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maxximuscool 2010-10-18 10:41

Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by danramos (Post 843987)
Huh? I thought the 2012 "end of the world", Age of Aquarius, Galactic Alignment, etc. thing was supposedly on December 21, 2012? Honestly, I hadn't EVER seen it as 12/12 until you just mentioned it. According to this Wikipedia page, I only see ONE popular reference to that date (by Evangelical Christian minister John Hagee): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_phenomenon

Are you a believer? or scepticism?
I'm not believing in such bullshiiting prediction. Only fool would believe that the worl would simply end by galactic alignment. Such gravity isn't enough to and unlikely to cause such disasterous event. As long the sun isn't turning to a red giant then the earth will always be safe in the habitatible zone and the only things that may harmed the earth are Sun, asteriods, and fastening of global warming causing by human activities. That's all I believe :) I'm a science believer.

!!Nokia N900!! 2010-10-18 10:47

Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
what is writing, then will happen.....scientifically, the issues about 2012 is true if you go deep scientifically. Also, you can see a lot of disasters happening aroung the world ( flooding, fires , increasing in temperatures,....) but,....mmmmmm, lets hope to see N9 soon lool

longcat 2010-10-18 11:02

Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
2012 does not exist

maxximuscool 2010-10-18 11:16

Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
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Originally Posted by longcat (Post 844025)
2012 does not exist

Wrong!
2012 does exist. lol only 2 more years then it will be 2012 and we will see N9 by then.

2012 does exist but the end of the world isn't in 2012. The end of the world is when Osama Binladin dropping suicide bombers equipped with Nuclear bomb to their waist into every nations around the globe.

longcat 2010-10-18 11:19

Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
no, 2012 will exist in 2 years

maxximuscool 2010-10-18 11:26

Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
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Originally Posted by longcat (Post 844034)
no, 2012 will exist in 2 years

If the world will end in 2012 then I'll go around and date as many hot virgins (GIrls) around the world haha and recording sex tape with my N900 and N9 so I can watch it in hell. Hey some religion said that when you die you'll get 7 virgins lol. So I don't want to get those adter death, I would prefered before death.

mmlado 2010-10-18 11:32

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Originally Posted by maxximuscool (Post 844038)
If the world will end in 2012 then I'll go around and date as many hot virgins (GIrls) around the world haha and recording sex tape with my N900 and N9 so I can watch it in hell. Hey some religion said that when you die you'll get 7 virgins lol. So I don't want to get those adter death, I would prefered before death.

It's Islam, and it's 72. But only true believers will get them...

http://www.wikiislam.net/wiki/72_Virgins

maxximuscool 2010-10-18 11:38

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Originally Posted by mmlado (Post 844043)
It's Islam, and it's 72. But only true believers will get them...

http://www.wikiislam.net/wiki/72_Virgins

I know but I don't want to be rude to say it out loud. But no thanks, I don't want to believe that either. There is no life after death. Only N900 has life after death. It will indeed becoming a brick in my house.

jsa 2010-10-18 11:44

Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
How about taking the end of the world stuff and virgin sextapes to off-topic?

volt 2010-10-18 11:46

Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rushmore (Post 842344)
Nokia did not want to invest the time and money in working with Adobe.

That's what I said. I am guessing this is directed in my general direction, since I brought up the money for flash update subject. That you read it all wrong is all on your end.

I have no overwhelming love for Nokia, but I understand that ANY company have reservations against doing things they never promised to do, that cost money and moves resources away from new products to old products, without gaining any extra income from it. Adobe and Nokia are both elements in the "ANY company" section. As long as their costs outweigh their benefits, there will be no update. This is not any spinning defence of anyone - it's the bitter reality. Nokia will work on an upgrade if the lack of upgrade damages them, not just because it renders the N900 obsolete.

Pointing out unrealistic expectations is not the same as defending the profit-chasing corporation that the unrealistic expectations will not be met by.

NvyUs 2010-10-18 12:00

Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
nokia is an Open Screen Project partner therefore Flash 10.1 is Royalty Free to them so costs no money for the update. see post 289
only cost for Nokia is allocating a few people to port it to N900 which as already been half done if the adobe n900 demo was real.

volt 2010-10-18 12:02

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Originally Posted by maxximuscool (Post 844010)
P.I is an internation import of a product that isn't locally made for that region. Usually Asia import. Cheaper but quality somewhat vary. It doesn't come with Nokia warranty.

Well, that isn't quite right. Or at least not 100% accurate.

Parallel import is goods that are sold on a national market by local actors without going through the national distributor.

In example: Samsung could produce a TV called Model1, in Korea. This TV can be 110/220V compatible, and it may even come with both cables. The official route to a local market could be Samsung Korea - Samsung Western Europe - Samsung Scandinavia - Samsung Sweden - Elshop.se. However, Samsung Scandinavia is a small organization and the TV is expensive before it reaches Elshop.se. So, Elshop.se instead decides to buy the same TV from the larger Elshop.pl who buys it cheaper, directly from Samsung Eastern Europe. They bypass Samsung Sweden and Samsung Scandinavia and even Samsung Western Europe.

The product would still be the same and if Samsung has a world wide warranty, Samsung Sweden might even have to be their service point. Normally they'd deny you that though, and in case of a return things may be more troublesome.

The product, however, would normally not be of poorer quality, like you suggest. Even if they'd deal with Samsung Asia. Poorer quality = counterfeits.

volt 2010-10-18 12:07

Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NvyUs (Post 844056)
nokia is an Open Screen Project partner therefore Flash 10.1 is Royalty Free to them so costs no money for the update. see post 289
only cost for Nokia is allocating a few people to port it to N900.

If the ready made existing full linux version worked on Maemo/N900 without adapting, we'd already have it without any help needed from Nokia/Adobe. If the ready made existing version doesn't work without adapting, adapting must be done. Adapting costs.

What we're talking about is not only the licensing fees. Not only the work hours. Work hours are expensive, but also a limited resource which means fewer work hours go elsewhere. There's a cost, and either Nokia or Adobe or both needs to pay it.

Edit: changed it so I'm not making claims about what other people than myself mean. :p

NvyUs 2010-10-18 12:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by volt (Post 844060)
If the ready made existing full linux version worked on Maemo/N900 without adapting, we'd already have it without any help needed from Nokia/Adobe. If the ready made existing version doesn't work without adapting, adapting must be done. Adapting costs.

What you're talking about is only the licensing fees. Not the work hours. Work hours are expensive, but also a limited resource which means fewer work hours go elsewhere. There's a cost, and either Nokia or Adobe or both needs to pay it.

adapting it to maemo 5 was done already, adobe even demoed it, and i'm guessing its already running on maemo6 on a N9 somewhere. so costs will be very little, just needs a little spit polish.

volt 2010-10-18 12:12

Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NvyUs (Post 844061)
adapting it to maemo was done already, adobe even demoed it, so costs will be very little, just needs a spit polish.

I think you'd be surprised about what spit polish costs when it comes to software development. Also, while Adobe demoed flash, it says nothing about the state of the Flash Player at large. Was it a fully working, complete adaptation, or was it just hacked together enough to, you know, manage to hold a demo?

neotalk 2010-10-18 12:37

Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
If you consider that most folk have been wanting/waiting for flash 10.1 since they first released this phone then maybe you can understand how frustrated and severely let down folk are feeling. And if you have ever tried contacting nokia or adobe about this then you may also know that they play the pass the parcel game or try avoidance regarding flash and bury their heads in sand or send you some scripted B.S. that is utterly meaningless.


just my 2 cents worth!!!!

vivmak 2010-10-18 12:45

Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by maxximuscool (Post 844010)
P.I is an internation import of a product that isn't locally made for that region. Usually Asia import. Cheaper but quality somewhat vary. It doesn't come with Nokia warranty.

It's Nokia's fault though not directly. Nokia recomended retail price is $1150NZD, basically always over $1000 price range on any new Nokia N-series. My first 6680 was released 8months oversea before it reached NZ and sold at $1100NZD oversea is $500NZD, My N95-1 is 7months released else where and hit NZ after that cost $1200NZD, My N93-i $1180 released after 1year over sea. lol damn!

I spent so much grands on Nokia phones.Nokia NZ is ripping NZders of big time.

buy on ebay for AUD 300 to AUD 400

Jaffa 2010-10-18 12:50

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Originally Posted by benny1967 (Post 841250)
he sounds pretty certain about it.

tmo is full of "certainty"; you should know that that doesn't equal "right" ;-)

danramos 2010-10-18 21:17

Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jsa (Post 844053)
How about taking the end of the world stuff and virgin sextapes to off-topic?

What's the difference? If PR 1.3 doesn't come out before 12/21/2010, what's the point of waiting? ;)

In seriousness, an off-the-cuff joke became an unintentional thread hijack. Sorry about that. :D

volt 2010-10-19 08:59

Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by neotalk (Post 844084)
If you consider that most folk have been wanting/waiting for flash 10.1 since they first released this phone then maybe you can understand how frustrated and severely let down folk are feeling.

Mine doesn't have Flash 10.1 either, and when I bought it I was under the clear understanding that Flash 10.1 would be coming. Wanting doesn't mean getting, that's all I am saying.

danramos 2010-10-19 10:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by volt (Post 844865)
Mine doesn't have Flash 10.1 either, and when I bought it I was under the clear understanding that Flash 10.1 would be coming. Wanting doesn't mean getting, that's all I am saying.

But the wanting is so easy! I do it all the time! :)

geneven 2010-10-19 11:04

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Originally Posted by Flandry (Post 842034)
Seriously, does anyone on t.m.o. read? I feel like bashing my head against the wall while trying to parse this for useful posts.

Seriously, Flandry, since you say you are seriously asking: Yes, some people here read.

If you suspect that everyone on this site is an idiot, you might do better elsewhere.

Flandry 2010-10-19 12:49

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Originally Posted by geneven (Post 844930)
Seriously, Flandry, since you say you are seriously asking: Yes, some people here read.

If you suspect that everyone on this site is an idiot, you might do better elsewhere.

You're right. I should have remembered that i can always count on the resident buzzards to eventually claw through almost dead threads, looking for ways to out-over-the-top the previous best.

I concede.

Rushmore 2010-10-19 14:17

Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NvyUs (Post 843074)
just like I've been saying all along Nokia are the reason why flash 10.1 is not on the n900.
the reasons why is
1. Nokia wants everyone to upgrade to N9 for it
or
2. performance is just not good enough on n900 for Nokia to want to release it.


1. Makes sense. Evil, but makes sense.

2. Flash 10.1 on an assumed "less efficient" Android 2.2 OS, plays more than fine on the same chipset Droid 1. Plays very fine, in fact.

N900 is the perfect device for Flash 10.1, considering the best input options of any similar device. Most Flash game suck without either a keyboard or mouse/stylus.

jcompagner 2010-10-19 15:14

Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
why are so many complaining again over that in my eyes stupid flash.
I dont care about flash

What i really hope is that modest (the horrible email application) gets a much much needed overhaul.. That is the one application on the N900 that is really bad and i can't find a good alternative.. (where is profimail when you need it...)

Dave999 2010-10-19 15:20

Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
Where can I find the good news?

I want news, I can use!

mmlado 2010-10-19 15:28

Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jcompagner (Post 845099)
why are so many complaining again over that in my eyes stupid flash.
I dont care about flash

What i really hope is that modest (the horrible email application) gets a much much needed overhaul.. That is the one application on the N900 that is really bad and i can't find a good alternative.. (where is profimail when you need it...)

Flash 10.1 is important because it's the first one that uses the GPU and not CPU for rendering, which should show very much on a limited device like the N900. For other new things in the new flash... I don't care. :)

inuyasha0209 2010-10-19 15:52

Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
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Originally Posted by Rushmore (Post 845058)
1. Makes sense. Evil, but makes sense.

2. Flash 10.1 on an assumed "less efficient" Android 2.2 OS, plays more than fine on the same chipset Droid 1. Plays very fine, in fact.

N900 is the perfect device for Flash 10.1, considering the best input options of any similar device. Most Flash game suck without either a keyboard or mouse/stylus.

not only Nokia but also Iphone does the same. both they don't have flash cause (i believe) it drains your battery. :eek:
in fact, i love to have flash on my n900:D

lauksas 2010-10-19 16:00

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Originally Posted by ankurs (Post 840655)
seems so !

they need meego out asap, and n900 is perfect test bed.

I agree!:)

bandora 2010-10-19 16:04

Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jcompagner (Post 845099)
why are so many complaining again over that in my eyes stupid flash.
I dont care about flash

Everyone! Quick! Stop talking about Flash! Because jcomagner doesn't care about it... Close this thread immediately!

/s

Just because you don't care about Flash that doesn't mean others don't...

lauksas 2010-10-19 16:06

Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
yes, I love flash in my N900 too, there is one app to avoid battery drain: adflashbock-css
This app plays the flash only when you click on it, very nice, page loads very faster too...

danramos 2010-10-19 20:26

Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bandora (Post 845163)
Everyone! Quick! Stop talking about Flash! Because jcomagner doesn't care about it... Close this thread immediately!

/s

Just because you don't care about Flash that doesn't mean others don't...

I didn't like the N900 either. Can we stop talking about it? :)

lauksas 2010-10-19 20:37

Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
I respect you opinion, the n900 is not a phone for all people.

well i sugget you to unsubscribe on this forum so, because until any aother phone uses maemo, the subject wil be the N900 :P

maxximuscool 2010-10-19 20:43

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How about this? A message from Steve Jobs

lauksas 2010-10-19 22:01

Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
Nice picture man.
that N900 is better than any phone in the market is a fact, probably because of the maemo OS. But there is another fact... it is not a phone for anyone.
I think that:
IPhone is for who want status ( at least in Brazil )
Symbian is for the old guys and normal people
Android is for the geeks that likes technology and google tards
Maemo is for Linux fans and who want to have the best features for free :)

klinglerware 2010-10-19 22:20

Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
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Originally Posted by lauksas (Post 845401)
I respect you opinion, the n900 is not a phone for all people.

well i sugget you to unsubscribe on this forum so, because until any aother phone uses maemo, the subject wil be the N900 :P

There are a lot of Nokia 770, n800, & n810 tablet users on this board who never bought the n900. Many of those users helped to build this community and continue to contribute despite their decision not to purchase the device.

volt 2010-10-19 23:13

Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
Respect to the forum contributors, the tablets are what made itt/tmo.

You don't have to be a Linux fan to be a power user. The N900 is also for power users, who doesn't think Dalvik quite cuts it for a computer OS, and appreciates a system you can utilize to the fullest without meeting unnatural manufacturer limitations on who gets to provide you with software.

I am in fact a person that thinks Windows 7 is a good OS. If Windows Phone 7 was based on a real Windows 7, I'd be interested in it. But on phone hardware, Windows is a joke and Linux isn't. As it is now, this is pretty much the closest we get to a real operating system on a phone. And the OS/software library on the N900 is clearly market leading, in many areas. Lacking in many others.

But you don't have to be a Linux fan to appreciate what you can do with it.

lauksas 2010-10-19 23:21

Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
apologies, but I meant comparing with others OS. I forgot the existence of my old N810 that I sold...

danramos 2010-10-19 23:47

Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
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Originally Posted by lauksas (Post 845554)
apologies, but I meant comparing with others OS. I forgot the existence of my old N810 that I sold...

You... YOU ABANDONED US??? ; . ;

lauksas 2010-10-20 00:00

Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
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Originally Posted by danramos (Post 845576)
You... YOU ABANDONED US??? ; . ;

:o not really I just think that N900 can do better thank two N810 :p, I'm fully adapted to the battery life and screen size, I think that the keyboard is better, performance, number of applications.. that things.
The real thing is that I like maemo/linux too much, and the hardware, is just like another notebook, got it?:)


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