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S0urcerr0r 2010-09-16 03:35

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Really sad news!
since nokia is a finnish company i prefer that the leaders of the company are from finland. there are alot of good intelligent people in finland and theres actually no good reason at all to import staff members from other countries.

its almost like a insult to the finnish people, what nokia does.
sending out a message to the finnish people that they apparantly arent good enough to be on the top ...or maybe the company just got infiltrated :-(

gerbick 2010-09-16 03:41

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Originally Posted by vkv.raju (Post 815385)
I still am not getting why people are not getting this right.

There would be no change in what Nokia is doing currently. Symbian^3, Symbian^4, Qt, MeeGo,etc. They all would remain the way they have been planned.

Elop is hired with a hope that he could be a showman for Nokia

I think that's the prob. Nobody is realistically expecting that anything will change for the upcoming software/hardware decisions; it's just that Anssi Vanjoki really was a good public face for Nokia. Even I could feel this dude's intensity about how much he enjoyed working at Nokia as well as how much he believed in their products. It was... sorta contagious.

That's my concern about his resignation in 6 months. His replacement will have to up the ante quite a bit to sell me as well as he did when he talked.

danramos 2010-09-16 03:53

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Originally Posted by allnameswereout (Post 816738)
Pump 'n dump of stock. Not rare really. Typical American, don't look further than your nose is long ;)

That's not my nose--and please stop staring. :)

Milhouse 2010-09-16 06:26

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Originally Posted by S0urcerr0r (Post 817455)
Really sad news!
since nokia is a finnish company i prefer that the leaders of the company are from finland. there are alot of good intelligent people in finland and theres actually no good reason at all to import staff members from other countries.

its almost like a insult to the finnish people, what nokia does.
sending out a message to the finnish people that they apparantly arent good enough to be on the top ...or maybe the company just got infiltrated :-(

It's a global corporation - deal with it. Global organisations choose the best people for a job based on ability, not nationality - Finns shouldn't be given preferential treatment, that would be classed as positive discrimination (which is illegal in many European countries) and it's this positively stupid employment tactic that has basically taken Nokia to the brink. Nokia when run by Finns is not good enough in the current market, that's a cast iron fact - no infiltration required, the Finns dropped the ball, nobody else.

More Finns should be removed from upper management within Nokia and if they are replaced by non-Finns it will almost certainly result in the quality bar being raised immeasurably.

Why the head of Design is a Finn I have no idea, what the hell have Finns ever designed? It all started going wrong with Nokia product designs when Frank Nuovo (an American, the head of Nokias Global Design team) left the company in 2006 to be replaced by... a Finn who knows nothing about product design. Rinse and repeat in pretty much every critical area of Nokia upper management.

Rauha 2010-09-16 06:42

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Originally Posted by droll (Post 817415)
http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/15/n...tware-follows/

hah, this is what people have been saying for so long. Nokia, the days of building a phone only are GONE. that was 10 years ago. people have moved on to services and applications.

Based on a Daring Fireball story...

ysss 2010-09-16 06:45

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That mantra is becoming a self fulfilling prophecy...

Rauha 2010-09-16 06:55

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Originally Posted by Milhouse (Post 817554)


Why the head of Design is a Finn I have no idea, what the hell have Finns ever designed? It all started going wrong with Nokia product designs when Frank Nuovo (an American, the head of Nokias Global Design team) left the company in 2006 to be replaced by... a Finn who knows nothing about product design. Rinse and repeat in pretty much every critical area of Nokia upper management.

Letting the rest of your clueless post rest in peace. Just pointing out that Frank Nuovo was replacerd by a brit, Alistair Curtis.

Milhouse 2010-09-16 07:02

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Originally Posted by Rauha (Post 817568)
Letting the rest of your clueless post rest in peace.

Clueless? So do you not believe a global organisation should pick and choose the best staff from around the globe? Or are you in favour of positive discrimination?

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Originally Posted by Rauha (Post 817568)
Just pointing out that Frank Nuovo was replacerd by a brit, Alistair Curtis.

What about Marko Ahtisaari?

slender 2010-09-16 07:05

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Originally Posted by Milhouse (Post 817554)
Why the head of Design is a Finn I have no idea, what the hell have Finns ever designed? It all started going wrong with Nokia product designs when Frank Nuovo (an American, the head of Nokias Global Design team) left the company in 2006 to be replaced by... a Finn who knows nothing about product design. Rinse and repeat in pretty much every critical area of Nokia upper management.

Are you seriously asking about that? Never heard of scandinavian design?

And about current desing of touchphones? IMO anyone. Yes anyone could do that shait. Itīs like letīs put this 3-4 inch screen and welllllll letīs try different materials and different corners and maybe keyboard or not. Ohh wow that pure genius. Every touchphone looks like one another to me. Little things but currently UI of smartphone has come the one aspect of design of whole product. Not a long ago it was how you place keyboard and man there was different approaches to that.

Iīm not saying that current design is bad but I do not see it as it needs any expertise. Next thing that might make things different are foldable and rollable displays.

Milhouse 2010-09-16 07:12

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Originally Posted by slender (Post 817578)
Are you seriously asking about that? Never heard of scandinavian design?

Yes, so it's a shame Finland isn't a part of Scandinavia, isn't it? (Look it up, it's a common misconception that Finland is part of Scandinavia - it's not).


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