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Re: Angry Birds and Nokia’s Perception Problem

Speaking of Angry Birds... why is there no mention of in-game purchases via Ovi for Maemo but it's there for Symbian^3?

Proof...

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For Nokia Symbian^3:

We have announced comprehensive support for all the symbian^3 devices announced at Nokia world; C6, C7, N8 and the E7. Angry Birds will also be the first game to support in app purchasing in the Ovi Store through Mighty Eagle functionality.

For Palm:

Angry Birds for Pixi and Angry Birds Lite for Pre and Pixi have been released and we will be releasing the Pig Fat Level Update for all Palm devices in the not to distant future.

For Android:

We have updated Angry Birds Lite Beta to support even more Android devices and we would love to hear your feedback via email contact@rovio.com and twitter at http://twitter.angrybirds.com

But to be fair, no mention of Apple's iOS either.

Re: Angry Birds and Nokia’s Perception Problem

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Originally Posted by danramos (Post 818243)

That's just the very thing about the article--whether you agree or not, the main point is still that Nokia has a perception problem. I've never used Symbian, myself, but the impression I get from various exposure to people who have is a generally negative one that makes it sound/feel retro and outdated. I can't say that I think that--it's just the impression I'm getting from the general consensus, right or wrong. Nokia would do well to fix that perception.

Symbian doesn't have bling-bling, and is a capability-based OS with microkernel (which neither Android, iOS, or Maemo are). Imagine the complexity of such OS, and it does mean impact on resources (ie. microkernel generally 10% performance). It wasn't made with multimedia or touchscreen in mind, and it doesn't follow some new UI paradigms. It is actually well made for enterprise: sober, and build with security in mind.

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Originally Posted by imperiallight (Post 818355)

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Anything that is based on Symbian can only be evolutionary not revolutionary so it will always be behind.

:D hahaha. Did you know MeeGo will probably have some form of capability-based security? Did you know Symbian is the only mobile OS sporting a microkernel? Did you know some OSes are moving away from a monolithic kernel design? And adopting capability-based security? And more general: Symbian was market leader and way ahead of anything for a long, long time, and has inspired many of the current mobile OSes. It also still has a strong market.

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Originally Posted by quipper8 (Post 818288)

I don't really get the symbian bashing either

OK, symbian1 did have a bad touch interface and somewhat dated graphics, but it looks like that will be better with the new symbian3 UI + capacitive touch amoled screens. Sure, Symbian is not really gonna satisfy your bling lust, but it is a workhorse. I am happier for it to be around than for it to die.

here are some things I like about symbian(as supplied by nokia at least) that you don't really get with the other OSs on market:

deeply integrated voip stack included for free, even with g729 codec
included office viewing and editing
included webdav client
included caldav(symbian3)
included pdf viewer
included voice nav
battery sipping
browser has flash(yes, it is lite, but it works most places where you would need it)
lower cpu/mem necessary(don't we celebrate that in the linux world?)
included syncml for not just pim, but also other stuff
very good addressbook, especially being able to having the note attached to a contact appear when they call.

Yep, I'm certainly looking forward to the new Nokia E7. Would love to try it out.

I'd recommend Dan to try out a Nokia E72 some time. Try to get to use a demo model or something. It will give you a rough impression about Symbian. The Nokia E72 is the current E-Series flagship, successor ofthe very popular Nokia E71 (in my case, my Nokia N900 predecessor).

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Originally Posted by Russianhaxor (Post 819179)

If you guys are interested, here's my current opinion of Nokia's state of affairs.

http://www.brightsideofnews.com/news...ive-house.aspx

Outstanding article.

Re: Angry Birds and Nokia’s Perception Problem

It's not just Bloggers that don't understand Nokia or where its coming from.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/BUSINESS/09/...ack/index.html

I see most of this as lazy journalism with a lack of research in the subject, which appears to be rife, I guess at least a blogger piece is clearly an opinion piece.

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Originally Posted by siperkin (Post 819944)

What exactly is the problem with that article?

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Originally Posted by etuoyo (Post 819545)

Outstanding article.

Glad you liked it. :)

I really want Nokia to succeed but they've gotta get it right from the top down. That involves appealing to the American and Western European Markets again. :D

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Originally Posted by ysss (Post 819951)

What exactly is the problem with that article?

C'mon, man! The caption for picture 8 claims that the 5800, released in 2008, was Nokia's first touchscreen phone. The 7710 was a touchscreen phone and was released in what, 2005?

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Originally Posted by sjgadsby (Post 820283)

C'mon, man! The caption for picture 8 claims that the 5800, released in 2008, was Nokia's first touchscreen phone. The 7710 was a touchscreen phone and was released in what, 2005?

OMG that ruined CNN for me.

I shall rank them just below Fox News and right above Glenn Beck for this offense.

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Originally Posted by ysss (Post 820296)

OMG that ruined CNN for me.

I shall rank them just below Fox News and right above Glenn Beck for this offense.

Since when has any network been spot on with their technology coverage? never. That's why sites like engadget and gizmodo are so successful, they effectively fill the technology gap left by traditional media.