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-   -   WE WON!!!!. Fone Arena Smartphone Championship - N900 FTW! (https://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=62644)

PMaff 2010-10-02 13:07
Re: GRAND FINAL!!!! VOTE NOW!!. Fone Arena Smartphone Championship - N900 FTW!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Creamy Goodness (Post 828129)
Don't tell them about our busted usb ports, erratic push email, monthly reformats, and hourly recharging.
USB ports: I heard of that one. Did not happen to me up to now
(knock on my head).
monthly reformats:? Do you use extra duper development applications? :D
hourly recharging:? My N900 lasts 2-3 days depending on usage

What about the announcement on
http://www.fonearena.com/blog/23538/...-galaxy-s.html
?

maxximuscool 2010-10-02 13:22
Re: GRAND FINAL!!!! VOTE NOW!!. Fone Arena Smartphone Championship - N900 FTW!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by PMaff (Post 831572)
USB ports: I heard of that one. Did not happen to me up to now
(knock on my head).
monthly reformats:? Do you use extra duper development applications? :D
hourly recharging:? My N900 lasts 2-3 days depending on usage

What about the announcement on
http://www.fonearena.com/blog/23538/...-galaxy-s.html
?
My USB port still rock solid like 11months ago.

atilla 2010-10-02 15:30
Re: GRAND FINAL!!!! VOTE NOW!!. Fone Arena Smartphone Championship - N900 FTW!
 
bump bump bump bump

gryedouge 2010-10-02 16:21
Re: GRAND FINAL!!!! VOTE NOW!!. Fone Arena Smartphone Championship - N900 FTW!
 
Reading this epic battle between the N900 and the Pre, from both forums was immensely entertaining!

But, i think that this post

http://forums.precentral.net/palm-pr...ml#post2674180

made my day...

Ykho 2010-10-02 16:29
Re: GRAND FINAL!!!! VOTE NOW!!. Fone Arena Smartphone Championship - N900 FTW!
 
In all honesty I never knew that the pre had such a large community

ysss 2010-10-02 16:31
Re: GRAND FINAL!!!! VOTE NOW!!. Fone Arena Smartphone Championship - N900 FTW!
 
What if you're the admin of Fone Arena?

You know it's completely rigged and the result is way off what was originally intended. Will you still bestow the (unrightful?) winner and publish the news as is, without any disclaimer?

plaban 2010-10-02 16:31
Re: GRAND FINAL!!!! VOTE NOW!!. Fone Arena Smartphone Championship - N900 FTW!
 
The battle between Pre and N900 was more entertaining.

rickysio 2010-10-02 16:42
Re: GRAND FINAL!!!! VOTE NOW!!. Fone Arena Smartphone Championship - N900 FTW!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ysss (Post 831694)
What if you're the admin of Fone Arena?

You know it's completely rigged and the result is way off what was originally intended. Will you still bestow the (unrightful?) winner and publish the news as is, without any disclaimer?
If they have had an originally intended result, they're doing it wrong.

mece 2010-10-02 16:43
Re: GRAND FINAL!!!! VOTE NOW!!. Fone Arena Smartphone Championship - N900 FTW!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ysss (Post 831694)
What if you're the admin of Fone Arena?

You know it's completely rigged and the result is way off what was originally intended. Will you still bestow the (unrightful?) winner and publish the news as is, without any disclaimer?
Was it rigged? You mean people who voted for the N900 had some sort of unfair advantage that was not possible if you voted for another phone? If they rigged it like that then I suppose the outcome was as expected. Or did you mean that they rigged it so that the SGS was going to win, and somehow failed?

Edit: My understanding of the word rigging might have been a little off. I was thinking of boxing.

ysss 2010-10-02 16:50
Re: GRAND FINAL!!!! VOTE NOW!!. Fone Arena Smartphone Championship - N900 FTW!
 
They probably think that camp with the most supporters will win (not only the actual owners, but also the owners of the 'fallen' camps). Not the one whom can cast the most duplicate votes...

mece 2010-10-02 17:04
Re: GRAND FINAL!!!! VOTE NOW!!. Fone Arena Smartphone Championship - N900 FTW!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ysss (Post 831707)
They probably think that camp with the most supporters will win (not only the actual owners, but also the owners of the 'fallen' camps). Not the one whom can cast the most duplicate votes...
So what you meant was that SGS owners are an honest bunch while N900 owners are corrupted cheaters.

ysss 2010-10-02 17:09
Re: GRAND FINAL!!!! VOTE NOW!!. Fone Arena Smartphone Championship - N900 FTW!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mece (Post 831711)
So what you meant was that SGS owners are an honest bunch while N900 owners are corrupted cheaters.
Hmmm that's an interesting point. I thought we were just plain cheaters :D

Mentalist Traceur 2010-10-02 17:11
Re: GRAND FINAL!!!! VOTE NOW!!. Fone Arena Smartphone Championship - N900 FTW!
 
The problem is that most users should be more than capable of casting multiple votes. (Though given the average iPhone user - I emphasize average; I know there's plenty who aren't brainless sheep - that puts iPhones at a disadvantage.)

Of course, personally, I was definitely not a supporter of the multiple voting. It's sad. We could have won anyway, I think (going into this, I decided that I would only feel the N900 won if it had more than twice the votes of the Galaxy S, simply because I figured there was a good portion of the demographic who'd vote 2-3 times). I myself was tempted to leave my one vote for the N900, then flood the Galaxy S with however many votes I could generate with the help of proxies from my N900 and laptop. I decided against it because ultimately screwing the the results by others doesn't justify me screwing with results even more, especially when there's probably rabid fans of the Galaxy S doing the same on the other end.

mece 2010-10-02 17:25
Re: GRAND FINAL!!!! VOTE NOW!!. Fone Arena Smartphone Championship - N900 FTW!
 
This is how I see it:
Everyone tried to cheat, but the N900 owners (and a few palm pre owners) were the only ones clever enough to do it right. Thankfully ysss's botnet evened out the votes just a tiny bit so the results didn't look completely ridiculous. Regardless, the N900 is the rightful winner because more intelligent cheaters own it.

yorg 2010-10-02 17:37
Re: GRAND FINAL!!!! VOTE NOW!!. Fone Arena Smartphone Championship - N900 FTW!
 
you can only cast 1 vote from 1 ip

so I am not sure how people make it seem that cheating is so easy and only available to ν900 supporters

9000 2010-10-02 17:49
Re: GRAND FINAL!!!! VOTE NOW!!. Fone Arena Smartphone Championship - N900 FTW!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mece (Post 831723)
This is how I see it:
Everyone tried to cheat, but the N900 owners (and a few palm pre owners) were the only ones clever enough to do it right. Thankfully ysss's botnet evened out the votes just a tiny bit so the results didn't look completely ridiculous. Regardless, the N900 is the rightful winner because more intelligent cheaters own it.
mece don't mind what he said. He's actually insulting the intelligence of most SGS's users who don't know how to cast multiple votes. You know, normal people would not claim the victory by insulting their opponents, but some people would just love to do that. :D

9000 2010-10-02 17:54
Re: GRAND FINAL!!!! VOTE NOW!!. Fone Arena Smartphone Championship - N900 FTW!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by gryedouge (Post 831683)
Reading this epic battle between the N900 and the Pre, from both forums was immensely entertaining!

But, i think that this post

http://forums.precentral.net/palm-pr...ml#post2674180

made my day...
Thanks for the link. That was funny.

Especially when I found this post: http://forums.precentral.net/palm-pr...ml#post2673205

Quote:
Just checked the stats:

Palm Pre 55.2% (2,240 votes)
Nokia N900 44.8% (1,818 votes)
Total Votes: 4,058

Way to go WebOS faithful!! Let's keep it going...I've managed separate votes from my work PC, PS3, Pre and my laptop...look around you..bet there's more than one thing that has a browser on it lying around ;-)

Some may call this cheating...but I call it sticking it to Nokia and representing WebOS lol :-)
mr_bridger (the OP) started this thread at that time thus reversed the result. Had we not acknowledged of the ballot N900 would have lost in semi-final.

All hail to mr_bridger :D

mece 2010-10-02 18:00
Re: GRAND FINAL!!!! VOTE NOW!!. Fone Arena Smartphone Championship - N900 FTW!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 9000 (Post 831741)
mece don't mind what he said. He's actually insulting the intelligence of most SGS's users who don't know how to cast multiple votes. You know, normal people would not claim the victory by insulting their opponents, but some people would just love to do that. :D
Hehe thanks for the concern. Not to worry though, I, and I assume ysss too, enjoy this sort of banter. Why else would we do it?

C.Whiteham 2010-10-02 18:51
Re: GRAND FINAL!!!! VOTE NOW!!. Fone Arena Smartphone Championship - N900 FTW!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 9000 (Post 831741)
mece don't mind what he said. He's actually insulting the intelligence of most SGS's users who don't know how to cast multiple votes. You know, normal people would not claim the victory by insulting their opponents, but some people would just love to do that. :D
You know, I had this really snarky post composed for the FoneArena championship forum parodying what one SGS ("Supporter of Galaxy S") said, that would accuse the N900 fans of voting multiple times, and then asking for help cheating the same way with one of those 2-line scripts because they didn't know how to do multiple voting on Android.

I think you guys would have enjoyed it, but the contest ended before I could post it. Oh, well, save the rhetoric for next time the N900 goes against some smartphone, I guess.

Gryedouge is right in that the battle against the Palm Pre would have been much more interesting, with much more knowledgeable discussion. At least it wouldn't have been so easy to walk all over the SGS (I mean, I just googled "Galaxy S criticism" plus there's an entire heading about SGS problems in the Wikipedia article). Too bad I came late to the battle when the N900 had gone up against the Pre.

gryedouge 2010-10-02 19:10
Re: GRAND FINAL!!!! VOTE NOW!!. Fone Arena Smartphone Championship - N900 FTW!
 
Well...you can still post your rhetoric for our dissection and learned analysis :D

There is nothing better than an after victory lap, followed by a song and dance.

ysss 2010-10-02 20:46
Re: GRAND FINAL!!!! VOTE NOW!!. Fone Arena Smartphone Championship - N900 FTW!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mece (Post 831749)
Hehe thanks for the concern. Not to worry though, I, and I assume ysss too, enjoy this sort of banter. Why else would we do it?
:D

You got me.

Here's my scale of response to the different levels of cheating I've read here:

1. multiple votes via botnet = "g***** f****** cheaters!"
2. multiple votes via juggling many proxies = "pathetic! you got enough time for that??"
3. multiple votes via multiple devices & connections = "show off!"
4. multiple votes via 1 browser on 1 ip = "it doesn't work, Ossi."

So, I've lowered my assessment to threat level 3 and it's all good :D

ONWARD! TO 52 MILLION!!

gryedouge 2010-10-02 20:51
Re: GRAND FINAL!!!! VOTE NOW!!. Fone Arena Smartphone Championship - N900 FTW!
 
the sublime ysss!!

mikec 2010-10-03 07:06
Re: GRAND FINAL!!!! VOTE NOW!!. Fone Arena Smartphone Championship - N900 FTW!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ysss (Post 831839)
:D

You got me.

Here's my scale of response to the different levels of cheating I've read here:

1. multiple votes via botnet = "g***** f****** cheaters!"
2. multiple votes via juggling many proxies = "pathetic! you got enough time for that??"
3. multiple votes via multiple devices & connections = "show off!"
4. multiple votes via 1 browser on 1 ip = "it doesn't work, Ossi."

So, I've lowered my assessment to threat level 3 and it's all good :D

ONWARD! TO 52 MILLION!!

Nice Assessment, but you forgot one

6. Cheaters masquarading as cheaters on rival forums to discredit honest voting :- way too deep.

This was never ever more than a game. And as a game with equal rules on all sides, the victory stands IMHO.

maxximuscool 2010-10-03 07:58
Re: GRAND FINAL!!!! VOTE NOW!!. Fone Arena Smartphone Championship - N900 FTW!
 
Hahah I vote from different devices and connections :P
Because I can!
I worked in a computer Department. So all the gears came with 3G sticks, laboratories, Office, borrowed colleagues iPhone4, home Ip and my own N900. lol total of 7votes easily.

plaban 2010-10-03 09:38
Re: GRAND FINAL!!!! VOTE NOW!!. Fone Arena Smartphone Championship - N900 FTW!
 
Finally WINNER is announced
http://www.fonearena.com/blog/24094/...okia-n900.html


Cheers!!!!

PMaff 2010-10-03 10:26
Re: GRAND FINAL!!!! VOTE NOW!!. Fone Arena Smartphone Championship - N900 FTW!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 9000 (Post 831745)
Thanks for the link. That was funny.

Especially when I found this post: http://forums.precentral.net/palm-pr...ml#post2673205



mr_bridger (the OP) started this thread at that time thus reversed the result. Had we not acknowledged of the ballot N900 would have lost in semi-final.

All hail to mr_bridger :D
From the above links:
"Update: It's a tie... I can't watch this!

Update 2: I watched... THE PAIN! we're losing!"

We are fast!

Thanks again mr_bridger.

PMaff 2010-10-03 10:40
Re: GRAND FINAL!!!! VOTE NOW!!. Fone Arena Smartphone Championship - N900 FTW!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by maxximuscool (Post 832044)
Hahah I vote from different devices and connections :P
Because I can!
I worked in a computer Department. So all the gears came with 3G sticks, laboratories, Office, borrowed colleagues iPhone4, home Ip and my own N900. lol total of 7votes easily.
And what did your colleagues say about using a defeated iPhone
for multiple voting?
:D

Btw tor ( http://www.torproject.org/index.html.en )
is quite fun for multiple voting/changing the IP.

MINKIN2 2010-10-03 10:40
Re: GRAND FINAL!!!! VOTE NOW!!. Fone Arena Smartphone Championship - N900 FTW!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by plaban (Post 832079)
Finally WINNER is announced
http://www.fonearena.com/blog/24094/...okia-n900.html


Cheers!!!!

About time :)

maxximuscool 2010-10-03 11:01
Re: GRAND FINAL!!!! VOTE NOW!!. Fone Arena Smartphone Championship - N900 FTW!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by PMaff (Post 832119)
And what did your colleagues say about using a defeated iPhone
for multiple voting?
:D

Btw tor ( http://www.torproject.org/index.html.en )
is quite fun for multiple voting/changing the IP.
Well, I just don't tell them lol. Use it then clean the caches and browser history :D wiped everything including their existing histories. :D

Worth the risk though lol.

rickysio 2010-10-03 11:39
Re: GRAND FINAL!!!! VOTE NOW!!. Fone Arena Smartphone Championship - N900 FTW!
 
I think one of the editors is a Pre user? :rolleyes:

Quote:
all the credit goes to the readers who voted and supported their favorite phones like a true fanboys.
Nah, just joking.

9000 2010-10-04 04:21
Re: GRAND FINAL!!!! VOTE NOW!!. Fone Arena Smartphone Championship - N900 FTW!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by plaban (Post 832079)
Finally WINNER is announced
http://www.fonearena.com/blog/24094/...okia-n900.html


Cheers!!!!
Thanks for the link. However, I don't like the way it presents the championship. It fails to give readers a big picture of what N900 is winning.

I made my own announcement poster. Hope you like it and comment is welcome. ^^

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4090/...2b9bf588_b.jpg

Edit: Thanks ysss, edited.

ysss 2010-10-04 04:31
Re: GRAND FINAL!!!! VOTE NOW!!. Fone Arena Smartphone Championship - N900 FTW!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 9000 (Post 832721)
Thanks for the link. However, I don't like the way it presents the championship. It fails to give readers a big picture of what N900 is winning.

I made my own announcement poster. Hope you like it and comment is welcome. ^^

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_8Eyzz7CII9A/TK...hip%20N900.jpg
The big red 'DEFEATED' sign just below N900's picture... may give the wrong idea.

ossipena 2010-10-04 04:32
Re: GRAND FINAL!!!! VOTE NOW!!. Fone Arena Smartphone Championship - N900 FTW!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ysss (Post 831839)
4. multiple votes via 1 browser on 1 ip = "it doesn't work, Ossi."
you missed by miles. sorry. There went another vote to N900 when I tested it with my work computer....

gerbick 2010-10-04 05:03
Re: GRAND FINAL!!!! VOTE NOW!!. Fone Arena Smartphone Championship - N900 FTW!
 
I'm curious about one thing... how do you all feel about this win. Pretty damn somber so far.

I expected turned over cars, near riots... you know, stuff that would be cool to see and witness. Hell, perhaps a bit o' looting.

ossipena 2010-10-04 05:22
Re: GRAND FINAL!!!! VOTE NOW!!. Fone Arena Smartphone Championship - N900 FTW!
 
it is the power of voulenteering as Vanjoki described it. maemo community can be proud of its archievement.

besides talking about cheating with online polls.... ask for example from the author of this page: http://lapsiporno.info/ (childporn.info, criticism for finnish child porn filter that is totally fckd up, delayed, filtering possible political content etc...)
how reliable online polls really are...

ejasmudar 2010-10-04 05:41
Re: GRAND FINAL!!!! VOTE NOW!!. Fone Arena Smartphone Championship - N900 FTW!
 
Yes it is true, the win did not go the way i expected. Where are the gushing twitterati? Where is the Google doodle announcing the new king? Where is the wikipedia page detailing the epic battle?
It's those damn illuminati, putting the N900 down!

Who controls the British crown?
Who keeps the metric system down?
We do! We do!

Who leaves Atlantis off the maps?
Who keeps the Martians under wraps?
We do! We do!

Who holds back the electric car?
Who makes Steve Gutenberg a star?
All:We do! We do!

Who robs cavefish of their sight?
Who rigs every Oscar night?
All: We do! We do!

Who keeps the N900 down?
Who designs the iphone4?
All: We do! We do!

strange1712 2010-10-04 05:50
Re: GRAND FINAL!!!! VOTE NOW!!. Fone Arena Smartphone Championship - N900 FTW!
 
Great!
One step more in the way to domain the world!
(Or at least Internet Polls...)
Anyway, very well done, we have been seen by at least a couple thousands, that just can be good...
Got my desired pic, thanks 9000!

9000 2010-10-04 05:51
Re: GRAND FINAL!!!! VOTE NOW!!. Fone Arena Smartphone Championship - N900 FTW!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 832737)
I'm curious about one thing... how do you all feel about this win. Pretty damn somber so far.

I expected turned over cars, near riots... you know, stuff that would be cool to see and witness. Hell, perhaps a bit o' looting.
Pretty much what I suspected at the very beginning, that Fone Arena didn't really expect N900 to win. If you look at the original rundown jpg, it's named: android_cup_bracket15a_thumb5.jpg

Android Cup. :lol

maxximuscool 2010-10-04 06:19
Re: GRAND FINAL!!!! VOTE NOW!!. Fone Arena Smartphone Championship - N900 FTW!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 9000 (Post 832747)
Pretty much what I suspected at the very beginning, that Fone Arena didn't really expect N900 to win. If you look at the original rundown jpg, it's named: android_cup_bracket15a_thumb5.jpg

Android Cup. :lol
ahhaha Good spot bud.
http://www.fonearena.com/blog/22675/...-galaxy-s.html

Save the picture and Voila Android Cup lol.

ysss 2010-10-04 06:46
Re: GRAND FINAL!!!! VOTE NOW!!. Fone Arena Smartphone Championship - N900 FTW!
 
They can also be alluding to the fact that half (8 out of 16) of the contestants are Android based.

Quit annoying yourselves by assuming the worst from people.


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