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benny1967 2010-10-14 19:38
Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by wmarone (Post 841232)
A minor translation for those of us who haven't studied German in ages?
it's mostly "i'm right, you're wrong" - "no, i'm right", but the guy who runs the meegolounge.com site says he bets the N9 will not be released with meego/harmattan (as nokia told us so far), but with a OS based on the real meego.

also, he says it'll be only next year, not end 2010 end not at the meego conference as some might have expected.

he sounds pretty certain about it.

arcean 2010-10-14 19:41
Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by HellFlyer (Post 841215)
A quick question , MeeGo's official browser is Fennec right?
Yes, but gui is qt-based :p

HellFlyer 2010-10-14 19:41
Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 841254)
when are santa coming?
more important question is where ;)

wmarone 2010-10-14 19:42
Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by benny1967 (Post 841250)
it's mostly "i'm right, you're wrong" - "no, i'm right", but the guy who runs the meegolounge.com site says he bets the N9 will not be released with meego/harmattan (as nokia told us so far), but with a OS based on the real meego.

also, he says it'll be only next year, not end 2010 end not at the meego conference as some might have expected.

he sounds pretty certain about it.
People can sound very certain about a lot of things on the internet.

Considering how far from done MeeGo itself is, I find it hard to believe. I also don't believe that Nokia would be so stupid as to release an A8 based phone barely 5 months before Apple (and all the other vendors) start releasing A9 based phones.

They'd be better off canceling it and focusing on the next step up.

HellFlyer 2010-10-14 19:42
Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by arcean (Post 841255)
Yes, but gui is qt-based :p
you mean we can port it too? :D

benny1967 2010-10-14 19:43
Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by wmarone (Post 841258)
I also don't believe that Nokia would be so stupid as to...
After all it's still Nokia. Plus, they got new management - there must be a reason why Ari Jaaksi left.

erki232 2010-10-14 19:46
Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 841122)
where is the joke?
Nokia sell developer phone non developers.
I like N900, i like linux based os etc. but i want sometimes entertainment.

arcean 2010-10-14 19:49
Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by HellFlyer (Post 841259)
you mean we can port it too? :D
Actually, there is a qt version for Maemo 5 (fremantle-qt branch)
http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.o...k_en-US/dists/

maxximuscool 2010-10-14 19:50
Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Grok (Post 841093)
I feel like i'm in a middle school's girls washroom......:eek:

Listening to the gossip and banter.:rolleyes:
I believe that is called B.I.T.C.H.ing lol.

elie-7 2010-10-14 19:52
Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by erki232 (Post 841264)
Nokia sell developer phone non developers.
I like N900, i like linux based os etc. but i want sometimes entertainment.
entertainment ....... here it is : openarena, angry birds, emulator to almost every gaming platform out there, full flash 9.4 is damm fun with all the videos, animations and games, dual boot android, and you'll get all the 'entertainment' android users have, its really easy, ..... this thing can do it all, peace out.

maxximuscool 2010-10-14 19:55
Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by benny1967 (Post 841261)
After all it's still Nokia. Plus, they got new management - there must be a reason why Ari Jaaksi left.
May be the reason is something to do with the N9 and Maemo6? Since he is a man solely responsible for those program.

ericsson 2010-10-14 19:57
Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
When will this wonder (PR1.3) come?

Dave999 2010-10-14 20:05
Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ericsson (Post 841283)
When will this wonder (PR1.3) come?
I can already feel the disappointment of many users over the look and feel of meego on n900.

Who is manage the expectations here...not me :)

eitama 2010-10-14 20:11
Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by HellFlyer (Post 840552)
Your stupid trolling is not funny and if you're being sarcastic you're doing it wrong. Please go away


As for the news thanks for sharing arcticrobot :)

I especially liked this part

The PR 1.3 update is quite close now, and with that you can easily dual boot between Maemo and Meego on your N900. :D
LOL - I thought it was super funny, Grow some sense of humor man!
Here's some water to get you started *Water*

maxximuscool 2010-10-14 20:14
Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
Enough I'm one of the Nokia insider, at this rate I can't keep the release date secret anymore. Yeah the release date of this PR will be sometimes in 2010, if not we will release it in 2011.

There you go.. Man I hope I don't get fire for this.

danramos 2010-10-14 20:18
Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by maxximuscool (Post 841303)
Enough I'm one of the Nokia insider, at this rate I can't keep the release date secret anymore. Yeah the release date of this PR will be sometimes in 2010, if not we will release it in 2011.

There you go.. Man I hope I don't get fire for this.
Can't delay it any further than that. The world ends in 2012, for crying out loud. :)

shockgiga 2010-10-14 20:30
Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by HellFlyer (Post 841249)
ahahahaha you might want to paraphrase that sentence :D :D :D
LOLOLOL too funny

maxximuscool 2010-10-14 21:23
Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by danramos (Post 841310)
Can't delay it any further than that. The world ends in 2012, for crying out loud. :)
About the 2012 thing, we knew about it so we will make sure the update came before the 12/12/2012. At latest would be 11/12/2012. So you have about 1 day to celebrate before we all vanished completely.

kevinp93 2010-10-14 21:29
Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by maxximuscool (Post 841381)
About the 2012 thing, we knew about it so we will make sure the update came before the 12/12/2012. At latest would be 11/12/2012. So you have about 1 day to celebrate before we all vanished completely.
Are you sure that the world will end on the 12/12/2012? I was told that it will end on the 20/12/2012 at 20:12 :D

maxximuscool 2010-10-14 21:46
Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by kevinp93 (Post 841383)
Are you sure that the world will end on the 12/12/2012? I was told that it will end on the 20/12/2012 at 20:12 :D
Hahha well they lied to you buddy. It is end on the 12.12.12 lol. Lots of 12. That is what my dead Myan grampa told me. Oh wait he is dead like thousand of years ago lol.

lanwellon 2010-10-14 22:16
Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
Braaaaaaaaaaaaavo !!!

stlpaul 2010-10-14 22:22
Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by radiowc (Post 840884)
Wow! that a good news... official dual boot for Maemo and Meego coming from Nokia?? Thats awesome....almost give up on N900, but now we might see some light :)
Not official dualboot, just kexec support in Pr1.3 kernel which makes it easier for you to install u-boot & run meego from your SDcard. Basically same as you can do today, but without so much flashing every time you want to boot to meego ;)

Meego on N900 is still (and forever?) unofficial, unsupported, at your own risk, etc.

(as far as I understand)

Limo_4190 2010-10-14 22:27
Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
sorry to disturb u guys but does any1 knows when exactly is it going to be available cuz my N900 needs to be seriously updated?! :D

Jaco2k 2010-10-14 22:28
Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by kevinp93 (Post 841383)
Are you sure that the world will end on the 12/12/2012? I was told that it will end on the 20/12/2012 at 20:12 :D
Is that GMT time or...? :D

If it ends in stages, kinda like in New Year's Eve, I can call my parents and ask them how it was... :)

maxximuscool 2010-10-14 22:29
Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Limo_4190 (Post 841425)
sorry to disturb u guys but does any1 knows when exactly is it going to be available cuz my N900 needs to be seriously updated?! :D
It will come eventually. Sometimes 2010 and the latest would be 2011. Hope this answered your question

shockgiga 2010-10-14 22:44
Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
i hope there will be a cool nokia style boot loader interface :)

maxximuscool 2010-10-14 22:45
Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
Woohoo Bring this Nokia!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Gfs5ujSw1Q

shockgiga 2010-10-14 22:49
Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
ah yes there are some china android tablets running those dual core chips already.

maxximuscool 2010-10-14 22:55
Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by shockgiga (Post 841440)
ah yes there are some china android tablets running those dual core chips already.
Yay I really hope MeeGO would have dual core support.

http://www.tradestead.com/wholesale-...en_p11082.html

This is insanely cheap :(

SubCore 2010-10-14 23:00
Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by thp (Post 841181)
See the comments from here. Feel free to start a new thread :p
that doesn't exactly look like a reliable source of information. rather the opposite.
pure speculation, without any basis.
his reply to your question (among other things) certainly gives that impression.

wmarone 2010-10-15 02:01
Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by maxximuscool (Post 841443)
Yay I really hope MeeGO would have dual core support.

http://www.tradestead.com/wholesale-...en_p11082.html

This is insanely cheap :(
It is, but that only makes me extremely suspicious. Also, MeeGo uses Linux which is used on systems from one core up to systems with many thousands of cores ;)

F2thaK 2010-10-15 03:26
Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
cheap ****...........

sjgadsby 2010-10-15 03:38
Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ikirk (Post 841007)
Sure is. I meant difficult in the sense we will not have any help/support from Nokia, which would have been nice.
Dual booting probably isn't included the Maemo 5 design specifications. After all, that's what blocks all the other enhancements.

More serious & less snarky:

Realistically, an official, full-featured, Nokia-provided boot manager was a bit much to hope for. Including such a thing in a firmware release would make it Nokia Care supported. That's far fetched, especially since the second OS, the entire point of the boot manager, is a no-no for Nokia Care.

Try drawing those lines for staff in the call center.

A working kexec is probably the best we can hope for, as far as MeeGo dual-boot support goes, in PR1.3. And that's not bad.

The Maemo community has been developing clever and effective multiboot solutions for Internet Tablets and the N900 for years now. For much of that time, while Nokia did nothing specifically prevent multiboot, they did nothing to enable it either. Recently though, multiboot-friendly patches have been making into official Maemo releases, helping the community to build better solutions more easily.

MeeGo is evolving rapidly, and the community multiboot solution should do the same. In the end, that's better than waiting five months for a maybe-PR1.4 to improve an official Nokia boot manager.

Siddarth 2010-10-15 05:47
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WOW....I still cant believe Its TRUE!.....Looks Like Its Kinda Suprise for All N900 Lover!

Siddarth 2010-10-15 05:49
Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
Expect The Unexpected.......Nokia Still Loves N900!

maxximuscool 2010-10-15 06:18
Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
I really hope they openup the source for all the closed source drivers and apps. If they can't fixed the problems then why not let the community solve the problems instead? I believe the community is capable of doing a better job in maintaining and fixing bugs by releasing small fixes instead of waiting 5months for a simple fixed to be packaged into an image.

Diph 2010-10-15 06:36
Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by maxximuscool (Post 841438)
Are you sure you want to carry that in your pocket?

ossipena 2010-10-15 06:46
Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by maxximuscool (Post 841619)
I really hope they openup the source for all the closed source drivers and apps. If they can't fixed the problems then why not let the community solve the problems instead? I believe the community is capable of doing a better job in maintaining and fixing bugs by releasing small fixes instead of waiting 5months for a simple fixed to be packaged into an image.
who exactly is "they"?

slender 2010-10-15 06:55
Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ossipena (Post 841643)
who exactly is "they"?
Who knows. Probably chips manufactures and subcontractors. Maybe maximuscool wishes that those parties have weak moment and they give Nokia permission to release their drivers as OS.

Or maybe not. :|

elie-7 2010-10-15 07:47
Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
maybe we can get an intergalactical teleporter with pr1.3, it teleports u to the end of the galaxy. :D


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