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Well, in my case, I've had two 770's (I wore out the screen on the first one) and I just upgraded to an 800. No major complaints, all things considered.

Re: poor quality Nokia hardware again?
 

Bingo. Same here.

I have zero problems, personally or otherwise, with people expressing frustration over a bad experience. That is well within everyone's rights (I won't get into the deeper issue of free speech in private fora... lol).

The problems occur when posters are antagonistic, ill-tempered, hyperbolic or willfully vague. I don't understand what they hope to accomplish with such ranting. Surely not a solution! If it's just venting, fine- spew and move on. But don't defend such an absurd approach further! Cripes, that's disingenuous beyond belief.

Rank complainers could learn from EwanG's example. He expressed righteous anger and disappointment, but he also stuck to facts and methodically described his experiences for everyone here. He NEVER succumbed to the juvenile baiting that's been going on lately. Nokia may have lost him as a customer, but the company had every opportunity to do right by him based on his diligence so he is well within his rights.

Now, back to the useless "contributions" of the trolls. ;)

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Guess what Texrat... everytime you start bashing the newbie and fueling the fire on here while pretending to be a mature and intelligent man... I am going to point out what you are really doing. I get a kick out of your long winded TOTAL DENIAL posts anyhow. It's as simple as that. You want to bash new people then I will be right behind you... lay off the newbies and I will mind my own business and quietly suffer reading your posts with the smilies at the end.

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I can understand the guys frustration who started this post... and I can understand everything you said here... you might even be correct on the final statement... perhaps it is just a guy messing with everyone... but maybe not... I don't know for sure... but I do know you didn't use 1 putdown word in your answers... Texrat would have used 5-6 putdown words in a post this large... the man is clearly an educated guy but emotinally unstable and really really annoying when he tries to stir the pot on here by attacking the single newbie knowing everyone is gonna go on his side. Texrat = Newbie Bully and has nothing intelligent to add to these type of conversations althought he pretends like he does and in his own mind he actually believes he does.

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TEXRATS JUST SENT ME A PRIVATE MESSAGE BELOW... ENOUGH SAID...


I'm ignoring you publicly because you have nothing worth reading, but I will tell you this: if you persist in stalking my posts, I will take action. Rest assured if it comes down to you or me, it will be your account banned.

So make your choice right now: grow up and act responsibly, or soon find yourself gone. I don't pretend to speak for Reggie, but if you want to test my assumption, be my guest.

I don't expect you to grasp the difference between what I post (or my motives) and what you mistakenly perceive. Your inability is obvious by now. That being the case, you'd be best off avoiding further embarassment and banning by just avoiding my posts. Put me on ignore, as I have you, and maybe you'll be a little happier... unless you truly are the sociopath you present yourself to be.

Think about it. Try.

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Now i am replying to Texrats abusive private message... LLOLLOLOLOLOLOL... like i said if u attack the newbies expect to be exposed by me what you are truely doing... if you stop it then u r safe. Enough Said.

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I think maybe Nokia should not refer to this website AT ALL in their literature or website in order to avoid complaints. This is not a COMPLAINT website...please call Nokia and complain/whine to them. If you have a technical questions, post the question...you don't even have to be nice, just don't be an *** and you may or not get the answer that suits you. This is a RESOURCE base, not a complaint forum. Maybe too difficult of a concept for some to handle....but it's sometimes entertaining enough... although by the end of reading this crap I feel like I'm back in 3rd grade (which is fun too). Flame on.

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As the N800 trickles into the mass market this forum, previously a peaceful place where one could seek advice on how to fix problems etc, is going to become like the rest of the internet forums filled with trash and spam and which I (mostly) try to ignore. I think that the mod needs to start policing users little heavier in order to keep these flamers out and the quality high. At the very least create a "Complaints and Rants" subforum to stick all this stuff into.

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Look at it this way: out of almost 7000 members, so far there are a mere handful of troublemakers. That's really not so bad. ;)

EDIT: there are official channels for providing feedback to Nokia. Here's one--

http://discussions.europe.nokia.com/discussions/

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Give it a rest dude, you're just embarrassing yourself.

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I'll ask you again in case you didn't see it the first time. What was your original purpose for posting in this thread?

If it was just to bait another member over something unrelated you certainly are taking the fun out of my participation in this forum.

I apologize to all for taking this off topic but I am at a loss in determining what value posts like that (or even this one) have in any thread.

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To the original poster: I hope you can get your money back because the N800 sounds like it wasn't what you expected.
BTW, you never really made clear what you expected and why though.

As for the time sync; Nokia obviously wants to keep track of who downloads their proprietary code. They ask for the mac addy don't they? A time check sum may be boiler plate security that they use for all their firmware installers.

Most OEM's frown on "rolling back" to previous versions that may contain "holes" that they have closed in subsequent versions.

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And having fun just like you did with SAP. The guy is cracking and I think it's funny... he deserves it though cuz he likes to mix it up but when someone bigger comes to play he runs like a coward. Why was it ok for you to enjoy your torture of SAP and I can't enjoy a Texrat meltdown?

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Or it may be that the Nokia software accesses a secure server, and to avoid expired (or not yet valid) certificate issues the software probably attempts to ensure the local time is reasonably up to date. I personally see nothing wrong in this and I'm at a loss as to why having an accuate time on the users PC is a problem, or even a big deal. Or have I missed something? I don't recall the Nokia updater hasseling me to sync time on my install of XP - but then it was already up to date...

The fact that a patch is needed on Windows to fix DST and that this requires - shock horror - a legally licenced version of Windows before it will install is not Nokias problem. For all we know, the time sync issue could be a requirement of the .net framework whenever it establishes a secure connection and it recognises the local time is way out of whack. Whatever the reason for the time sync issue, the fact the OP is unable to install a patch from Microsoft is *not* Nokias problem - the OP should blame the correct guily party and blame Microsoft (or himself, for not having a licenced copy of Windows...)



It's disappointing to see how this thread has turned out, but not really surprising. If the OP had been a little more constructive in his complaints the reception would have been more sympathetic, but to come on this forum and blame Nokia and the device for all his problems is hardly the wisest thing to do particularly when the blame for some of those problems almost certainly lie elsewhere.

Everyone on this forum wants to help other IT users resolve their issues, but if users just come here to whine rather than address the issues then they should expect a less than polite reception.

What a beating. :(

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Nobody "tortured" Sapporobaby, and you're not torturing Texrat. You're beginning to post in the same style and thus appear much like Sapporobaby however, which is quite depressing for us all.

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OMG Milhouse who whines more than you when it comes to the way Nokia operates... I wouldn;t know where to begin... I use windows for 20 years... i reformat my hard drive minimum 2 times per year for 20 years = 40 times... it used to take 2 hours to reformat and insall all the stuff... now it's like 16 hours... you have 1 automatic reboot and you on on here posting about it and threatening Nokia that your money will go elsewhere next time if this doesn't get corrected. Most of the time your posts are a good read though I give you that BUT U DO WHINE QUITE A BIT!

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Texrat and U tortured SAP. If you deny this then you are in the same denial as he is. you knew he was BSing and instead of letting it go you hammered him into submission... just like i am doing to Texrat. But if Texrat stops being a newbie basher I will not bother him... he never stops once he gets on these types of threads and neither did u on SAP.

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I think you have me confused with someone else!

What are you blathering on about? (As if I cared...)

EDIT: Adding quote for context - can't keep up with all these replies... :)

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I only asked Sap one question - the fact he went off the deep end wasn't my problem, and I didn't push him nor did I goad his reaction. I merely asked him a straight question which only required a straight answer. No "LOOOOOLLLL" bullsh1t, no name calling, no derogatory references - just a straight question. I didn't "hammer him into submission", and I very much doubt you'll have much success with Texrat.

Really, this sort of discussion is not worthy of this forum. If you want to take your internet thug attitude out on someone, please do it elsewhere.

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Well... you sent me a private email laughing about SAP having a meltdown. You forgot that? These are facts man... just cuz I did "LLOLOLOLOL" publically after getting a meltdown email from Texrat doesn't give u the right to give me the "mature speech" now Milhouse... not after we exchanged 5 emails each with u telling me how u did a google search on SAP and found out his real name and how funny it all was to you... now you are speaking in Texrat mentality. You & Texrat bullied him off this board no question about it AND YOU LOVED IT... fine I too am the same like you. We are practically brothers man and don;t you think otherwise.

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Textra posts towards me have 5-6 name calling insults each... don;t tell me you are going to defend yourself with his mentality. Tell texrat to stop jumping on the bandwagon to insult the frustrated newbies and I willnever say another word about it.

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Given what was written, I have no issues of remorse - it's not my responsibility what grown adults write in public forums and I merely laughed at a lame attempt to use a multi-handle to post another rant. Anything I wrote to you in a private message is hardly evidence of me publicly goading Sap, now is it?

As for what you wrote about formatting a hard disk - you totally lost me there.

This is so seriously going OT...

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Forget it man you can't compete with me. I use facts and you pretend you weren;t publically embarrassing SAP and LOVING IT... when he tried to sell his Nokia N800 you were still gloating over the beating u did give him PUBLICALLY! Guess what though... u r weak to me for denying this stuff and running away from these facts.

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It's pity that another thread needs to be locked again.

Just to remind everyone, please remain on topic. Personal attacks are against the site's policies. Please don't force me to start banning members and IPs.

Thanks for understanding.