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danramos 2010-09-16 17:42

Re: The end of the Nokia Smart phone dream
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by S0urcerr0r (Post 818067)
to topicstarter:

its sad that u leave, but many of us dont want to change our n900 to anything else.
i love hw keyb, i can chat/email properly - seeing the whole screen while i write.
easydebian
nitdroid for android - games and such
i love IR and FM transmitter
i dont want capacitive screen.
and for many more reasons

You shouldn't pretend to speak for everyone. I can just as easily point out that many of us (particularly the ITT folks) didn't want the N900 and preferred something better (not necessarily Android, iPhone, etc). I'd speculate that "many of us" even left to go off to Android after being fed up with Nokia and Maemo's many frustrations.

Grok 2010-09-16 18:02

Re: The end of the Nokia Smart phone dream
 
Quote:

to topicstarter:

its sad that u leave, but many of us dont want to change our n900 to anything else.
i love hw keyb, i can chat/email properly - seeing the whole screen while i write.
easydebian
nitdroid for android - games and such
i love IR and FM transmitter
i dont want capacitive screen.
and for many more reasons
Quote:

Originally Posted by danramos (Post 818092)
You shouldn't pretend to speak for everyone. I can just as easily point out that many of us (particularly the ITT folks) didn't want the N900 and preferred something better (not necessarily Android, iPhone, etc). I'd speculate that "many of us" even left to go off to Android after being fed up with Nokia and Maemo's many frustrations.

OK I want to play too!:D

I'll speculate that the original quoted speculator is more accurate in his speculation than the second speculator. This is because contented users are often less vocal than the unhappy users.

imperiallight 2010-09-16 18:18

Re: The end of the Nokia Smart phone dream
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by etuoyo (Post 817022)
Call me daft but it strikes me that a device which works out of the box is actually much smarter than a device which you need to spend ages tweaking just to be able it to get to a stable state and even then never actually getting there because some important parts of the device are closed and so cannot be tweaked.

lol, well put

S0urcerr0r 2010-09-16 18:23

Re: The end of the Nokia Smart phone dream
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by danramos (Post 818092)
You shouldn't pretend to speak for everyone.

sorry that u took it that way. thats why i wrote "many of us", not "all of us".
if your experience with the n900 is so bad that u cant endure reading positive comments, u must have had a really horrible experience.
once again "MANY of us" have experienced the n900 mainly positive.
sure - i spend some time now and then to reconsider the n900 if was a good or bad purchase... i compare with other newer phones but i always come to the same conclusion in the end... just imagining losing easy debian (+open office), ir, hw keyb, massive video codec support, FM transmitter, resistive touch screen (i consider capacitive less precise), maemos nice capabilities & interface, TI85 advanced graphing calculator, and all this while still having nitdroid as alternative (where vsync works), and much more...

just imagining losing all that stuff makes makesme realise why i chose the N900.

Quote:

Originally Posted by imperiallight (Post 818115)
lol, well put

sure the n900 could have gotten much better support than it has so far.
but on the other hand the n900 had things from the beginning that android users had to wait a very long time to get (mobile hotspot, flash ...etc). the n900 had all of this from the beginning and could therefore be considered androids "mother" :D

danramos 2010-09-16 18:52

Re: The end of the Nokia Smart phone dream
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by S0urcerr0r (Post 818120)
sorry that u took it that way. thats why i wrote "many of us", not "all of us".
if your experience with the n900 is so bad that u cant endure reading positive comments, u must have had a really horrible experience.
once again "MANY of us" have experienced the n900 mainly positive.
sure - i spend some time now and then to reconsider the n900 if was a good or bad purchase... i compare with other newer phones but i always come to the same conclusion in the end... just imagining losing easy debian (+open office), ir, hw keyb, massive video codec support, FM transmitter, resistive touch screen (i consider capacitive less precise), maemos nice capabilities & interface, TI85 advanced graphing calculator, and all this while still having nitdroid as alternative (where vsync works), and much more...

just imagining losing all that stuff makes makesme realise why i chose the N900.

sure the n900 could have gotten much better support than it has so far.
but on the other hand the n900 had things from the beginning that android users had to wait a very long time to get (mobile hotspot, flash ...etc). the n900 had all of this from the beginning and could therefore be considered androids "mother" :D

You shouldn't even speak for many of us. :) As Grok put it so well, you could claim just about anything and pretend to have the weight of everyone (or many) behind you.

I'm glad your experience with the N900 is so great that you can prance about aloof and dismiss all criticism despite anyone else's experiences. It doesn't make anyone else's opinions any less valid or wrong, however. :)

fnorum 2010-09-16 19:54

Re: The end of the Nokia Smart phone dream
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by danramos (Post 818163)
You shouldn't even speak for many of us. :) As Grok put it so well, you could claim just about anything and pretend to have the weight of everyone (or many) behind you.

I'm glad your experience with the N900 is so great that you can prance about aloof and dismiss all criticism despite anyone else's experiences. It doesn't make anyone else's opinions any less valid or wrong, however. :)

How is he dismissing all critism by stating how he enjoys using his device?

Some of the cars Ive loved the most have had the most flaws aswell.

I do not believe that most people particapating in this forum come here to make themselves depressed/frustrated by constantly needing to voice their anger which I believe would be the case if they disliked their device/OS so much. I sincerely hope thats is the case or else it would be all kinds of sad.

For myself the n900 is a perfect example of what Nokia mean when they say "Its not technology is what you do with it.", which corresponds well with the amount of Engadget articles the n900 has spawned.

danramos 2010-09-16 20:05

Re: The end of the Nokia Smart phone dream
 
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Originally Posted by fnorum (Post 818239)
How is he dismissing all critism by stating how he enjoys using his device?

Some of the cars Ive loved the most have had the most flaws aswell.

I do not believe that most people particapating in this forum come here to make themselves depressed/frustrated by constantly needing to voice their anger which I believe would be the case if they disliked their device/OS so much. I sincerely hope thats is the case or else it would be all kinds of sad.

For myself the n900 is a perfect example of what Nokia mean when they say "Its not technology is what you do with it.", which corresponds well with the amount of Engadget articles the n900 has spawned.

I already explained it back there--he dismisses the points that are raised by simply pointing out something along the lines of, "I don't see a problem!" It's the equivalent of saying, 'I CAN'T HEAR YOUUUUU', plugging your ears and going la-la-la. heh It's both silly and dismissing the issues because you don't want to hear them.

slender 2010-09-16 20:11

Re: The end of the Nokia Smart phone dream
 
Issues have priorities and priorities tend to be subjective. Remember that.

Grok 2010-09-16 20:20

Re: The end of the Nokia Smart phone dream
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by slender (Post 818258)
Issues have priorities and priorities tend to be subjective. Remember that.

:D I like! :D

deyons 2010-09-16 20:44

Re: The end of the Nokia Smart phone dream
 
its quite amazing this post went 19 pages long and the OP did not say specifically why he would never buy another nokia(I read all his post)
The only reason I seen was:" Nokia were definitely going for mainstream with the N900" but he was disappointed it did not.

If this is your only reason...Welcome to life buddy.


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