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imperiallight 2010-09-09 10:27

Nokia n9 delayed?
 
No show at Nokia world apparently.

http://www.knowyourmobile.com/blog/5...e_delayed.html

pycage 2010-09-09 10:32

Re: Nokia n9 delayed?
 
How can it be delayed if it was not even announced yet?
Officially this thing doesn't exist.

cjp 2010-09-09 10:37

Re: Nokia n9 delayed?
 
Where are the sources on this piece of news? Totally unreliable information.

tzsm98 2010-09-09 10:59

Re: Nokia n9 delayed?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cjp (Post 811550)
Where are the sources on this piece of news? Totally unreliable information.

There seems to be a part of Maemo culture that believes being first and being negative about Nokia is at least if not more important than being correct.

In honor of that part of the culture I suggest that the perceived delay in this un-announced product is a good thing. That way you'll have a longer lead time and possibly a longer future post-release period to whine about everything about the N9.

mcderment 2010-09-09 12:05

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'Nokia insiders' is what is being reported and on more than one website.

Does the old chinese rule come into play at some point?

Sopwith 2010-09-09 12:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pycage (Post 811548)
How can it be delayed if it was not even announced yet?
Officially this thing doesn't exist.

Oh, please! Nobody said "officially delayed". If it is announced any slower than what we expect, then it is delayed. When is it coming if not during Nokia World?

PS. I read the linked article. Nov 15 in Dublin sounds plausible. Not much of a delay.

Stonik 2010-09-09 12:19

Re: Nokia n9 delayed?
 
I think the reason is simple. Nokia really needs to build a momentum for N8 (and Symbian^3), which is supposed to be their top-selling mainstream smartphone for now. By announcing N9 they would totally ruin it.

The more clever way is to leak some blurry pictures, rumored specs and stuff like that, until the device is fully finished. That's the way how N9 stays in the headlines even though it's not even released.

maxximuscool 2010-09-09 12:20

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Delay is good, as long they brushing out the rustiness and becoming something nice and slick.

Hopefully we will see A9 in this N9 and a very drooling specs

tissot 2010-09-09 12:22

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Eldar said yesterday that N9 would not be introduced in Nokia World so i guess the info is from there. He also said that the device would get delayed release till q1.
I'm starting to believe too that N9 will not be introduced in NW, not sure about the release date as Eldar said the same about 5800 and N900 that both did come out Q4 but did come out in Q1 in Russia thought.

Sopwith 2010-09-09 12:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by maxximuscool (Post 811626)
Delay is good, as long they brushing out the rustiness and becoming something nice and slick.

Hopefully we will see A9 in this N9 and a very drooling specs

I don't think the delay will lead to better hardware specs -- those are likely set in stone by now. The software may mature during the extra time though...

Sopwith 2010-09-09 12:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tissot (Post 811628)
Eldar said yesterday that N9 would not be introduced in Nokia World so i guess the info is from there. He also said that the device would get delayed release till q1...

Eldar again! :eek:

Well, no reason to complain that N900 was too short-lived then. More than a year between its release and the next model. :D

cjp 2010-09-09 12:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tzsm98 (Post 811563)
There seems to be a part of Maemo culture that believes being first and being negative about Nokia is at least if not more important than being correct.

Look, get real with life, man. You can't go around believing everything you read on the internet.

andyr0ck 2010-09-09 12:29

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pff. from the article:

"According to “Nokia insiders” the MeeGo-powered N9, which was thought to be airing at Nokia World, has been delayed."

"Many experts felt that Nokia World would be a MeeGo-fest"

see the familiar theme? 'experts' and 'insiders' making assumptions and speculations that are wrong. well, isn't that surprising? tech pundits are given far too much credit, in my opinion. (which, by the way, is all they're giving you: their opinion.)

gerbick 2010-09-09 12:41

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With so many pieces still not refined (that we know of), a delay would be advantageous for Nokia; especially pertaining Ovi Store and other parts that should be up, running and polished before the release of a so-called step 5 of 5 device.

Bratag 2010-09-09 19:46

Re: Nokia n9 delayed?
 
Business as usual for Nokia it would seem. They REALLY need to learn to not say ANYTHING until its set in stone.

zehjotkah 2010-09-09 19:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bratag (Post 811943)
Business as usual for Nokia it would seem. They REALLY need to learn to not say ANYTHING until its set in stone.

They haven't said anything regarding the N9...
Officially the Nokia N9 does not exist. So it can't be delayed or canceled.

nilchak 2010-09-09 20:05

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The momemnt such thread come out the "Official" word is bandied around a lot.

In todays world there is no Official word to start the ball rolling. Its these leaks and blogosphere interest which is inddicative of a product's existance. Any company will not say it exists untill they say it exists - so that is a moot point.

But the leaks about a product are always near the official word and herald an official announcement. That the way the market works these days.

So if there is a long period between such initial leaks and the official word - that to all purposes (not "official" purpose) is a delay.

IsaacDFP 2010-09-09 20:10

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When the N9 comes out, its technology will be outdated... Sure it's impressive right now, but it won't be by 2012 :(
Im sure by the time the N9 actually releases, we will be talking about the N10

imperiallight 2010-09-09 20:18

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"A Nokia representative, responding to this story, told mobil.se that while Nokia did say that they will present a new phone with MeeGo on board in 2010, they never said when exactly that will happen. In other words, “what delay?”. And if you look at it this way, they’re right. However, I’m sure that some kind of target date was set internally. And that appears to have been Nokia World, as expected."

maluka 2010-09-09 20:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by IsaacDFP (Post 811962)
When the N9 comes out, its technology will be outdated... Sure it's impressive right now, but it won't be by 2012 :(
Im sure by the time the N9 actually releases, we will be talking about the N10

That's a load of crap. No specs have been announced. No device has been announced either.

btw, the N900 was the best specced device on the market when it came out and it still holds its own against the competition a year later.

imperiallight 2010-09-09 20:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by maluka (Post 811975)
btw, the N900 was the best specced device on the market when it came out

More false fanboy pedddled BS. I don't think its resistive touchscreen, lack of compass and gargantuan weight and dimensions really set the world alight.

The HD2 was better for a start.

Stonik 2010-09-09 20:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by maluka (Post 811975)
That's a load of crap. No specs have been announced. No device has been announced either.

btw, the N900 was the best specced device on the market when it came out and it still holds its own against the competition a year later.

That's true, and if you want to have the ultimate top notch device with the latest hardware, you would have to buy a new device every 3 or 4 months. One reason for this is Android, as manufacturers have to do something to make their latest flagship device to stand out from the competition. Usually this means just improving the hardware specs, as they all are using the same Android OS.

In general I don't mind if N9 comes a bit later than it was thought. It isn't necessarily that bad for N900.

wmarone 2010-09-09 20:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by imperiallight (Post 811987)
More false fanboy pedddled BS. I don't think its resistive touchscreen and gargantuan weight and dimensions really set the world alight.

The HD2 was better for a start.

Unfortunate about that whole Windows Mobile thing, eh?

imperiallight 2010-09-09 20:41

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Unfortunate about that whole Windows Mobile thing, eh?
Unfortunate indeed but still true. Fast forward to now and it is still a better device with Android 2.2 and USB host working as good as native, shame eh?

wmarone 2010-09-09 20:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by imperiallight (Post 812003)
shame eh?

Not really, just means the users get more out of their device than they otherwise would.

Doesn't make me hate the N900, and I don't think I'll ever be jealous of an Android device so long as it, you know, runs Android.

But go ahead, wage your Nokia hate campaign. TMO needs more of it.

IsaacDFP 2010-09-09 21:12

Re: Nokia n9 delayed?
 
Samsung is coming out with dual-core chips for mobile devices... and the lack of HDMI doesn't make me agree with the best spec'd device... Although no disrespect, the N900 is still the best device out there, but it is getting a bit hardware outdated... And yes i would buy out a device every 4-6 months, cuz im obsessed with technology, lol, but until now nothing rivals the N900 other than the N9. I feel in love with Maemo, and cannot go with Android or Symbian :(

Aztekker 2010-09-10 00:06

Re: Nokia n9 delayed?
 
I have an HD2 and it is probably one of the worst phones high-end phones I have ever owned. Poor audio, mediocre RF radio, poor battery life, poor build quality. The only good things about it are that big screen, it's thiness, and that HTC/WinMo can do a proper Bluetooth implementation. My N900 is a much better piece of equipment.

NvyUs 2010-09-10 00:38

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the original news source came from a Swedish site, eldar only came out with is stuff b/c ppl discussing the story from Sweden.
I still believe we will see a device released in December.
Eldar also came out with some other BS like nokia had no money to develop Symbian^4 and MeeGo at same time so one will be late, No money what a load of crock, also its two different teams its not like one team does both and they all working for one platform at the moment.
BTW Eldar replied to someone few hours later they will show the device but not deliver to market this year, honestly how can anyone believe this guy he changes mind daily based on whats in press, he just wants to be important.

imperiallight 2010-09-10 00:49

Re: Nokia n9 delayed?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Aztekker (Post 812168)
poor battery life, poor build quality.

The build quality of the HD2 is excellent IMO. The battery life is fine as well relative to a power sapping display.

Quote:

My N900 is a much better piece of equipment.
If you are implying the above points are in comparison to the n900 you need your head checked.

cjp 2010-09-10 05:07

Re: Nokia n9 delayed?
 
Well the thing about the N900 isn't even the specs, its what all you can do with the device. Plus web-browsing is still nearly completely unrivalled.

I think Nokia has so much riding on their MeeGo device, that it makes sense that Nokia would want to perfect it before releasing it out for the public to see and talk about. So thinking like this, a no-show at Noka World would seem acceptable.

But what would then be the other suitable announcement date and place? The MeeGo Developer Summit? I doubt it, not enough press value, not a venue big enough to introduce the world to the future of Nokia.

ossipena 2010-09-10 05:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by imperiallight (Post 811987)
resistive touchscreen

so you answer to BS with more BS? (this resistive vs capacitive has been discussed here million times already...)

Quote:

Originally Posted by imperiallight (Post 811987)
lack of compass and gargantuan weight and dimensions really set the world alight.

The HD2 was better for a start.

how do you get the qwerty -keyboard out from HD2? I looked a lot photos but didn't manage to get it.

so only point left standing is *drums*
-lack of compass

theonelaw 2010-09-10 06:30

Re: Nokia n9 delayed?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by maluka (Post 811975)
...
btw, the N900 was the best specced device on the market when it came out and it still holds its own against the competition a year later.

Ditto to that - I can do stuff from the N900 CLI that _____ fanbois
cannot even imagine.
(Like troubleshoot and mend a broken data server from 20km away.)

Back on topic I heard the delay is so they can run a wad of N8s
before they release the N9, this from an industry expert who
has an friend inside the N* marketing, hoping to ramp pre-orders
to gauge how many to build...:cool:

And if you believe that, you will also fall for the 'wait for the N9.1"
gagline which starts when the N9 hits online marketing.

And finally, dear friends, I have an acquaintance who was tragically married
to a Nigerian colonel with 12.5million Euros in the bank when he thankfully died
(without a will, of course) in a suspicious trainwreck
while on a mission to feed and clothe hungry children in....:D

Venemo 2010-09-10 07:01

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So, an unannounced but speculated device (of which we only have a bunch of possibly photoshoped images) is now speculated to be delayed...

There is no proof about when the N9 is going to be launched, so noone can prove the delay either.

This is all pure speculation, and I'm having none of it.

imperiallight 2010-09-10 08:46

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Quote:

so only point left standing is *drums*
-lack of compass
Lets see from memory of having both devices...

HD2 specs vs N900 specs

* Thinnest device for its screen size to date vs fattest phone created in last three years, qwerty or otherwise (well I haven't checked but I am probably right)
* Compass vs no compass
* 576 Mb Ram vs 256 MB Ram
* Steel/Carbon fibre construction vs some kind of plastic
* 1ghz CPU overclockable to 1.3GHZ vs 600Mhz overclockable to 1.1 Ghz (well some devices anyway)
* Capacitative mutitouch vs resistive screen (don't add your prehistoric views when every phone is headed this way, I bet you were the same with touchscreens)
*USB host vs no USB host
*157 grams vs 181 grams
* Scratch resistant screen vs easy scratch screen
* Sturdy USB port build vs Falling out USB port issue
* 4.3" screen vs 3.5" screen (and its meant to be a tablet)
Memory is micro SD upgradeable but one area its beaten

ossipena 2010-09-10 08:58

Re: Nokia n9 delayed?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by imperiallight (Post 812431)
Lets see from memory of having both devices...

HD2 specs vs N900 specs

* Thinnest device for its screen size to date vs fattest phone created in last three years, qwerty or otherwise (well I haven't checked but I am probably right)
* Compass vs no compass
* 576 Mb Ram vs 256 MB Ram
* Steel/Carbon fibre construction vs some kind of plastic
* 1ghz CPU overclockable to 1.3GHZ vs 600Mhz overclockable to 1.1 Ghz (well some devices anyway)
* Capacitative mutitouch vs resistive screen (don't add your prehistoric views when every phone is headed this way, I bet you were the same with touchscreens)
*USB host vs no USB host
*157 grams vs 181 grams
* Scratch resistant screen vs easy scratch screen
* Sturdy USB port build vs Falling out USB port issue
* 4.3" screen vs 3.5" screen (and its meant to be a tablet)
Memory is micro SD upgradeable but one area its beaten

your specs are "a bit" biased. please try again or I won't even bother.

imperiallight 2010-09-10 09:07

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But go ahead, wage your Nokia hate campaign. TMO needs more of it.
My bashing of Nokia for its lack of support and false promises is a side issue. What is more shocking is that supposed scientists (which you have to be to operate the damn thing) fail to face facts and would rather mindlessly multi-thank illogical and misinformed posts.

NvyUs 2010-09-10 09:11

Re: Nokia n9 delayed?
 
what as HD2 and N900 got to do with N9 delayed topic

imperiallight 2010-09-10 09:16

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what has HD2 and N900 got to do with N9 delayed topic
That the specs of the n9 is going to be less than remarkable the longer it takes to come out. And that the n900 was not the best specced device on its release as some are claiming.

NvyUs 2010-09-10 09:20

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HD2 was announced 7 months after N900

imperiallight 2010-09-10 09:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by NvyUs (Post 812457)
HD2 was announced 7 months after N900

I think you need some remedial history sessions.

HD2 announced October released November.
N900 announced August released November.


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