, but everyone was hoping for a port of Android.
Seems like its being served cold/late, better than never I guess:
http://www.xda-developers.com/androi...heck-this-out/

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Just an FYI for those of us with the Samsung Galaxy Tab--it already does this. I've taken a bunch of panaramic pictures using my Tab. Apparently, it supports horizontal as well as vertical panoramic (you can move side to side, or up and down for vertical panoramic images... like the time I took a picture of the tallest tower in Hartford, CT, the Cityplace Building). You can get it by going into the Tab's camera app, tap the "screen" icon (top-left side of the screen) and you'll find several modes: Single shot (default), Continuous (takes pictures for as long as you hold the snap button icon), Panaroma (WHOO!), Smile shot (yup--snaps the picture when it detects a smile on the subject), and Self-shot (uses the front-facing camera).

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Thanks Dan.

I didn't know because I don't have a SGTab, but I'm considering one.
I missed out on the Telstra $299 web-special, and I'm currently divided because I want an ASUS Transformer or a compromise in the middle (like the new SGTab 8.9").

You know why, like I told you, I will put the amplifier under the front-passenger-seat and hook it up to the device which will become the centre-console (not dash) and double up as the GPS receiver. And possibly make a good mobile companion (to my i9000/N900) or home entertainment (competing with my PS3).

Here's a picture of my '01 Corolla, it has the best spot for the tablet/gps/music/videos. The inner area where the current stereo and the empty pocket will fit a 7" tablet perfectly.
To fit in a 8.9" Tab, I'd have to cut into the borders of the outer-plastic, ie a whole lotta cutting, should I?
http://img848.imageshack.us/img848/7324/dashmount.jpg

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You post a "should I?"-question on a forum that thrives on there-I-fixed-it / warranties-are-for-pu$$ies -approach on life. So, goes without saying, hells to the yes you should cut, chop and mold to fit a square peg in a round hole.

Do it. :)

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Naw, I think the 7-inch tablet format factor is PERFECT--especially if you grab yourself the car dock and rip it apart to fit it into that cavity so that you can easily pop off the Tab (like a stereo face plate would) and then take it with you wherever you go--at least it'll also fit in your pockets.

You're clearly not really part of this crowd if you think that's the way I'd do it. You didn't even ONCE mention 'duct tape'. I would absolutely DUCT TAPE that car mount and splice the Samsung charger (2 amp for full rapid charge) USB port to the console so you can use it to charge the Tab with the wire you'll have dangling out of a corner of the car mount, or plug in your other USB devices to charge. DUCT TAPE! LEARN IT! ;) Also, seriously? There I fixed it? We're talking AUTOMOBILE augmentation here! http://www.thatwillbuffout.com :D