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extendedping 2010-09-01 00:26

will the WeTab due next month be based on meego?
 
http://www.netbooknews.com/7444/weta...ased-on-meego/

I think I'd have to give it a try if so...

Would be a great start form Meego as it evidently has generated more interest in Germany then the ipad...

ysss 2010-09-01 00:34

Re: will the WePad due next month be based on meego?
 
Unofficial meego device?

gerbick 2010-09-01 00:49

Re: will the WeTab due next month be based on meego?
 
Didn't they already change the WeTab OS already once before? Didn't it go from Windows 7 (shown) to Linux based (reported) to Android based (rumored) to now... MeeGo based (rumored)?

Hell, instead of rumors, bring the damn thing out... until then, vaporware.

extendedping 2010-09-01 01:13

Re: will the WeTab due next month be based on meego?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 803750)
Didn't they already change the WeTab OS already once before? Didn't it go from Windows 7 (shown) to Linux based (reported) to Android based (rumored) to now... MeeGo based (rumored)?

Hell, instead of rumors, bring the damn thing out... until then, vaporware.

Its like the notion ink...I'll believe it when I see it. But that would be really great, I just hope it would not be some really locked down version of linux as I want to learn command line stuff (the reason I got my n900 as well).

vielfrass 2010-09-03 08:29

Re: will the WeTab due next month be based on meego?
 
It is confirmed:
It will have MeeGo!

German news:
http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldu...o-1071855.html

English news:
http://www.tcmagazine.com/tcm/news/h...-running-meego

Hands on:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EdNBTwHxWk

Odd_gunnic 2010-09-03 13:05

Re: will the WeTab due next month be based on meego?
 
So will it be any easier to revert back to the vanilla UX? Thats the UX that caught my eye, that WeTab UX does not look catchy.

maxximuscool 2010-09-03 13:20

Re: will the WeTab due next month be based on meego?
 
Kudo to Intel :)
And WeTab

extendedping 2010-09-03 13:27

Re: will the WeTab due next month be based on meego?
 
meego should get going with a bang in this case as there are more orders for the wetab then the ipad in Germany right now.

doksng 2010-09-03 13:36

Re: will the WeTab due next month be based on meego?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Odd_gunnic (Post 806173)
So will it be any easier to revert back to the vanilla UX? Thats the UX that caught my eye, that WeTab UX does not look catchy.

I hope so too

sela 2010-09-03 13:53

Re: will the WeTab due next month be based on meego?
 
Nice!

Thinking about it, it does make a lot of sense to use Meego for tablets.

After all, Meego is simply Linux with a touch-friendly WM and tools, and it is one of the best options I can think of for slate-PCs:
1. It is more optimized for touch-based UI than windows 7, and lighter on resources so it works better on slow CPUs (such as the ULV atoms).
2. It is better suited for touch interface than any other standard/slightly modified linux we have.
3. While Android is built from ground-up for touch-based devices and is light on resources, and there are a lot of apps for it, most of these apps were designed for phone-size devices, and compiled for ARM. When it comes to Atom-based tablets, there are more ready-to-use linux apps than Android apps.
4. Meego on X86 can just run most linux apps, with a minimal (if any) porting effort, so the users can have both touch-optimized meego/QT apps as well as a wider selection of non-touch-optimized but already available linux software. It is the best available compromise compromise between both worlds.

vivainio 2010-09-03 14:04

Re: will the WeTab due next month be based on meego?
 
I imagine 12" tablet will be quite inspiring target for QML applications. Also, if you have extra cash and are pondering buying several tablets, 12" + 5"/7" is a much better deal than 10" + 5"/7".

dtergens 2010-09-06 19:52

Re: will the WeTab due next month be based on meego?
 
nice video here : http://maemos.ru/2010/09/06/wetab-na...19-sentyabrya/

TH3ORY 2010-09-07 02:11

Re: will the WeTab due next month be based on meego?
 
Wepad Looks Awesome it’s already on sale Amazon Germany in-depth video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyyfL8f0bhA

gerbick 2010-09-07 03:06

Re: will the WeTab due next month be based on meego?
 
Ok... won't lie. The WeTab is starting to look like something I'd invest in for my pending tablet purchase.

You guys don't like the UI, I actually like it. Just seemed a bit... slow in places (camera for instance).

NvyUs 2010-09-07 03:50

Re: will the WeTab due next month be based on meego?
 
does not seem like real MeeGo to me not once have they said this is running MeeGo.
They call it WeTab OS based on MeeGO probably b/c there is no compatibility with MeeGo API so they not allowed to call it MeeGo

IzzehO 2010-09-07 05:35

Re: will the WeTab due next month be based on meego?
 
So given this beast is running x86, are we going to see a full OpenGL running on it? Or simply GLES? Meaning porting required for any game.

doksng 2010-09-07 06:20

Re: will the WeTab due next month be based on meego?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 809169)
Ok... won't lie. The WeTab is starting to look like something I'd invest in for my pending tablet purchase.

You guys don't like the UI, I actually like it. Just seemed a bit... slow in places (camera for instance).

My beef with it is that it does not seem to have multi touch gestures. A previous video shows that you need zoom icons on the side bar to zoom in and out. These features were shown in the vanilla meego implementation and would have loved if it was ported to wetab as well

zehjotkah 2010-09-07 06:55

Re: will the WeTab due next month be based on meego?
 
Last Friday I met Helmut, the Managing Director and Speaker of the Management Board (he founded neofonie, the company behind the WeTab).
The WeTab is using MeeGo under the UI, so MeeGo and Qt applications are running without a problem.
It was a really good and smooth experience I have to say.

We will show the WeTab also on the next mobile freidae berlin (http://mobilefreidae.org).

lagonda 2010-09-07 08:37

Re: will the WeTab due next month be based on meego?
 
Someone purporting to be from WeTab posted this encouraging post on the Meego forms.

Quote:

Hi all

Yes we do use MeeGo and it rocks! We use UI framework option and just put our UI on top. Actually it is MeeGo v1.0, but some components are even next to latest builds. So WeTab does support Multitouch, based on the MeeGo Touch Framework.

We support Qt 4.6 and will update to 4.7, once it is stable. Qt is the framework, which we prefer, but nevertheless we support GTK based apps as well as java, flash, air, android apps (last ones are running in a complete android 2.2 in virtualbox).

And by the way, since you have access to the root shell, so you could do what you like..

Cheers
WeTab Team

elris 2010-09-07 10:50

Re: will the WeTab due next month be based on meego?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lagonda (Post 809325)
Someone purporting to be from WeTab posted this encouraging post on the Meego forms.

I think this is an amazing news. I'm very excited about it. It means we can run on WeTab all the best possible applications: MeeGo, Android, Linux, Flash, Java... And think about using Wine on WeTab ;)

This company also anticipated future products by Nokia that will be showed at next Nokia World ;)

nilchak 2010-09-07 11:18

Re: will the WeTab due next month be based on meego?
 
so this is running Meego but obviously a custom UI which is a take away from the excellent Tablet UI with Panels that was demoed on the Intel prototype. I would have loved that Panel layout of the standard (or was it Intel's custom UI ?) of Meego better on the WeTab considering it has so much of screen space.

gerbick 2010-09-07 11:52

Re: will the WeTab due next month be based on meego?
 
Totally off-topic; however it seems to be yet another MeeGo based product coming out soon. Seems like Nokia's due for an announcement indeed - Amino Media Center.

Hmm.

zehjotkah 2010-09-07 12:06

Re: will the WeTab due next month be based on meego?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nilchak (Post 809429)
so this is running Meego but obviously a custom UI which is a take away from the excellent Tablet UI with Panels that was demoed on the Intel prototype. I would have loved that Panel layout of the standard (or was it Intel's custom UI ?) of Meego better on the WeTab considering it has so much of screen space.

The WeTab's UI is very cool, too.
Totally optimized for use with your thumbs on both sides of the screen.

nilchak 2010-09-07 13:03

Re: will the WeTab due next month be based on meego?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zehjotkah (Post 809453)
The WeTab's UI is very cool, too.
Totally optimized for use with your thumbs on both sides of the screen.

Oh, no doubt - in fact the thumbing on both sides is actually a usability increase I realized after watching the video one more ... but for pure looks I would have liked the Panel layout to be present also.

But again its more practical to have a easy usable UI than just a good looking one.

The sceptical side of me is now a little incredulous that the WeTab guys say it will run Java apps, Air, Flash and nearly everything you throw at it. Will wait to see it and believe it.

aironeous 2010-09-07 15:40

Re: will the WeTab due next month be based on meego?
 
I want one. What stand are they using to hold it up here?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyyfL8f0bhA
Where can we buy those?

Here is another 16 minute interview in ....you guessed it - German
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGxRQ...eature=channel

From amazon.de where you can buy it on pre-order (this is translated by babelfish to English):

"In Germany sketched. For all made.

The WeTab is a Tablet PC of the newest generation. By the Internet surf, hp videos look, emails write, music hear - the WeTab puts the world to you to hands. Contrary to closed systems” we “with the WeTab is largely written. Its Web browser supports HTML5, Java and Adobe Flash, so that you can see everything. Its operating system supports all usual file formats, so that it everything to hear and to read be able. And owing to the numerous periphery connections - e.g. USB haven, card reader and HDMI interface - you can attach existing devices simply and play media barrier-free.
Everywhere on-line. With each contract.

No SIM LOCK, a standard windshield frame section plumb bob and with each contract usable: With the WeTab 3G you are on-line, where you want it. By the Internet to surf and emails write you can owing to UMTS also on the way. And if you get lost thereby, the GPS brings you again home.
Outside slim. Inside strongly.

The 29,46cm (11.6 ") Multitouch Breitbildschirm of the WeTab does not only brilliert with a representation of 1366x768 pixels: Owing to 16:9 - you can enjoy format medial contents such as hp videos or magazines optimally.
Back

On the inside 1.66 Ghz an Intel processor as well as 1 gigabyte main memory provide for maximum compatibility and a remarkable performance. Genuine multitasking makes the WeTab operating system possible, which basedly on established technologies and which use of common technologies supports such as Java and Adobe AIR. Hear music, if you surf by the Internet and you jump arbitrary from an application to the next. Without having to take thereby a hand of the equipment - to navigate you can comfortably with the thumbs.
Their messages. Live and personalisiert.

With the WeTab you experience your dearest newspapers and magazines as in the print format - plus all the advantages the digital processing. Their personal messages come into real time to you, erfahrbar for all your senses: Articles read, Podcasts hear, videos look. To be silent from affecting completely.

WeTab applications
The WeTab possesses an open platform and supports established technologies, so that developers in all world can invent applications (Apps) for you. The WeTab net curtain supports the integration of Apps from open net curtains such as Android or Adobe AIR Marketplace. Browse by innumerable applications, which the WeTab net curtain holds ready for you - from the Web radio over the Videotelephonie up to the extensive play collection. With only one click the applications thereby fully automatic for you are installed.

Internet
Experience the Internet like never before
On the WeTab expects you:


Web browser
HTML5 and Flash able browsers. Owing to user-friendly thumb navigation you experience the Internet like never before.


Photo
Raus from the camera, purely in the WeTab: Owing to SD/SDHC Cardreader and USB interface you can your photos directly archive, edit and present.


Hp video
The WeTab supports all usual video formats. In addition you can enjoy your films over an externally attached DVD drive assembly - and in hp -.


Music
Support of all usual formats. Music of internal and of external memory can be played directly on the WeTab.


Internet

EBook reader
The open platform of the WeTab supports the usual eBook formats: ePub, pdf, TXT, Mobipocket, WeBook Premium.


Open Office
The before-installed open Office package integrates text processing, spread-sheet analysis and presentations and supports Microsoft Office formats. Their files can edit you directly from the USB stick.


Search
Integrated universal search with WeFind on the equipment and in external sources.


Tools
From the calendar to the pocket calculator all kinds of useful is already before-installed for you."

extendedping 2010-09-07 15:58

Re: will the WeTab due next month be based on meego?
 
can you drop to shell? and do stuff as root? probably not right?

tissot 2010-09-07 16:09

Re: will the WeTab due next month be based on meego?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nilchak (Post 809501)
The sceptical side of me is now a little incredulous that the WeTab guys say it will run Java apps, Air, Flash and nearly everything you throw at it. Will wait to see it and believe it.

Exactly.
HW actually looks to be pretty damn nice. It's the UI and support that i'm not 100% sure here.
I really don't usually go for these type of smaller company made gadgets and at first i passed this right away, but it is actually looking pretty good. Still a bit hard to jump to a bandwagon as i'm sure we will see some MeeGo tablet loving from bigger boys this year.

aironeous 2010-09-07 16:16

Re: will the WeTab due next month be based on meego?
 
Wetab Website
http://wetab.mobi/en/shop

Demos of the various aspects of the ui
http://wetab.mobi/en/gallery

Ok well vids don't seem to be working for me on that page but here is their youtube channel.
http://www.youtube.com/WeTabChannel

So does it come with that nifty stand or not? I wanna know....

Oh just watched their channel that's f'n bad duuuuuuuudde!
With the right side thumb task bar that slides....
That should be a standard option UI that you can chose along with the pre alpha version we saw before.

Here is their facebook.
http://www.facebook.com/WeTab?v=photos

Here is another german youtube hands on vid (part 1 of 2) at some sort of convention.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MLOc...eature=related
Part 2 of 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPlVo...eature=related

In German comparison to ipad.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpF3W...eature=related

jflatt 2010-09-07 16:33

Re: will the WeTab due next month be based on meego?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by extendedping (Post 809697)
can you drop to shell? and do stuff as root? probably not right?

Yes, of course
http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?t=1266&page=3

extendedping 2010-09-07 16:59

Re: will the WeTab due next month be based on meego?
 
nice I just hope it is not crippled openbox or whatever it is called on the n900.

aironeous 2010-09-07 17:23

Re: will the WeTab due next month be based on meego?
 
Delivery has started as of July per this page.
http://wetab.mobi/en/events
It also shows first mass delivery in September so maybe I'll just pre-order from amazon.de

SAABoy 2010-09-07 18:05

Re: will the WeTab due next month be based on meego?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TH3ORY (Post 809150)
Wepad Looks Awesome it’s already on sale Amazon Germany in-depth video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyyfL8f0bhA

Wow? This has got to be the most annoying review ever? I know what I'm saying, but it also has to end like a question? But I am holding a cool tablet, so you will keep watching me?

Sorry :P I've had many native German-speaking friends who don't speak english like this!

ossipena 2010-09-07 18:21

Re: will the WeTab due next month be based on meego?
 
this looks really bad.. I might be 550eur poorer this year....

SAABoy 2010-09-07 18:50

Re: will the WeTab due next month be based on meego?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ossipena (Post 809862)
this looks really bad.. I might be 550eur poorer this year....

X2. This looks great... Uh oh. So much for saving for new mobo, audio card, and speaker system...

EDIT: But I am tempted to wait. Will Nokia be making tablet-hardware paired with MeeGo OS?

TH3ORY 2010-09-07 23:40

Re: will the WeTab due next month be based on meego?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ossipena (Post 809862)
this looks really bad.. I might be 550eur poorer this year....

LOL Same Here but who Cares :)

zehjotkah 2010-09-08 05:37

Re: will the WeTab due next month be based on meego?
 
If someone lives near Berlin in Germany, we'll show the WeTab on the next mobile freidae at the c-base in Berlin.
Detailed informations will show up on the mobile freidae's website soon: http://mobilefreidae.org

pycage 2010-09-08 06:25

Re: will the WeTab due next month be based on meego?
 
I guess I know what gadget to buy next. :D

mannakiosk 2010-09-08 10:06

Re: will the WeTab due next month be based on meego?
 
Without taking the time to try to google it myself....

Has anyone got information on battery life, heat, noise?

twigleaf1976 2010-09-08 10:56

Re: will the WeTab due next month be based on meego?
 
It's Meego, am I the only one thinking apps? support?

It's Nokia and Intel together on an OS. Intel have never released an OS to market and Nokia released Maemo. Hardly something to shout about.

Yet people are raving about it already and it is yet to survive the wild.

Then again.

http://www.androidpads.co.uk/wetab-android-os-pad/ (sounds like it was based on prototypes)
http://www.frequencycast.co.uk/wetab.html
http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/3298...ng-out-in-july (mentions android prototypes)

They cast doubt on it being Meego anyway, so perhaps I might take a look with android on board. If the prototypes actually run android it won't be long till someone releases official android. Which means an app store and support.

Perhaps in a few months you can choose your OS when you buy it. That would be nice.

zehjotkah 2010-09-08 11:02

Re: will the WeTab due next month be based on meego?
 
Android is included as a VM.
Heat: You can use it in direct sunshine on a hot summer day without problems, thanks to:
noise: there is a fan built-in which will only turn on if needed. I haven't heard it once.
battery life: depends of course on the usage. count with 6 to 8 hours surfing the web over 3G or WLAN.


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