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Kroll 2010-10-07 11:11

Poll: Number of applets in Diablo5 theme
 
This is a quick poll.
How many applets would you like to have in Diablo5 theme?
The best number for me is 9.

akorvemaker 2010-10-07 11:46

Re: Poll: Number of applets in Diablo5 theme
 
I find the current number works fine.

If the theme allows for more but works the same if fewer are enabled, that doesn't bother me at all.

If allowing for more reduces the title bar, I'd prefer not, but I won't be too upset.

I'd also want it to continue to work as well as possible in landscape mode.

Overall, I'm just really pleased that Diablo5, Telescope, and Opera have breathed new life into my N810 :)

auouymous 2010-10-07 11:49

Re: Poll: Number of applets in Diablo5 theme
 
Can it be 9 in landscape and 7 in portrait?

Kroll 2010-10-07 13:36

Re: Poll: Number of applets in Diablo5 theme
 
Quote:

Can it be 9 in landscape and 7 in portrait?
No. Same thing for both modes.
The reason why I really wanna have 9 applets is:
1. Telescope applet
2. Advanced power applet
3. advanced brightness applet
4. load applet
5. IM applet
6. connection status applet
7. big statusbarclock hours
8. big statusbarclock minutes
9. Telescope Launcher applet (without it 8 is ok) or minigpsd applet.

inoshishi 2010-10-07 14:06

Re: Poll: Number of applets in Diablo5 theme
 
I would say about 10. My list looks a lot like Kroll's. But I wouldn't mind having some space for a few extra ones. I'm stil hoping for amazing new upcoming apps :)

cstryon 2010-10-07 15:48

Re: Poll: Number of applets in Diablo5 theme
 
What is the max amount in portrait?

Kroll 2010-10-07 16:58

Re: Poll: Number of applets in Diablo5 theme
 
inoshishi, remember, more applets you have - less space for Title. Especially in portrait (9 will kill Title "slightly less than fully", 10 kills Title completely). It means you will unable to reach menu by tape on application title (because there is no Title at all in this case) and you can't see Title.
Ok, lets take out 2 telescope applets (we already have home (F5) button to launch Telescope or Launcher) and we have 2 additional places. Think about it carefully.

akorvemaker 2010-10-07 17:17

Re: Poll: Number of applets in Diablo5 theme
 
Currently I need 1 applet space for the notifications thing (the notifications and applet-switcher normally in the bottom left for the default themes). If that could be worked into the application switcher in diablo5 (the upper left corner), that frees up some space.

Typically I have:
1. Advanced Power
2. Advanced Backlight
3. Connection status
4. Load applet
5. IM status
6. Notifications
7+ GPS, USB, etc (as needed)

auouymous 2010-10-07 21:42

Re: Poll: Number of applets in Diablo5 theme
 
I don't have a title in portrait with 7 status bar apps and tapping the close button (X) opens the app menu instead of closing window.

If you have a small number of status bar apps, say 3, and the theme supports 9-10, would most of those apps be buried in the close button? Or can the theme be made to align them to the left side?

Kroll 2010-10-07 22:28

Re: Poll: Number of applets in Diablo5 theme
 
auouymous, nice question.

Yes, hildon can align applets ONLY to the right side and this is a really pain in my ***. Mitrandir currently is trying to change it and make applets align to the left side so it will be not so bad, BUT

Title position is static. If we decrease quantity of applets from 7 to 3 we will have 160 pixels of free space between applets and Title. According to last Diablo5 version things are pretty the same, but here we will have space between left edge of the screen and applets.

So IMO I should make a few builds of the theme with different numbers of applets allowed. Anyway I want to wait a few days and see what Mitrandir can do with Hildon, maybe we will find better way.

inoshishi 2010-10-10 12:27

Re: Poll: Number of applets in Diablo5 theme
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kroll (Post 835553)
inoshishi, remember, more applets you have - less space for Title. Especially in portrait (9 will kill Title "slightly less than fully", 10 kills Title completely). It means you will unable to reach menu by tape on application title (because there is no Title at all in this case) and you can't see Title.

You're right, completely killing the Title is not a good idea. If we can remove the two Telescope applets (menu and application switcher), 8 should be fine.

Jaygo333 2010-10-11 04:52

Re: Poll: Number of applets in Diablo5 theme
 
Not to be counter intuitive, but is there a way to also shorten the bar to add more screen space for the title?

After the recent introduction of sysui, I find my bar to be a bit empty with all my usual applets taken care of by sysui.

http://imgur.com/74pZg.png

P.S. Also if you don't mind, does anybody know of any wonderful fonts that seem to compliment the device well? I find the usual installed fonts already boring.

Jaygo333 2010-10-11 04:58

Re: Poll: Number of applets in Diablo5 theme
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kroll (Post 835411)
No. Same thing for both modes.
The reason why I really wanna have 9 applets is:
1. Telescope applet
2. Advanced power applet
3. advanced brightness applet
4. load applet
5. IM applet
6. connection status applet
7. big statusbarclock hours
8. big statusbarclock minutes
9. Telescope Launcher applet (without it 8 is ok) or minigpsd applet.

This list is wonderful. I already have some of these but what applets are number 5, 6 and 8?
Are number 5 and 6, RTCOMM and the default connection applet? Tried to set up RTCOMM a while back with the default connection applet and was told to abandon it because it was considered old.

A link to the related threads or .debs would be wonderful.
Thanks again.

Kroll 2010-10-11 14:48

Re: Poll: Number of applets in Diablo5 theme
 
5 and 6 is built-in applets of wireless connection status (mobile phone or ad-hock or Hot spot) and status of built-in Instant messenger.
7 and 8 is two applets of one thing. The clock use space of two applets because it is pretty big. Ok, tomorrow I will make a two packages: for 9 and 10 applets.

giladmttw 2010-10-11 22:00

Re: Poll: Number of applets in Diablo5 theme
 
I already installed the package posted by mitrandir for libhildondesktop which enables 12 applets, what happens if I install your package ? can I tweak your theme.xml to have 12 applets ? how can I retain 12 applets and still install your latest candy ?
I need at least 12 but would prefer 14 because I have no room for software update icon:)

http://img830.imageshack.us/img830/2...reenshotry.png

Kroll 2010-10-11 22:10

Re: Poll: Number of applets in Diablo5 theme
 
giladmttw
wtf, dude :D Do u really use all this applets in the same time?!
If you install theme update your modified files will be overwritten by new ones.

giladmttw 2010-10-12 08:48

Re: Poll: Number of applets in Diablo5 theme
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kroll (Post 838787)
giladmttw
wtf, dude :D Do u really use all this applets in the same time?!
If you install theme update your modified files will be overwritten by new ones.

Not at the same time but it's better to have an icon you rarely use - like usb for moving a file to a usb key once a month than to have more title area which has no use at all. I will install your deb anyway for a fresh look.


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