Re: Looks like Nokia really started to change :)
 

The shake up at Nokia is reassuring, but I'm torn on whether I like it or not. On the one hand Nokia focused on hardware first and software last. The hardware (to include the asethetics) are one of the main reasons I gravitated to Nokia smartphones, that and I didn't like the current iteration of iOs at the time.

I agree Nokia has been living under a rock, and their approach to competition was just ******ed. The N9 really breathes new hope into me. If they really push hard with Meego, and fullfill some of the promises they've made, I think they can learn from this and bounce back in regards to being relevant in an increasingly important market of the industry. The revenue Apple makes off of their app store alone justifies this competency.

So Nokia, embrace the new leadership, and lets see what you can do, and thanks for not telling us about it until after it's done.

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Re: Looks like Nokia really started to change :)
 

I think that Nokia needs to be blabbier, not more disciplined. It might want to convey the feeling that it is part of a community with users. That is not characterized by refusal to talk or discuss plans.

Re: Looks like Nokia really started to change :)
 

Hazy statements that "We're not talking about MeeGo because MeeGo devices aren't shipping yet" don't sound positive to me. More like "We're not talking MeeGo because we may be hoping you'll forget we ever mentioned it."

Since hiring Elop, I still haven't heard any statement from anyone supporting MeeGo. If Nokia is still serious about MeeGo they really need to make it perfectly clear. Someone should've already said - in strong, clear language - something to the effect of "MeeGo developers, future users, fear not! Hiring a wanker from M$ does not and will not change our commitment to MeeGo or Qt."

Re: Looks like Nokia really started to change :)
 

If they are not serious about MeeGo, they will shoot themselves on foot. Badly. With device shipping in 4 or 5 months there is no way they could create anything to replace it, should MeeGo devices be cancelled. Only options would be to move on with Win7 or Android, both lacking support for Qt and moving all development initiative out of Nokia's hands. So, going on with MeeGo is really only viable option for Nokia. It's unfortunate that many analysts seem to be in love with Android and see it as a panacea to solve every single problem Nokia has, one touted openly that Elop should change Nokia to use Android. That moment I thought someone really has shoved his head deep in his own a***...

However, I believe Elop knows this also, so I'm not that worried about the future of MeeGo. The way has been set already, Elop's job will be to refine Nokia's software development and practices to get things done efficiently and right. Nokia really cannot afford to flop on MeeGo, if that happens there is absolutely nothing saving them from total annihilation in (mostly american) media. Unfortunately, I think Nokia will never get praises even if it does things right... to me it seems like there is too deep cultural and philosophical difference.

Re: Looks like Nokia really started to change :)
 

No this is the wrong way to go. What they need is more discipline on the release schedule. Maybe be clearer in their messages outwards. And have better connection with the community.

Re: Looks like Nokia really started to change :)
 

For an idea of how serious they are you should have been keeping track of the MeeGo developer mailing list or the huge recruitment drive they've had for Qt developers via Linkedin since the start of the year. It's actually been increasing over the last months. Just look at the recent hiring of Skillman as an example. It shows they are not playing around.

Re: Looks like Nokia really started to change :)
 

honestly if nokia now pulled out of meego, I think they would be regarded as a joke.

Re: Looks like Nokia really started to change :)
 

I don't think Nokia would be that stupid.....

...actually, you never know.

Nokia cannot afford to screw-up Meego - there just isn't enough margin-of-error for them to make any mistakes.

Nokia need to start "hyping" Meego and generate enough buzz to get Developers interested.

Nokia need to think long-term with Meego its now the only chance they have left of competing in the smartphone sector.

They funny thing is they developed maemo to the point of stability and then decided to go with something new. This was a big mistake and now there is an enormous amount of pressure for them to produce something and do it fast.

Nokia need to understand that their Symbian products are not the answer to thier long-term growth. People are now expecting much more from their mobile phones.

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Conclusion: Don't look for the future, buy our new Symbian Devices, NOW!

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This strategy is working well... thanks to the N900. The N900 being so powerful and easily overclockable makes the wait for the N9 a lot less painful. Compare this to the transition from the n810 which was released with a 3 year old hardware to the N900. I am really happy that no Meego device was announced and even more satisfied with my N900 as it helps me to use it more extensively.