Re: The N900 is a mobile computer, ok, now how i convince other people?
 

The L3 & L4 service manual describes exactly what the N900 is - as do the other schematics and manuals. The people you show the N900 to are not going to read these, even if you keep copies handy everywhere you go...

Therefore, the appropriate answer is that you don't have to convince anyone of anything, and you shouldn't even try. You have nothing to prove, you know what the N900 is, if you like it great, if not, great. Let Nokia handle the rest.

Probably a better question to ask is why you feel the need to actively convince people your N900 doesn't fit some broken piece of marketing terminology anyway. : )

Re: The N900 is a mobile computer, ok, now how i convince other people?
 

i think this phone its half of two things: half computer, half telephone.

Re: The N900 is a mobile computer, ok, now how i convince other people?
 

which also shows them how quickly the battery drains :D

Re: The N900 is a mobile computer, ok, now how i convince other people?
 

That's actually what I did. I don't talk to much but I use browser/twitter/rss reader apps+lots of other stuff on N900. Although I have an external battery charger(x-pal thingy) I still kinda fear to be out of power on N900 in the situation I need to call or recieve one. Moreover, I find myself in the situations when I go somewhere outside for a short time but need a phone to make a call(for e.g. a shop) and carrying N900 isn't very handy(thou I like N900's weight)

That's why I have a dumb phone(tiny one so it doesn't take much space and I can put it everywhere).

For N900 I actually bought unlimited data plan. So N900 is now my 2nd PC.

Speaking to the topic, it's your own decision what phone to buy and use. I can't recall when last time I had to speak about things like "look my phone is better/your phone is worse because of bla-bla-bla"...
So I suggest stop bothering about this. If you are happy with it that's enough.

Re: The N900 is a mobile computer, ok, now how i convince other people?
 

I'm not sure I entirely follow you. If I format the data and cache on my phone (basically, reformat the phone's NVRAM containing my info) and then install a clean OS on it (say, Android 2.2), if I avoid logging into Google, I can run it just fine and it works as expected. I even install a bunch of apps without the Android market just fine (I just can't install purchased apps, but that obviously goes without saying). I've actually done this and let it stay that way for a good half a day to see what it's like--and it worked just fine without ANY Google interaction whatsoever. Stability was the least of my any problems I could have even considered.

If you intend to use paid apps, you DO need to log in to authorize those purchases, but if you intend to use purely open-sourced apps (like the one I linked to in my last reply to you) or free apps, you don't need the Android Market at all.

If I'm misunderstanding the situation, please let me know. I'll definitely agree that life is much easier if you agree to use Google and the Android Market, though, but you aren't forced to use it to have a usable phone with applications.

Re: The N900 is a mobile computer, ok, now how i convince other people?
 

X Terminal + Multitasking + Browser + Videoplayback without conversion

Re: The N900 is a mobile computer, ok, now how i convince other people?
 

Terminal + Multitasking + Browser + Videoplaback without conversion... that still describes many Android based PHONES. :P Try again.

Re: The N900 is a mobile computer, ok, now how i convince other people?
 

Oh, OK. But I suggest you don't install Ubuntu, or things like W$$$$$$, they are too fat.

Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it's fat and useless in some cases. So maybe it'd not be a good idea.

Just my opinion.

Re: The N900 is a mobile computer, ok, now how i convince other people?
 

But it's not a REAL computer if you can't run Microsoft Office on it, right?

Re: The N900 is a mobile computer, ok, now how i convince other people?
 

-wrong topic-