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tissot 2010-09-10 17:36
Re: Firmware 1.3 on its way????
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by kevinp93 (Post 812840)
True Say.. But remember the time when we could ask 'Niklas Savander' questions via Twitter? Many people asked questions regarding Maemo.. So there is a slight chance, that there might be something new...

Oh yeah.. And btw wasn't it Anssi Vanjoki who promised us Ovi Maps with Navigation?? He is scheduled to have a talk, so once again, there is a slight chance for surprises...
:)
It's anyway the execs who introduce the new devices and software in Nokia World usually so you are right that not having specific Maemo/MeeGo speaker like Ari Jaaksi who leads Nokia's MeeGo/Maemo part doesn't mean we wouldn't see Maemo announcement.

I woulnd't expect Maemo specific announcements, but maybe example qt written OVI maps that will be available in S^3 and Maemo devices.
Meh we will see in September 14. :)

ZogG 2010-09-10 17:41
Re: Firmware 1.3 on its way????
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stonik (Post 812852)
I actually wish Nokia would use N900 more as an experimental platform, to test new things from Beta Labs for example. There are plenty of users in the N900 community who would love to test new things that Nokia has to offer.
they do experiment on N900, didn't you see all the stuff on youtube channel, we just don't get anything of it, that's all =)

Laughing Man 2010-09-10 17:43
Re: Firmware 1.3 on its way????
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by matthew maude (Post 812867)
wouldn't it make sense to release pr1.3 alongside the N8 so all the devs can get straight on it, then they can pick the best apps out ready for meego
Considering the N8 runs Symbian and won't even be QT compatible why would it matter if it comes out when the N8 does? It's N9 that will be running Meego-Harmattan.

gixx 2010-09-10 17:45
Re: Firmware 1.3 on its way????
 
When PR1.3 Come up may be some application not worked?

- multi boot?
- WiFi Hot Spot?
- FileBox?

matthew maude 2010-09-10 17:46
Re: Firmware 1.3 on its way????
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Laughing Man (Post 812873)
Considering the N8 runs Symbian and won't even be QT compatible why would it matter if it comes out when the N8 does? It's N9 that will be running Meego-Harmattan.
i thought the new symbian were gonna be qt compatible :s
maybe i should pay more attention:)

msa 2010-09-10 17:49
Re: Firmware 1.3 on its way????
 
... come on.
even duke nukem forever is coming! its impossible that 1.3 isnt :D
even if its month away, i'll keep my fingers crossed.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Stonik (Post 812803)
This is almost too much, first an update for Twitter widget and then Gas Balls.
anything recent, or just some devel-updates? i'm not shown any updates :O

Stonik 2010-09-10 17:54
Re: Firmware 1.3 on its way????
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by silvermountain (Post 812857)
I think the issue here is that they would have to develop for - and gather feedback from - an OS and h/w platform that are both dead.
Not sure how much that would aid in any beta labs efforts.
Well, that's one way to see it. However, there are still "a few" more people using Maemo 5 than MeeGo. And they are still selling N900. Then there's Qt.

One of the key things is the competition, public beta testing on something that might interest other manufacturers is always a risk.

Stonik 2010-09-10 17:57
Re: Firmware 1.3 on its way????
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by matthew maude (Post 812878)
i thought the new symbian were gonna be qt compatible :s
maybe i should pay more attention:)
Me too. http://blogs.forum.nokia.com/blog/no...per-experience

colm.smyth 2010-09-10 17:58
Re: Firmware 1.3 on its way????
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Laughing Man (Post 812873)
Considering the N8 runs Symbian and won't even be QT compatible why would it matter if it comes out when the N8 does? It's N9 that will be running Meego-Harmattan.
the N8 is based around QT, for example Gravity on N8 is written in QT and it looks brilliant

ysss 2010-09-10 17:58
Re: Firmware 1.3 on its way????
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wichall (Post 812826)
My big handwriting has always helped me with the ladies, I'll have you know.

Bigger is always better.
I can only assume that you like to catch farsighted cougars?

jacktanner 2010-09-10 18:05
Re: Firmware 1.3 on its way????
 
If you have been following Bugzilla, bugs have been getting closed as "fixed in the next public update" ever since PR1.2 came out. So yes, there will be a PR 1.3. Nobody knows when.

As for the symlink on repository.maemo.org... Note that that's a symlink in *extras*, i.e., in the community repo, not the Nokia one. That symlink could've been made months ago or never made at all, and it wouldn't matter to Nokia either way.

Can we now have some more big handwriting? Makes me feel all tingly for some reason.

matthew maude 2010-09-10 18:05
Re: Firmware 1.3 on its way????
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by colm.smyth (Post 812888)
the N8 is based around QT, for example Gravity on N8 is written in QT and it looks brilliant
so am i right in thinking that maemo, meego and symbian are all qt based therefore it just takes one set of apps, hardware dependant for all 3 which will hopefully mean voice navigation for the N900:D

Hotshot 2010-09-10 18:05
Re: Firmware 1.3 on its way????
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ZogG (Post 812872)
they do experiment on N900, didn't you see all the stuff on youtube channel, we just don't get anything of it, that's all =)
I don't know how many QT test apps I've seen on youtube as well that I've been waiting to pop up in the repos :mad:

matthew maude 2010-09-10 18:07
Re: Firmware 1.3 on its way????
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jacktanner (Post 812893)
If you have been following Bugzilla, bugs have been getting closed as "fixed in the next public update" ever since PR1.2 came out. So yes, there will be a PR 1.3. Nobody knows when.

As for the symlink on repository.maemo.org... Note that that's a symlink in *extras*, i.e., in the community repo, not the Nokia one. That symlink could've been made months ago or never made at all, and it wouldn't matter to Nokia either way.

Can we now have some more big handwriting? Makes me feel all tingly for some reason.
please, no more big writing, i'm viewing this on my N900

aikon800 2010-09-10 18:21
Re: Firmware 1.3 on its way????
 
just give us PORTRAIT MODE and we will be quiet :D


...for a while ...

atilla 2010-09-10 18:25
Re: Firmware 1.3 on its way????
 
wow pr1.3 news and 113 viewing members.
common guys stop hoping it will be available soon.
we know it will come but not in the next months.
to the op:
are you the real chuck norris?;)

Uxi 2010-09-10 18:27
Re: Firmware 1.3 on its way????
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by colm.smyth (Post 812888)
the N8 is based around QT, for example Gravity on N8 is written in QT and it looks brilliant
I specifically asked Janole if he used QT and he said he ported the old code, so unfortunately not.

arora.rohan 2010-09-10 18:28
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if it were real chuck norris.. pr2.0 wouldve been out ! :)

atilla 2010-09-10 18:37
Re: Firmware 1.3 on its way????
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by arora.rohan (Post 812907)
if it were real chuck norris.. pr2.0 wouldve been out ! :)
ok you're right:)
oh yes and here are some other epic pr1.3 news
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32UGD0fV45g&translated=1

Laughing Man 2010-09-10 18:56
Re: Firmware 1.3 on its way????
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by matthew maude (Post 812878)
i thought the new symbian were gonna be qt compatible :s
maybe i should pay more attention:)
Symbian 4 is. Symbian 3 (which I think is what the N8 runs will not).

Quote:
Originally Posted by colm.smyth (Post 812888)
the N8 is based around QT, for example Gravity on N8 is written in QT and it looks brilliant
I don't think the N8 has the QT compatibility.

Quote:
Originally Posted by matthew maude (Post 812894)
so am i right in thinking that maemo, meego and symbian are all qt based therefore it just takes one set of apps, hardware dependant for all 3 which will hopefully mean voice navigation for the N900:D
It's not the OS that's QT compatible (well maemo isn't, and I don't think Symbian is). But they have QT compatibility thus compatible apps can be brought from platform to platform.

Theoretically if they could get into Android and iPhone (with Apple's loosening restrictions) a developer could make an app in QT and output it for everything. =P

(a guy can dream huh?)

pantera1989 2010-09-10 19:07
Re: Firmware 1.3 on its way????
 
What are you talking about Symbian 3 will have QT...
http://www.symbian.org/symbian-featu...eases/symbian3

Laughing Man 2010-09-10 19:23
Re: Firmware 1.3 on its way????
 
Ah ok, I was wrong then.

efekt 2010-09-10 19:46
Re: Firmware 1.3 on its way????
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Laughing Man (Post 812926)
It's not the OS that's QT compatible (well maemo isn't, and I don't think Symbian is). But they have QT compatibility thus compatible apps can be brought from platform to platform.
You're very decisively wrong :)
From this slideshow:

http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/986/52373293.png

Edit: uh, and to complete the picture:

http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/5351/47720150.png

Laughing Man 2010-09-10 19:55
Re: Firmware 1.3 on its way????
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by efekt (Post 812949)
You're very decisively wrong :)
From this slideshow:

http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/986/52373293.png

Edit: uh, and to complete the picture:

http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/5351/47720150.png
I don't think that says the OS is built in QT. Rather that they're QT compatible so they can run QT apps. The only OS I know of that will be built with QT is Meego.

tissot 2010-09-10 20:10
Re: Firmware 1.3 on its way????
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Laughing Man (Post 812956)
I don't think that says the OS is built in QT. Rather that they're QT compatible so they can run QT apps. The only OS I know of that will be built with QT is Meego.
Well the MeeGo netbook UX is build around GTK. The not yet released MeeGo handheld UX, Symbian^4 and Nokia's MeeGo-Harmattan are build on Qt.

ossipena 2010-09-10 20:15
Re: Firmware 1.3 on its way????
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stonik (Post 812852)
I actually wish Nokia would use N900 more as an experimental platform, to test new things from Beta Labs for example. There are plenty of users in the N900 community who would love to test new things that Nokia has to offer.
do you mean stuff like frankencamera api? Qtmobility?

It would be really cool to get stuff like that to my n900. Oh wait...

Dave999 2010-09-10 20:15
Re: Firmware 1.3 on its way????
 
Of course it is since PR 1.2 is out. But when? Not today thats dor sure.

pplo 2010-09-10 20:18
Re: Firmware 1.3 on its way????
 
so....

may I reassemble my N900?? i love to play w/ the inner parts...
Just kidding, i´m from Brazil and I´m glad nokia just released n900 here, so I think they have plans for it here....
I don´t think nokia would do that if they were planning to trash it soon..
but this post made me be more hopefull for the n900 future.

ossipena 2010-09-10 20:18
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os written in qt doesnt matter. All that matters is that os is compatible to standard qt apis and off you go with compiling

Shinigamijim 2010-09-10 20:46
Re: Firmware 1.3 on its way????
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Milhouse (Post 812854)
Nokia World speaker: "And the N900 will be getting PR1.3 with Qt 4.7 and lots of bug fixes.... Oh and just one more thing - it will come with Flash Player 10.1"

(Bloke at the back of the crowd wearing sandals, t-shirt a shaggy beard and maybe a ponytail goes wild)*.

* This isn't me! :)
lol! it will a dream come true for all of uss.

ceroberts75 2010-09-10 20:46
Re: Firmware 1.3 on its way????
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jacktanner (Post 812893)
If you have been following Bugzilla, bugs have been getting closed as "fixed in the next public update" ever since PR1.2 came out. So yes, there will be a PR 1.3. Nobody knows when.

As for the symlink on repository.maemo.org... Note that that's a symlink in *extras*, i.e., in the community repo, not the Nokia one. That symlink could've been made months ago or never made at all, and it wouldn't matter to Nokia either way.

Can we now have some more big handwriting? Makes me feel all tingly for some reason.
please post the bugzilla for this.

thankyou.

jacktanner 2010-09-10 20:55
Re: Firmware 1.3 on its way????
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ceroberts75 (Post 813001)
please post the bugzilla for this.

thankyou.
Search for the weekly reports of bugzilla activity posted to this forum (by sjgadsby, perhaps?) Then look at the section on bugs that were fixed in the past week. Then look at the final comments on those bugs. You'll find notes from Andre Klapper to the extent of "This bug was fixed in the internal release v. X. The fix will be part of the next public release, the date for which has not been announced."

roger_27 2010-09-10 20:56
Re: Firmware 1.3 on its way????
 
please kill this thread before it reachs 200 pages...

ceroberts75 2010-09-10 21:43
Re: Firmware 1.3 on its way????
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jacktanner (Post 813016)
Search for the weekly reports of bugzilla activity posted to this forum (by sjgadsby, perhaps?) Then look at the section on bugs that were fixed in the past week. Then look at the final comments on those bugs. You'll find notes from Andre Klapper to the extent of "This bug was fixed in the internal release v. X. The fix will be part of the next public release, the date for which has not been announced."
hmph...no luck with that one. found the links, but couldnt find the andre klapper with the quote.

:/

tnhh 2010-09-10 22:26
Re: Firmware 1.3 on its way????
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ceroberts75 (Post 813043)
hmph...no luck with that one. found the links, but couldnt find the andre klapper with the quote.

:/
Here is an example.

Milhouse 2010-09-10 23:14
Re: Firmware 1.3 on its way????
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Laughing Man (Post 812956)
I don't think that says the OS is built in QT. Rather that they're QT compatible so they can run QT apps. The only OS I know of that will be built with QT is Meego.
Please, quit while you're ahead - you obviously don't know what you are talking about and you are scaring the children.

Qt (note the lowercase t) is a run-time, it is not something you use "to build" an OS. It sits on top of an OS, any OS, that's it beauty.

Qt will come as standard with Symbian^3 and Maemo/MeeGo. Qt can be installed on earlier versions of Symbian S60 using the smart software download facility.

Helmuth 2010-09-11 00:51
Re: Firmware 1.3 on its way????
 
I hope it is NOT comming next week. This would imply bad news at the 14th and 15th of September that Nokia wants to cover again at the Nokia World.

vivmak 2010-09-11 02:03
Re: Firmware 1.3 on its way????
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by chucknorris (Post 812782)
something that i am speculating..
soon n8 will be out in the market..so we will be getting the same maps on the n8 ported to our n900 coz its qt based..so we will hopefully have free navigation and better maps..
I wish the maps are out soon, as per Nokia ovi map developer's blogging site it only says ... be patient.:)

Laughing Man 2010-09-11 02:23
Re: Firmware 1.3 on its way????
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Milhouse (Post 813097)
Please, quit while you're ahead - you obviously don't know what you are talking about and you are scaring the children.

Qt (note the lowercase t) is a run-time, it is not something you use "to build" an OS. It sits on top of an OS, any OS, that's it beauty.

Qt will come as standard with Symbian^3 and Maemo/MeeGo. Qt can be installed on earlier versions of Symbian S60 using the smart software download facility.
I'm pretty sure that an OS' GUI can be built with gtk or qt (which is what I'm wondering about). But I could be wrong about that. But you are right how it's a set of runtime libraries included with the OS

dchky 2010-09-11 02:58
Re: Firmware 1.3 on its way????
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Laughing Man (Post 813181)
I'm pretty sure that an OS' GUI can be built with gtk or qt (which is what I'm wondering about). But I could be wrong about that. But you are right how it's a set of runtime libraries included with the OS
Ahh, you need to sift through the window manager vs windowing system flame wars first. : ) That'll give you a better appreciation for what things like Qt and GTK actually are, but also just how delicate the minefield of terminology can actually be.


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