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sepehrsfmech 2010-08-26 18:28

Re: what do you guys have against apple?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RFS-81 (Post 799319)
I'm not bashing apple.

The thought I'd need itunes for something has never crossed my mind.

I've used Linux since 2003

Ooh.. I can play this too. Without Nokia, Ericsson, Motorola there would be no cellphones affordable to John Doe until 2050.

Really?


Yes.

you need to read the other posts before answering this, its like telling the answer to a question you dont know

i said that i was wrong about touchscreen, and angrybirds

so get over it and be smart like everyone else and and read the other post

garen 2010-08-26 18:31

Re: what do you guys have against apple?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sepehrsfmech (Post 798698)

if it wasnt for apple, people wouldnt have a sweet music store(itunes)

if it wasnt for apple, people were forced to use windows.

if it wasnt for apple, there would be no touch screen phone till 2011.

if it wasnt for apple, there would be no angrybirds.

Microsoft has a pretty sweet music store.
Theres linux.
There were phones with touchscreen before the iphone even came out.
I didn't know apple developed angrybirds.

daperl 2010-08-26 18:50

Re: what do you guys have against apple?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sophocha (Post 799339)
Isn`t that beautiful?Apple can`t offer me a product as beautiful as my custom made PC.You grow attach to it.I don`t see me being attached to any $3000 mac or $700 iphone because all of these devices are souless (and devilish).That is the same reason I like the N900.It has soul.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4136/...19121dea_b.jpg

I'm going to have to ask you to not post any more pictures. Thank you.

mmlado 2010-08-26 19:08

Re: what do you guys have against apple?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by daperl (Post 799358)
I'm going to have to ask you to not post any more pictures. Thank you.

:eek: Is It considered porn? :D

ootpek 2010-08-26 19:13

Re: what do you guys have against apple?
 
I just don't like proprietary solutions...which Apple is full of. Apple can do what they want...and they even do many things very well I admit. BUT...as long as they ignore open standards just to do things their own way I will ignore them. I suspect they are only doing things their own way to lock me into their ecosystem...an expensive marked up ecosystem. Having to buy a replacement cable once when the cat chewed through my son's ipod cable felt like I was being pickpocketed. Meanwhile I have so many usb standard cables laying around that could have been used instead it is not funny.

Same with Sony...they make some truly lustworthy products...but...as long as they deal in memory sticks they can stick it.

sepehrsfmech 2010-08-26 19:17

Re: what do you guys have against apple?
 
can i ask something?

who tagged this thread as "religious wars" ?

daperl 2010-08-26 19:18

Re: what do you guys have against apple?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mmlado (Post 799371)
:eek: Is It considered porn? :D

No, porn causes a different reflex.

sophocha 2010-08-26 19:28

Re: what do you guys have against apple?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by daperl (Post 799378)
No, porn causes a different reflex.

You don`t like it? It`s art :)

Venemo 2010-08-26 19:32

Re: what do you guys have against apple?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sepehrsfmech (Post 798698)
i have been reading tons of threads this past week and i see in almost all of them, they bash on apple on how iphone is closed. well its the same as n900

Not really.
On the N900, I can remove or replace any system components, or modify them as I like. (There are plenty of mods and stuff on this forum, too.)

Quote:

Originally Posted by sepehrsfmech (Post 798698)
it was advertised as an open sourced phone

No, it wasn't.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sepehrsfmech (Post 798698)
i wanna know why are you bashing on apple.

Because they sell their bloatware for high prices without any actual feature. All their stuff is expensive, yet they're not very practical.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sepehrsfmech (Post 798698)
if it wasnt for apple, people wouldnt have a sweet music store(itunes)

Not true.
There are plenty of other music stores.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sepehrsfmech (Post 798698)
if it wasnt for apple, people were forced to use windows.

Not true.
There are plenty of other OSes, eg. Linux distros and all.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sepehrsfmech (Post 798698)
if it wasnt for apple, there would be no touch screen phone till 2011.

Not true.
There were touchscreen phones back in 2004... And they didn't have anything to do with Apple.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sepehrsfmech (Post 798698)
if it wasnt for apple, there would be no angrybirds.

Not true.
Apple didn't create Angry Birds.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sepehrsfmech (Post 798698)
can someone reply to me in this thread on why do you hate apple/iphone?

I don't hate them.
I just actually prefer to have real features and not bloatware.

daperl 2010-08-26 19:46

Re: what do you guys have against apple?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sophocha (Post 799384)
You don`t like it? It`s art :)

No and no.

Just ask this guy.

bsving 2010-08-26 19:54

Re: what do you guys have against apple?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sepehrsfmech (Post 798698)
i have been reading tons of threads this past week and i see in almost all of them, they bash on apple on how iphone is closed. well its the same as n900, nokia closed the source on some components, so its not fully open sourced but it was advertised as an open sourced phone. ITS NOT

i wanna know why are you bashing on apple.

if it wasnt for apple, people wouldnt have a sweet music store(itunes)

if it wasnt for apple, people were forced to use windows.

if it wasnt for apple, there would be no touch screen phone till 2011.

if it wasnt for apple, there would be no angrybirds.

can someone reply to me in this thread on why do you hate apple/iphone?

For me, iPhone is a nice phone, but boring. Besides, there is absolutely nothing cool about a phone that is loved by grandmothers and housewives, nothing at all. Still, it's a nice device :)

riceboy 2010-08-26 19:56

Re: what do you guys have against apple?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Venemo (Post 799386)
Not really.
On the N900, I can remove or replace any system components, or modify them as I like. (There are plenty of mods and stuff on this forum, too.)



No, it wasn't.



Because they sell their bloatware for high prices without any actual feature. All their stuff is expensive, yet they're not very practical.



Not true.
There are plenty of other music stores.



Not true.
There are plenty of other OSes, eg. Linux distros and all.



Not true.
There were touchscreen phones back in 2004... And they didn't have anything to do with Apple.



Not true.
Apple didn't create Angry Birds.



I don't hate them.
I just actually prefer to have real features and not bloatware.

same boat as you sir.

i like apple. specially for a snack. ummm nomnom.

noipv4 2010-08-26 20:00

Re: what do you guys have against apple?
 
this op wanted to troll. He got a lot of attention.
We got a hell lot more entertainment. everybody's happy :)

stickymick 2010-08-26 20:03

Re: what do you guys have against apple?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by daperl (Post 799391)
No and no.

Just ask this guy.

Now that IS art. :D
Reminds me of the Sangaku.

Well, I've just been trawling the iPhone4 forums http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs44/f/20...ehpleuvoir.gif, and I can't find a single post from a rival smartphone owner baiting an argument by openly trashing the iPhone while claiming their phone is tons better like iPhone owners have done here.

Even the Nokia Facebook page gets invaded with comments like "I tink iphone4 iz betta".

ndi 2010-08-26 20:37

Re: what do you guys have against apple?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by daperl (Post 799391)
No and no.

Just ask this guy.

Too ... uncomputerlike. I prefer mine more machine-like. Good form, nice finish and a heck of a function packed inside. And yes, I use the water extensions, the hot plug bays, etc.

There is such a thing as too simple, too hidden and too slick. I can afford any case I want, and Lian Li lost the race with twice the price.

--

And frankly, how much sleeker can you make a phone before it looks like a used soap or a rectal instrument? All iPhones I handled almost slipped from my hand. I have dry hands and soft skin. And Apple isn't the only one taking this minimalistic design to the edge of the possible.

All these new "sleek" phones annoy me. Strip the logo and you have a faceless drone. Shiny, smooth, faceless. Like a game of pool with 16 white balls.

Nokia is in on this too. Less(Streak) and less(N8) and less(Vibrant) personality. Long gone are the days where Nokia made a curved phone.

Get ready for the all-new [company here] phone! Now in [silver, black], in the new and exciting [bar] form factor! Features touchscreen! Hardware keys for volume! And a camera!

Step right up, folks, pick a phone, pay for it and when you turn it on you find out who made it! Choose from out sleek 2 colors available!

I hate it. And guess who's spearheading that movement. That is reason alone to hate them, they are ruining design. Their success in financial terms is forcing the hand of every insecure almost-fired CEO out there to clone them.

Alas, it's not Apple I hate, it's some of their followers. Smug li oh, look, Futurama's on.

ysss 2010-08-26 20:41

Re: what do you guys have against apple?
 
What a miserable bunch of people we are.

fatalsaint 2010-08-26 21:04

Re: what do you guys have against apple?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stickymick (Post 799404)
Well, I've just been trawling the iPhone4 forums http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs44/f/20...ehpleuvoir.gif, and I can't find a single post from a rival smartphone owner baiting an argument by openly trashing the iPhone while claiming their phone is tons better like iPhone owners have done here.

If I'm not mistaken.. that's because they get deleted...

pantera1989 2010-08-26 21:28

Re: what do you guys have against apple?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ysss (Post 799427)
What a miserable bunch of people we are.

So true..so true. A thread about a great app will take weeks to have over a hundred posts. A stupid thread like this..one day.

wmarone 2010-08-26 21:37

Re: what do you guys have against apple?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pantera1989 (Post 799448)
So true..so true. A thread about a great app will take weeks to have over a hundred posts. A stupid thread like this..one day.

Mostly because factually incorrect posts like the one that started this aren't deleted or locked outright, for fear of idiots screaming "censorship!"

So we get this.

daperl 2010-08-26 21:41

Re: what do you guys have against apple?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ysss (Post 799427)
What a miserable bunch of people we are.

And clueless. Don't forget clueless.

@ndi

Wow, those are very nice.

ysss 2010-08-26 21:54

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http://www.9to5mac.com/wp-content/up.../b10aa269.jpeg

sepehrsfmech 2010-08-26 21:58

Re: what do you guys have against apple?
 
im done with this.....
you guys just wont stop being nokia fanboys and listen.

i bet you guys ***** at every iphone owners telling them n900 is open sourced and iphone is closed.

i got more problems in life then dealing with a bunch of fanboys dreaming about meego being an update of n900, dreaming that nokia will open sources to closed components.

well this is nokia, they know how to sell a non-finished phone.

this is my first and last thread that reaches more than 50 posts

all i need is a mod to close this so i can go on with my life and not deal with you.

ndi 2010-08-26 22:03

Re: what do you guys have against apple?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sepehrsfmech (Post 799471)
im done with this.....
you guys just wont stop being nokia fanboys and listen.

So, what, your opinion matter more? What do you own, an iPhone? To the pitchforks! :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by sepehrsfmech (Post 799471)
i bet you guys ***** at every iphone owners telling them n900 is open sourced and iphone is closed.

Wrong. As a Windows user and admin, I know what closed source is all about.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sepehrsfmech (Post 799471)
i got more problems in life then dealing with a bunch of fanboys

No you don't. If you did, you'd be out there, dealing with them.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sepehrsfmech (Post 799471)
all i need is a mod to close this so i can go on with my life and not deal with you.

Did you know you could go on with your life if this thread was left open? I think there's an app for that.

wmarone 2010-08-26 22:04

Re: what do you guys have against apple?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sepehrsfmech (Post 799471)
im done with this.....
you guys just wont stop being nokia fanboys and listen.

You opened up with a bunch of factually questionable, if not outright wrong, assertions.

Quote:

i bet you guys ***** at every iphone owners telling them n900 is open sourced and iphone is closed.
I don't give a damn about the iPhone except that it's pushing a locked down philosophy that benefits only Apple in the long run.

Quote:

i got more problems in life then dealing with a bunch of fanboys dreaming about meego being an update of n900, dreaming that nokia will open sources to closed components.
You threw rocks at the hive. With such an inflammatory initial post I'm surprised you expected better.

sepehrsfmech 2010-08-26 22:05

Re: what do you guys have against apple?
 
ps. i do not have any apple product

fatalsaint 2010-08-26 22:10

Re: what do you guys have against apple?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sepehrsfmech (Post 799471)
im done with this.....
you guys just wont stop being nokia fanboys and listen.

i bet you guys ***** at every iphone owners telling them n900 is open sourced and iphone is closed.

i got more problems in life then dealing with a bunch of fanboys dreaming about meego being an update of n900, dreaming that nokia will open sources to closed components.

well this is nokia, they know how to sell a non-finished phone.

this is my first and last thread that reaches more than 50 posts

all i need is a mod to close this so i can go on with my life and not deal with you.

So let me get this straight...

You open a thread with several statements that were subsequently all showed to be incorrect (which you've even admitted to at least 2 of them, several times), you then follow up trying to show Linux is inefficient by asking a series of (what you thought) were rhetorical questions to "prove" linux's uselessness but were then subsequently answered and rebutted - in full...

So as a last ditch attempt you're just saying we're all stupid and you don't want to deal with us anymore because we don't agree with you.... :confused:

.... Wow.

longcat 2010-08-26 22:16

Re: what do you guys have against apple?
 
apple

is a why adam and eve were perm-banned in heavens

longcat 2010-08-26 22:17

Re: what do you guys have against apple?
 
i hate them just for fun

sowande1.0 2010-08-26 22:36

Re: what do you guys have against apple?
 
Apple did NOT create iTunes, they just renamed an existing program called SoundJam and hired the original programmer.

Look it up, SoundJam MP. I miss working for the publisher, Casady & Greene. Best employer ever.

deyons 2010-08-26 22:39

Re: what do you guys have against apple?
 
@sepehrsfmech

I was a huge supporter of apple in the 90's when there products started getting more main stream and made a come back. But the this happen:

http://i.imgur.com/opkj8.jpg

Why the Hell Must Apple do stupid **** like that? Its a dam USB plug and they had to make it Apple only!

sepehrsfmech 2010-08-26 22:42

Re: what do you guys have against apple?
 
loool, your right, thats just stupid

SAABoy 2010-08-26 22:42

Re: what do you guys have against apple?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by deyons (Post 799497)
@sepehrsfmech

I was a huge supporter of apple in the 90's when there products started getting more main stream and made a come back. But the this happen:

http://i.imgur.com/opkj8.jpg

Why the Hell Must Apple do stupid **** like that? Its a dam USB plug and they had to make it Apple only!

HUUUUGE lol over here!!... seriously, what the hell is that!?

11ac9 2010-08-26 22:52

Re: what do you guys have against apple?
 
know how many times i dropped my n900 none
dropped my iphone a bunch of times

know what i did when my n900 touch screen stopped working pulled my iphone out and used it to make a call what a cellphone should always do

hah take that FAIL

scribbles 2010-08-26 23:24

Re: what do you guys have against apple?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sepehrsfmech (Post 799058)
GUYS , I said it before, i was wrong with the angrybirds and touchscreen thingy, get over it!

What do you expect...coming into a Maemo/Linux/Nokia forum spouting off blatant inconsistencies about a device that maybe 2/3 of the population here can care less about??

Btw, Apple didn't even invent iTunes, they bought the software (SoundJam MP) from a couple of guys who developed it. OS X isn't theirs either, just a derivative of UNIX. They didn't invent the iPod either, some British guy did. With that said, when you get a chance can you please post what Apple HAS invented themselves?? Besides inventing the CORRECT way to hold a phone... Consider it a project...yes??

kryptoniankid17 2010-08-26 23:41

Re: what do you guys have against apple?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sepehrsfmech (Post 798727)
now i agree with tswindell saying that apple brainwashes by saying they invented video calling, but so what?

nokia did it by saying n900 has the power of a computer, and when i go to youtube, too much lags.


@f2thak

mac is the best in the computer markets right now hands down.

mac is the best in the computer market? You my friend are hilarious.

geneven 2010-08-26 23:52

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I thought there were some very thoughtful posts here. Unfortunately, they were eventually drowned out by repetition, and now I am starting to feel a bit sick.

I think we owe a debt of gratitude to Apple for showing that real efforts to create beauty and user-friendliness can be worthwhile. It's obvious to me that Apple has forced the whole computer world to try harder.

I don't want to join their club, however. I don't trust them. Even now, they are applying for patents to make jail-breaking harder. They do want their users in jail, where they can be forced to be happy. Apple is the true Big Brother.

Wikiwide 2010-08-26 23:58

Re: what do you guys have against apple?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kryptoniankid17 (Post 799546)
mac is the best in the computer market? You my friend are hilarious.

I envy only one thing in Mac laptop: keyboard without dust, unibody.

H3llb0und 2010-08-27 00:22

Re: what do you guys have against apple?
 
I don't hate Apple.

I hate Steve Jobs.

And what I do REALLY hate are people that believe anything that is printed in an Apple ad.

They all make you believe that they invented it.

Example:
One of my housemates had a Blackberry, 5 months ago she got an iPhone 3GS.

In a conversation with another housemate about phones with touchscreens etc... she suddenly says:
"Oh! I always thought that Apple invented it" referring to touchscreens. OMG!
I just didn't start a discussion with her, because I know that she is a complete idiot with anything that relates to tech.

This is just an example, and I bet that a LOT of people that buy iPhones and Macbooks are in the same mindset.

Friends and workmates that have iPhones are still surprised when I plug in the N900 via USB and just use it like a normal USB drive to give them some music or new tv shows.

gerbick 2010-08-27 00:46

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The fact that you guys have allowed yourself to hate a person that you don't know and a product you wouldn't use just amazes me.

H3llb0und 2010-08-27 01:05

Re: what do you guys have against apple?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 799583)
The fact that you guys have allowed yourself to hate a person that you don't know and a product you wouldn't use just amazes me.

Well, I have reasons to hate Steve Jobs.
His lies affect my work.
Applications that I worked on and tested to make sure they work fine with any browser on any machine (yes even with IE5 and 6) will now have to be iPad and iPhone friendly :mad: ( or iDiot compatible as I like to call it )

The main reason for this is that one of the directors at my work is totally brainwashed by Apple. He's a 62 year old man.


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