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This is bad news.

If I had to choose a product between Apple and HTC, Apple would win over its superior hardware styling, superb software implementation and general wow factor .... but this makes it clear Apple is an EVIL company.

HTC seems likely to lose this battle, because they didn't get licensing for 2 very vague patents, which is absurd.

I hope one day (soon) the sleeping giant, Google, rises and topples Apple around HARD so that the damage they cause will be reverted to them, teaching them a lesson about the circle of life and karma.

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after use nitdroid umay, I have a problem with kernel power 47.. I can't reinstall kernel power :confused: & now I can't overclock my n900 bcause etc/init.d/avahi-daemon broken symlink...!!
anybody can help me ? please...:confused:

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You're in the wrong thread. This is an Android thread, I don't think many of us are going to know anything about nitdroid (which is loosely BASED on Android made to work on an N900). If you seek out an N900 nitdroid thread, you'll probably have better luck finding answers. Sorry.

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When can we finally admit that software patents make about as much sense as patenting stories and books? There is now AMPLE evidence that patents are being used to HINDER innovation, now--which was the original INTENT for patents, copyrights and trademarks in the first place. This is frustrating, infuriating, illogical and completely counterproductive. It's, in fact, harmful to the livelihood of people who simply want to invent, produce and compete. There will be MANY jobs lost over this at a time when jobs are absolutely CRITICAL to maintain economies all around the world. Freaking appalling.

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FYI: I think I might pull a Cap'n here. I'm finding that most of my time spent on TMO has been mainly spent arguing unconvincingly to a group of people/developers/fanbois who are stagnating. Maemo has been relegated to an orphaned status now, The N9 is hardly a competitive or relevant device for ANYONE in either Maemo or MeeGo camps, MeeGo isn't really the point of this forum, and Maemo development has generally stagnated or at best gone into a sharp downward useless/pointless trend compared to just about anything else. So, I think I'll be selling away my N800 for spare change and participating here far, far less.

I want to thank everyone here in this thread--by far the best thread around here for a long time now--you guys have been GREAT to talk to and I hope I can still talk to many of you here or elsewhere whenever I can. Since the folks here in this thread are likely to be Android interested, I hope to see you around the XDA forums or at the Droid Fans Facebook (and now Google+) feeds.

Hopefully, someday, MeeGo can finally be taken seriously and I can revisit many of you over at MeeGo.org again on a regular basis.

Take care and be well!!

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Yah Maemo/MeeGo have gone down the drain. I wonder why did it take so god damn long for Nokia to launch a MeeGo I mean really it isn't that hard for such a gigantic corporation. Maemo and MeeGo are like many other Nokia products amazing with such unused and untapped potential, in fact Nokia in general seems like that. Nokia has become generic and unwilling to innovate or take risks. The reason for this is probably because they are afraid to pull another N-Gage and lose tons of money off of a failed project. Sigh rest in peace Symbian, Maemo, MeeGo, Qtopia, N-Gage, and the all the other things Nokia was too lazy to push. Rest in peace Nokia sadfa:(e.

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http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19736_7.../?tag=mncol;5n
http://www.engadget.com/2011/07/20/l...ands-on-video/
Lenovo has just unveiled two Android tablet one is a generic tablet 10.1inch tablet based on ideapad notebook line, while the other is based upon the legendary thinkpad line. The thinkpad based product is 50 dollars more expensive than the ideapad one. The thinkpad tablet also offers a optional stylus very much like the HTC Flyer and includes special applications for using the stylus, the digitizer like the one in the HTC flyer is based upon N-Trig tech. Also the Thinkpad tablet is 500 dollars which is the same price as an HTC Flyer and offers the Thinkpad qualities and reliability. IMO if the Flyer wants to remain competitive lower the price to 400 dollars and release the 10 inch puccini soon for 500 dollars. Also the Thinkpad has optional keyboard portfolio which offers a Thinkpad style keyboard and touchable do instead of a Trackpoint.

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Well that is bad news, all good things come to end I guess.

My thanks to @danramos and @capt'n corrupt for their contributions to one of the best threads ever.

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I'll keep mostly reading updates to this thread and following Maemo/Meego evolution.

Any of you in Facebook or Google+ ?
I have invites for Google+ if any of you wants in, and I am starting to invite all my friends there too :D

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@H3llb0und

Google+ invite!?! Please!

Thanks
Sno

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@dan It does seem like the folks that are *in charge* are dead set on staying Maemo/'MeeGo only. Despite the fact that Maemo is dead, and MeeGo handset UI is dead. Instead of broadening the appeal to more people (and maybe picking up some new blood in the process for Maemo/MeeGo) they'd rather keep it niche.

Thanks for all the great comments dan.

*off topic* which got me thinking, if Maemo is so open, why aren't there more devices running it (say even an old x86 notebook)? If MeeGo is so open, why was the handset UI dropped? Couldn't our community pick it up and keep working on it, and still be under the MeeGo name? How many fully tweaked and customized ROM's are there for Maemo (1? powerkernel)?

On the other hand, the evil more closed than Maemo/MeeGo, how dare you call it open, Android get put on more devices every day. Any mainstream (even a lot of not so mainstream) devices have multiple ROMs available, and a lot of devices have even been upgraded to versions beyond which the manufacturers support. Heck, from what I've read Android on the N900 is now nearly fully functional (hopefully soon to be released).

Technical licensing, jargon, bs aside, which OS seems more open?

*on topic* I keep waiting for a new 7" tablet to be released. It seems like there are several good options out there, but nothing actually in the wild yet. Last I heard, the Huawei MediaPad is looking at an October release (but nothing has been decided on firmware upgrades for it).

I'd love to get my hands on a Asus Memo, but there doesn't seem to be much recent info out there for it.


Generally "lemmyslender" is odd enough that if you see it on any other boards, it's most likely me.
Len Palmer on facebook, following droid fans

A google+ invite would be appreciated.

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I'd get happily a google+ invite too, thanks a lot. On facebook, I'm Ernesto de Bernardis.

@Danramos, where are you out of here? Twitter? Facebook? XDA?

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I added you on Facebook.

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I'm Thomas Christiansen or http://www.facebook.com/railroadmaster on facebook.

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Send me a PM with your gmail address

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Just added you on FB.

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Just upgraded to the new 1.3 version of netflix on my vibrant running a 2.3.4 rom. Just for fun copied it over to my s7 running 2.2.

It actually worked! (previous versions did not). Much happier watching on a 7" screen.

Just thought I'd pass along the new version may work on more devices than officially listed.

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Ditto--I'm on both (not surprisingly, you can find me with the name Dan Ramos.. and the same avatar image on both). :) I'll invite anybody that wants 'em. Feel free to add me to your circles or whatnot.

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Ironically, I had already been running it on my Droid LONG before they put it on the list. I think you just need any 2.x version of Android that has the DRM libraries (some 2.2, and I think all 2.3 versions). So I'm SURE there are a LOT more devices it will work on than advertised.

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I believe you are correct, all? 2.3 versions work.

For my S7, as far as I know, Huawei released several different versions of 2.2 for different countries (none for the USA to date). Of those multiple versions, Netflix only worked on the Brazilian version. I had downloaded several prior versions of Netflix (from xda, etc) and none had worked on the rom I was using for my S7. It was a heavily modified version which included several new things from the Slim rom (framework stuff).

Netflix must have changed something regarding the DRM libraries (or checks?) as the prior versions didn't work on the S7 and the 1.3 does (without changing anything else on the S7). Fired up the prior version, crashed out before playing the movie, installed the new version over the old one, movies now play.

Perhaps a lot more of the 2.2 versions will work now? Old version I had was 5.4MB, new version 7MB. Perhaps the libraries are (partially) included? Just saying if you have a 2.2 device that it didn't work on, it may be worth trying the 1.3 version.

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I just bought a Desire Z an hour ago, comes with new box, accessories, handset, spare battery, crappy plastic cover, 8GB microSD.
Good condition, $250.

So I've got five phones!!!
1) Vodafone Nokia 1616 ->useless carrier locked, now on Virgin
2) SGS i9000 came free on my contract.
3) Motorola DEXT i bought 2 weeks ago
4) HTC Desire Z bought tonight.
5) The Beast aka Nokia N900

Desire Z will become my main device.
So I'll sell the SGS i9000 for $350-$400.
Also sell Nokia 1616 for $0-$20.
Maybe sell the Motorola DEXT for $100-$150.
Or gift DEXT to my lil brother.

Maybe in 6months I'll sell the Desire Z for $250-$350 and upgrade to a similar device with A9 SoC. Maybe I'll sell the N900 at that time aswell probably for $200-$300.

Phone Management 101 (lmao)

edit:
I will be optimizing android on all devices and I'll make some youtube video demo's and paste them here, when I get the time. I'm really surprised by the progress android made from 2.1 to 2.3.4 its what I had envisioned for Moblin/MeeGo all this time.

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Also leaked from China a potential 3d HTC Flyer
http://www.talkandroid.com/47805-pic...=Google+Reader
the cover indicates something similar to what is found on the HTC Evo 3d

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By the way--I'm exceedingly pleased to see a bunch of you on Google+! Thanks for all the connections and here's hoping we continue to be a community wherever/whenever we go! :)

Also--just to make sure it's relevant, I have Google's Google+ Android app and I'm very VERY pleased with it! There... obligation met for a new posting! ;)

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Unfortunately I'm not on facebook or Twitter.:eek:
I think the young people have put me off facebook, but it would be nice to keep in touch.

It's such a shame that this site has become so barren to what it was. I have learned a great deal from a lot of very informed people and I can only thank everyone for their opinions and for not taking themselves too seriously, especially on this thread.

I shall still pop on everyday to see what is happening but I fear the end is not far off.

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people i am following on twitter are moving to Google plus, and i need an invite to be able to sign in ATM.

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FWIW, I'm also on G+. I have invites if you need them.

Feel free to add me - I'm "gerbick" there too.

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I think I need more than just "Gerbick" to find you on there. What are your Google account names (email addresses)? You can (and should) privately message 'em to me here. Otherwise, you can supply your first and last names to be searchable--but I've find that searching by name isn't as fool-proof.

Hope to see you all there! BTW: noal... go to http://google.com/plus and check it out--it's FAR better than Facebook and Twitter, near as I can tell so far anyway. MUCH better control over your privacy and content!

Negatron Dan.. signing off again! ;)
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b5...atronCover.jpg

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LOL

I thought it was clear... http://gplus.to/gerbick

There you go. That's even easier.

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Thanks Dan, I've registered my interest and await an e-mail from google. Seems they are a bit full!

It certainly seems a more rounded experience than facebook.

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[QUOTE=gerbick;1056474]FWIW, I'm also on G+. I have invites if you need them.

I need an invite, please

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Shoot me your Google mail addresses in a private note here on TMO and I'll send invites.

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PM me your gmail addy.

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Seems like a BUNCH of you are already over at Google+... good for you! I must say that it's been far better, generally, than the forums for conversation. Adding to that, the much more personal touch of throwing together a voice, video, chat and youtube HUDDLE session. So far, I'm really digging Google+ over Facebook! :) I hope they fix up the Android app, though, it seems to be lacking.

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my nick is "gabby131" on Google plus! If you want to get bored, then add me :D

EDIT: oooops! my "Search visibility" was unchecked...sorry, It's checked now :)

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well don't get me wrong, Android CAN work AS WELL as iOS if they got a good developing team behind it to make the tablet type apps, but if you want something MORE functional than the iOS, you need a platform that wasn't originally a phone's platform.

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I have a confession to make, I'm not on facebook. In fact I don't really know what facebook is other than a profile of a person. What am I missing out on and should I be seeking a Google+ invite?

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gabby131,

I might be wrong but it looks like you have to search by proper name as gabby131 is turning up nothing.

I'm Neil White by the way, in case anybody was interested...:D

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I am also not on facebook.

I think google+ could almost replace forums for informed chat on a wide variety of subjects, without idiots shoving their oar in.

Although informed chat might be beyond my capabilities!;)

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I'd recommend getting a Google+, but I'm biased. I resisted these things for a long time, too, but eventually got into it and I'm finding it's a FAR better experience than the forums for follow your family, friends and acquaintances as well as your interests (varied, not just Maemo like here). Google+ is ESPECIALLY nice because it focuses HIGHLY on privacy and management of your friends into circles and Google has made overtures of not surprising everyone with automatically opting you into privacy-damaging new features or functions like Facebook as been notorious for doing repeatedly. That's my take, anyway. Hope to see you there! Let me know if you want an invite (PM me your gmail email address), I'll throw one your way.

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Ok, I had to come back to post this, it's too cool....

First off, thanks to all my friends for their kind words and invite requests. It means more than you know. If you have a spare, I'd love to join Google+ with you all!

Anywhoo, here's the reason I am such a strong proponent of the Exynos 4210 SoC (found in the Galaxy SII). Here is a video of the ODroid-A (featuring the Exynos 4210) running Ubuntu like a CHAMP at a full-sized-laptop 1366x768 resolution :eek:. It's running at a clip that might have you thinking it was running on a netbook!

Next years tablets will be full fledged laptop replacements -- yes for 'real' productivity too.

http://hardkernel.com/renewal_2011/_...1950020265.JPG
http://hardkernel.com/renewal_2011/_...2019118977.png
VIDEO: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCPBmnAydlQ
BLOG: http://hardkernel.com/renewal_2011/blog/blog_list.php

For those that don't know, the Exynos 4210 (AFAICT) is a pure ARM system-on-chip. All of the design IP was created by ARM, which has benefits of quick time to market, and insight into on-chip efficiencies. It also features an amazingly powerful GPU (Mali 400). The only SoC currently on the market to challenge this on all fronts is the Apple A5.

Damn, I miss this forum....