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hjon71 2007-05-13 22:21

What's the diff.
 
:confused: Whats the difference between the installed media player, Mplayer, canola?
If someone could just explain how they each work and how 1 might be better I would appreciate it. Also, do any allow the creation of pllaylists?

Karel Jansens 2007-05-14 11:40

Re: What's the diff.
 
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Originally Posted by hjon71 (Post 48344)
:confused: Whats the difference between the installed media player, Mplayer, canola?
If someone could just explain how they each work and how 1 might be better I would appreciate it. Also, do any allow the creation of pllaylists?

The installed media player is just that: the installed media player. It plays several audio and video formats, but not a very extensive list.

Canola is a front-end to that player, providing a (much!) better user interface, but nothing on internal playback improvement.

Mplayer is community-developed, has its own sets of codecs and generally has nothing to do with the installed media player. Which shows, as it plays a helluvah lot more video formats, and plays them better than the installed media player.

For playlists I cannot help you.

helmutk 2007-05-14 15:20

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I actually use all three apps. There are some files I have that will not play on Mplayer but will play on the installed Media Player, and visa versa.

Rider 2007-05-14 15:59

Re: What's the diff.
 
i didn't like Canola. The configuration by web interface is clumsy and the app itself looks and feels like a toy.

Now I keep only mplayer and the original media player. Media player is not bad - if it works. Unfortunately many radio streams cannot be played with the media player.

Karel Jansens 2007-05-14 16:59

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Originally Posted by helmutk (Post 48415)
I actually use all three apps. There are some files I have that will not play on Mplayer but will play on the installed Media Player, and visa versa.

Are you talking about audio files, because I have yet to encounter a video file that will play on the Media Player and not on Mplayer.

The opposite situation is, alas, far too common.

helmutk 2007-05-15 18:44

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Originally Posted by Karel Jansens (Post 48430)
Are you talking about audio files, because I have yet to encounter a video file that will play on the Media Player and not on Mplayer.

The opposite situation is, alas, far too common.

Hi Karel; it's a video file. It is an MP4 video file encoded with AAC Audio. It plays on the internal Media Player fine but the video and audio stutters when trying to play it in Mplayer. I have a few video files in the same format that act the same way. I posted in the "Apps" forum and one of the developers, Serge I think, said AAC audio is not really supported in video files in Mplayer.

Karel Jansens 2007-05-15 19:02

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Originally Posted by helmutk (Post 48596)
Hi Karel; it's a video file. It is an MP4 video file encoded with AAC Audio. It plays on the internal Media Player fine but the video and audio stutters when trying to play it in Mplayer. I have a few video files in the same format that act the same way. I posted in the "Apps" forum and one of the developers, Serge I think, said AAC audio is not really supported in video files in Mplayer.

Oh, AAC. Yeah, that one's a real *****. Those won't play on my Archos either, probably why I don't have any of them; I'm an all-MP3 geezer.

OK, you win. Have a virtual beer. :D

helmutk 2007-05-15 19:33

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Yeah, the videos settings are what my conversion program defaulted to for MPEG-4 conversions. Now I convert all my video with MP3 audio for the MPEG4 video files. I too only use MP3 for all my audio files.
I was deciding between the n800 and the Archos 704 WiFi. I decided to go with the n800 because it sounded like it handled the Internet better than the Archos, was a lot cheaper, and I have a Creative Zen W 60GB PMP player already. Now I hear Archos is going to release a new series soon that is better Internet compatible. Sounds like lots of MID called devices are coming soon. Wonder what the Nokia n900 will be like? :D

Karel Jansens 2007-05-15 21:43

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Originally Posted by helmutk (Post 48612)
Yeah, the videos settings are what my conversion program defaulted to for MPEG-4 conversions. Now I convert all my video with MP3 audio for the MPEG4 video files. I too only use MP3 for all my audio files.
I was deciding between the n800 and the Archos 704 WiFi. I decided to go with the n800 because it sounded like it handled the Internet better than the Archos, was a lot cheaper, and I have a Creative Zen W 60GB PMP player already. Now I hear Archos is going to release a new series soon that is better Internet compatible. Sounds like lots of MID called devices are coming soon. Wonder what the Nokia n900 will be like? :D

My Archos is ancient: it's a PMA430, the one with the full Linux PDA on board. It's WiFi is crap, though.

I'm waiting for 32GB compact flash cards to become available (and priced slightly below the GNP of Bulgaria!), so that I can swap its hard drive for a CF card.

Karel Jansens 2007-05-15 21:49

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I just wrote b-i-t-c-h fourty times. Why do we have to have this silly puritain censorship on the forum? It's **********-i-n-g annoying, demeaning as h-e-l-l and f-o-r-n-i-c-k-a-t-i-n-g-l-y useless to boot.

Windowsrookie 2007-05-16 03:33

Re: What's the diff.
 
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Originally Posted by Karel Jansens (Post 48626)
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I just wrote b-i-t-c-h fourty times. Why do we have to have this silly puritain censorship on the forum? It's **********-i-n-g annoying, demeaning as h-e-l-l and f-o-r-n-i-c-k-a-t-i-n-g-l-y useless to boot.

And your post wasn't useless?

euchreprof 2007-05-16 16:10

Re: What's the diff.
 
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Originally Posted by Karel Jansens (Post 48626)
***** ***** ***** ***** ***** ***** ***** ***** ***** ***** ***** ***** ***** ***** ***** ***** ***** ***** ***** ***** ***** ***** ***** ***** ***** ***** ***** ***** ***** ***** ***** ***** ***** ***** ***** ***** ***** ***** ***** *****
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I just wrote b-i-t-c-h fourty times. Why do we have to have this silly puritain censorship on the forum? It's **********-i-n-g annoying, demeaning as h-e-l-l and f-o-r-n-i-c-k-a-t-i-n-g-l-y useless to boot.


Plonk.......

geneven 2007-05-16 17:33

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The "censorship" doesn't bother me. Non-censorship also wouldn't bother me.

Karel Jansens 2007-05-16 18:17

Re: What's the diff.
 
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Originally Posted by geneven (Post 48724)
The "censorship" doesn't bother me. Non-censorship also wouldn't bother me.

It bothers me. I have a very low threshold when it comes to other people, computers or 'bots changing the words I've written. I consider it fraud, even when it's just putting asterisks for words those people, computers or 'bots don't like.

A good nanny is a **********-i-n-g dead nanny...

hjon71 2007-05-17 06:01

Re: What's the diff.
 
Thank you for the clarification. If I need more info. I know where to look now.


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