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menno 2010-10-12 15:05

Lock the desktop from edits
 
Is there an easy way to lock the desktop from edits?

I keep moving or deleting the widgets when either on the phone or by accident when it's in my pocket.

Would be good if the edit could be disabled somehow, especially teh one where if you click and hold on the desktop, it goes into edit mode. This seems to be the one which most often activates by accident.

Cheers,
Menno

zifis 2010-10-12 15:15

Re: Lock the desktop from edits
 
How are you doing that? you need to tap on the little cog icon in order to move or delete shortcuts and widgets.

JonWW 2010-10-12 15:20

Re: Lock the desktop from edits
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zifis (Post 839344)
How are you doing that? you need to tap on the little cog icon in order to move or delete shortcuts and widgets.

No you don't, a long press on the desktop will cause it to go into edit mode.

I agree very annoying as I have done this several times and ended up with deleted widgets and widgets moved to different screens - and there is no viable reason for a long press to enter edit mode. IMO

menno 2010-10-12 15:20

Re: Lock the desktop from edits
 
If you tap and keep down the background of the desktop it goes into edit mode.

I've just read about a modified hildon desktop which has a gconf setting (/apps/osso/hildon-desktop/key-actions/disable_edit) to disable the desktop edit.

http://my.arava.co.il/~matan/repo/Mo...n_Desktop.html

So I'll give that a try when I get a chance.

zifis 2010-10-12 15:26

Re: Lock the desktop from edits
 
...but you do lock screen when you put it in your pocket don't you? and still you find that things are shifted and/or deleted?

JonWW 2010-10-12 15:28

Re: Lock the desktop from edits
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zifis (Post 839359)
...but you do lock screen when you put it in your pocket don't you? and still you find that things are shifted and/or deleted?

Occasionally you forget, easily done if the screen has switched off.

cfh11 2010-10-13 14:51

Re: Lock the desktop from edits
 
???... but the screen does lock after a timeout unless the keyboard is open

JonWW 2010-10-13 17:11

Re: Lock the desktop from edits
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cfh11 (Post 840126)
???... but the screen does lock after a timeout unless the keyboard is open

Ah yes, but I have Lock screen automaticly switched off. If the phone keeps locking itself all the time when you are using it it becomes a real bind.

richwhite 2010-10-13 17:20

Re: Lock the desktop from edits
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JonWW (Post 840232)
Ah yes, but I have Lock screen automaticly switched off. If the phone keeps locking itself all the time when you are using it it becomes a real bind.

No offence, but you're at fault then. You have the option to autolock and that isn't good enough (because swiping that switch is so much effort...) and not autolocking isn't good enough but the screen times out. There's a simple solution, and it's what i do myself: when you pick the phone up to put in your pocket, hit the power button or tap the screen. That will let you know if it's locked or unlocked.

AgogData 2010-10-13 17:21

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Quote:

but I have Lock screen automaticly switched off
i dont wanna go off topic but how do you do that ? from simple bright status applet ?

richwhite 2010-10-13 17:23

Re: Lock the desktop from edits
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AgogData (Post 840238)
i dont wanna go off topic but how do you do that ? from simple bright status applet ?

settings>display>lock screen automatically

JonWW 2010-10-13 21:53

Re: Lock the desktop from edits
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by richwhite (Post 840236)
No offence, but you're at fault then.

That made me smile :D

Quote:

Originally Posted by richwhite (Post 840236)
You have the option to autolock and that isn't good enough (because swiping that switch is so much effort...)

Yep it's such an effort.

On a different note; I'll use the phone alot in the evenings when I slob out in front of the TV checking my emails and browsing the web. When something interesting comes on the TV I might watch that and forget the phone for a bit, when I go back to the phone I just want to continue where I was and not to have to unlock it all the time.
I also will watch Sky News using gstreamer, this alows me to use it more like a radio as gstreamer doesn't keep the screen lit, when I hear something interesting that I want to watch all I need to do is tap the screen and it will jump into life. If I want the screen lit all the time I will watch in the Media Player.
This is my personal preference.
I don't have any problem flicking the switch to un/lock the phone, I just don't want to do it all the time when I am using it. The risk is that on the odd occation it might be unlocked when in my pocket.

The problem the the OP has is that only the cog should activate desktop editting not a long press, I agree with him.

richwhite 2010-10-13 22:02

Re: Lock the desktop from edits
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JonWW (Post 840394)
That made me smile :D



Yep it's such an effort.

On a different note; I'll use the phone alot in the evenings when I slob out in front of the TV checking my emails and browsing the web. When something interesting comes on the TV I might watch that and forget the phone for a bit, when I go back to the phone I just want to continue where I was and not to have to unlock it all the time.
I also will watch Sky News using gstreamer, this alows me to use it more like a radio as gstreamer doesn't keep the screen lit, when I hear something interesting that I want to watch all I need to do is tap the screen and it will jump into life. If I want the screen lit all the time I will watch in the Media Player.
This is my personal preference.
I don't have any problem flicking the switch to un/lock the phone, I just don't want to do it all the time when I am using it. The risk is that on the odd occation it might be unlocked when in my pocket.

The problem the the OP has is that only the cog should activate desktop editting not a long press, I agree with him.

I agree too, and there have been a couple of instances where like you i have put the phone in my pocket unlocked. But I consider that firmly my own fault for not checking, and usually I tap the screen and if it lights up I simply lock it.

On a different note, you can watch stuff on gstreamer? Does it have channels preloaded?

linuxeventually 2010-10-13 22:19

Re: Lock the desktop from edits
 
With qwerty12 gone you guys are SOL ;)

In Maemo4 there is the Drag Lock applet.
http://talk.maemo.org/attachment.php...1&d=1248670976
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=30508
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=24819&page=2
https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2639 (guess you should re-open it)

JonWW 2010-10-13 22:32

Re: Lock the desktop from edits
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by richwhite (Post 840401)
I tap the screen and if it lights up I simply lock it.

Same here, it's now second nature.

Quote:

Originally Posted by richwhite (Post 840401)
On a different note, you can watch stuff on gstreamer? Does it have channels preloaded?

Thought you might ask. No, no channels, I have a desktop shortcut to load it. gstreamer runs from the terminal.
Found how to do it from here:
http://zaheer.merali.org/articles/20...m-live-stream/

YoDude 2010-10-13 22:54

Re: Lock the desktop from edits
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JonWW (Post 840394)
That made me smile :D



Yep it's such an effort.

...

The problem the the OP has is that only the cog should activate desktop editting not a long press, I agree with him.

Plus 1

..and that should be the approach.

I'm sure it would be the approach if qwerty12 was around (heavy sigh).

pelago 2010-10-14 13:05

Re: Lock the desktop from edits
 
Even if you used Matan's modified hildon-desktop to stop desktop widgets moving around, if you're not locking your device before putting it in your pocket then you're asking for trouble. You could easily click on one of the widgets and start loading apps etc. Really, you need to get into the habit of locking it before putting it in your pocket, or re-enable the auto-lock.

Personally I use the auto-lock, but if I want to keep the device awake I keep the keyboard slid out. That way a single tap of the screen will wake it up, but if I want to put it in my pocket I would slide the keyboard shut which will cause it to lock after the timeout.

YoDude 2010-10-15 01:57

Re: Lock the desktop from edits
 
After a 10 hour day sometimes the last two hours are in a car. When I get home I tend to grab up the N900, another cell phone, a brief case, maybe one of the wifes coffee cups I walked to the car with the other day, and a note pad. The keys and case are in my hands and everything else is in a pocket ad hoc like.

Going out in the morning it is easy to remember to activate the slide lock before I even leave my desk. When getting out of the car though I usually have other things on my mind.

Rather than teach old dogs new tricks the thought here is to play on the N900's strength and find this parameter and eliminate "long press" from the desktops behaviors.

Long press serves no purpose other than to activate the edit mode by bypassing the need for the second press on the gear pop tart. It also interrupts the auto lock timers routine.

My perfect case would be to move the desktop settings to a status bar app and eliminate activation from the screen altogether. Then a long press could be used for something else like activating a favorite app, or the phone, or nothing at all...
:)

wizbowes 2010-10-29 12:21

Re: Lock the desktop from edits
 
What a load of self righteous crap. Somebody comes here and asks how to do a simple thing and everybody here tells him wrong to want to do it. Just because something isn't an issue to you doesn't mean it not an issue to somebody else. Yes locking the screen is an answer - but it may not be the best the answer because somebody might not remember.

I also had the same issue which I've now solved. I installed the modified-hildon-desktop as mentioned elsewhere, and queen beecon for which I made my own widget. I wrote the following script which allows me to switch the editing on and off. It works for me and I've stopped having to rebuild my desktop every couple of days.

#!/bin/sh
j="true"
i=$(gconftool-2 -g /apps/osso/hildon-desktop/key-actions/disable_edit )
if [ $QBW_EXEC_REASON == "QBW_CLICK" ]
then
if [ "$j" == "$i" ]
then
echo "Enabled"
gconftool-2 -s /apps/osso/hildon-desktop/key-actions/disable_edit -t bool false
exit 1
else
echo "Disabled"
gconftool-2 -s /apps/osso/hildon-desktop/key-actions/disable_edit -t bool true
exit 0
fi
else
if [ "$j" == "$i" ]
then
echo "Disabled"
exit 0
else
echo "Enabled"
exit 1
fi
fi

menno 2011-01-11 16:04

Re: Lock the desktop from edits
 
I've been to busy to try the modified hildon desktop, so gonna try now. Glad to hear it works tho.

Also just to say, that I often also move my desktop widgets when on the phone, by having the phone against my ear & cheek. So I think it's a real design fault.


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