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murphy 2007-10-01 07:19

Re: Plans for Maemo Mapper v2.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by geneven (Post 78658)
I can't find anything free as good as MM for my Windows and Linux computers

There's a fork of Maemo Mapper called (Desktop) Mapper : http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index....r:Onion/Mapper
It aims to work on the 770 Nokia tablet for the OpenStreetMap project but it seems to work fine on Linux according to the screenshots.

unsoundman 2007-10-01 11:25

Re: Plans for Maemo Mapper v2.0
 
hi Gunite and all I am new and stranger to linux but this is a this wonderful forum. I took one and half month to install the maemo mapper finally , from trying 1.3 then to 1.4 got all the problem. Try changing to red pills then blue pills ,then mistral to gregale. All of you guys suggestions I also went through a lot.But i am very satisfy with this programme (still cannot resolved "the POI folder not a db or the files is corrupted.")Mr gunite you must not stop working cause no matter how hard i try i don't give up cause the path will be laid by you and you a like.Maemo will be greatest software for n770 thanks

unsoundman 2007-10-01 11:30

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Oh By the way I succeeded by accidentally install the osso xterm in my n770. From this onwards maemo mapper has been finall install. thanks again.( i am novice and a old man trying new things in the strange world ...linux..windows..etc

scbauer 2007-10-01 18:34

Re: Plans for Maemo Mapper v2.0
 
I'm in for testing. I LOVE using 1.4.6 right now and am very interested in the upcoming changes you suggested. Current setup is 770 w/ OS2006 and Nokia LD-3W GPS receiver.

I would like to second the idea that was posted a few pages back. Somebody mentioned that they would like to be able to "upload location" and I think that would be a great idea. I think all you would need is something similar to the current "Repository URL Format" that would tell MM where to send the data and in what format. Again, MM wouldn't have to do much work other than "visit" the URL. It would be the responsibility of the user to have a script set up on a web server. I'm sure a few people here would be willing to write a script (I know I am) that takes in the LAT/LON and stores that data.

Glad to hear v2 is moving along. Again, when you're ready to start testing, shoot me a PM.

-Scott

anidel 2007-10-01 18:47

Re: Plans for Maemo Mapper v2.0
 
Too many testers already ? if not, I'm in too (n800) and not just to have it before others. I really wanna help by testing it.

PM me if I can be of some help.

unsoundman 2007-10-02 00:30

Re: Plans for Maemo Mapper v2.0
 
Mr Gunite how about release your 2.0 for us to crash test here, it will be a task i dont want to miss .

onion 2007-10-03 08:11

Re: Plans for Maemo Mapper v2.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by murphy (Post 78738)
There's a fork of Maemo Mapper called (Desktop) Mapper : http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index....r:Onion/Mapper
It aims to work on the 770 Nokia tablet for the OpenStreetMap project but it seems to work fine on Linux according to the screenshots.

Oh, someone found my little project :) . Yes, it's supposed to work on both normal desktop and tablets.

murphy 2007-10-03 08:21

Re: Plans for Maemo Mapper v2.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by onion (Post 79415)
Oh, someone found my little project :) . Yes, it's supposed to work on both normal desktop and tablets.

I've emailed you about it for my n800 dependency problem few days ago, don't remember ?

About Maemo Mapper v2, the beta is out, for testing ask the boss :rolleyes:

(I've installed it today and I've no special bugs for now, more tests are on the way...)

iammarkus 2007-10-03 13:11

Re: Plans for Maemo Mapper v2.0
 
Mr Gunite,
Please we all want version 2... All together now... Mr Gunite Mr Gunite Mr Gunite Mr Gunite Mr Gunite !!! Version 2 please...

LOL!!

Mara 2007-10-03 13:15

Re: Plans for Maemo Mapper v2.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by iammarkus (Post 79478)
Mr Gunite,
Please we all want version 2... All together now... Mr Gunite Mr Gunite Mr Gunite Mr Gunite Mr Gunite !!! Version 2 please...

LOL!!

Who is this Mr. Gunite? ;)

Mr. Gnuite: If you want someone to test the Chinook version of version 2.... you might PM me... ;)

murphy 2007-10-03 13:25

Re: Plans for Maemo Mapper v2.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by iammarkus (Post 79478)
Mr Gunite,
Please we all want version 2... All together now... Mr Gunite Mr Gunite Mr Gunite Mr Gunite Mr Gunite !!! Version 2 please...

LOL!!

It's NOT the version 2, it's a BETA of what will be version 2 (about box still display 1.4.3).
And sorry for the 'is out', it's a private/limited beta test so it will not be delivered to anyone for some 'licensing reason' and there's surely a lot of bugs/not finished functionnalities inside.

iammarkus 2007-10-03 17:57

Re: Plans for Maemo Mapper v2.0
 
I know its beta... and for sure there will be bugs.. So I take it there has been a limted beta release? If so, can you confirm the map rotation is part of this release????

Thanks
MD

iammarkus 2007-10-03 18:05

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...I was looking through the postings and saw that some of us would be willing to pay Gunite for his labours. I know Gunite has said this is a hobby for him however, for me, I would be more than willing to send some $ his way for a solid version 2.0 with all the new features he planned for.

Perhaps a moderator could poll the user group, ask who would be willing to part with a few $ for our map god Gunite!..

Perhaps, we could start a separate posting so that we could start collecting donations for Gunite.

MD

TPC 2007-10-03 18:09

Re: Plans for Maemo Mapper v2.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gnuite (Post 77826)
I must just take you (and other willing victims) up on that. I can't guarantee program stability; you'll probably lose map data and/or track data. But it definitely can't hurt to have some sort of beta program to help iron out the bugs.

Anyone else interested? I'll contact you through ITT PM, if I decide to host a beta.

I'm definetly interested. I hope you provide the beta source for your beta testers too, since I would find it interesting to poke around a bit in it. Feels kind of useless making patches for the currently released version, since you have gotten so much further ahead on 2.0 anyway.

Green_Star 2007-10-03 18:30

Re: Plans for Maemo Mapper v2.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by iammarkus (Post 79556)
...I was looking through the postings and saw that some of us would be willing to pay Gunite for his labours. I know Gunite has said this is a hobby for him however, for me, I would be more than willing to send some $ his way for a solid version 2.0 with all the new features he planned for.

Perhaps a moderator could poll the user group, ask who would be willing to part with a few $ for our map god Gunite!..

Perhaps, we could start a separate posting so that we could start collecting donations for Gunite.

MD

You can donate him at his website www.gnuite.com, using 'donations' button.

murphy 2007-10-03 18:40

Re: Plans for Maemo Mapper v2.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by iammarkus (Post 79555)
...can you confirm the map rotation is part of this release????
Thanks
MD

Yes, the rotation is in, as said here.

deeteroderdas 2007-10-03 19:17

Re: Plans for Maemo Mapper v2.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Green_Star (Post 79560)
You can donate him at his website www.gnuite.com, using 'donations' button.

I have never been able to bring up his web site.

gnuite 2007-10-04 02:56

Re: Plans for Maemo Mapper v2.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by deeteroderdas (Post 79567)
I have never been able to bring up his web site.

Probably your firewall doesn't allow incoming or outgoing connections to port 8080. My ISP doesn't allow hosting websites on port 80, so I have to use port 8080 (another typically-allowed port for HTTP).

Green_Star 2007-10-04 14:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gnuite (Post 79644)
Probably your firewall doesn't allow incoming or outgoing connections to port 8080. My ISP doesn't allow hosting websites on port 80, so I have to use port 8080 (another typically-allowed port for HTTP).

Yup, that could be true, because I never got gnuite.com loaded at my workplace, but no problems from my home.

scbauer 2007-10-04 20:29

Re: Plans for Maemo Mapper v2.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by iammarkus (Post 79555)
I know its beta... and for sure there will be bugs.. So I take it there has been a limted beta release? If so, can you confirm the map rotation is part of this release????

Thanks
MD

iammarkus, if you read back a few pages, you can see gnuite's quote that says:

Quote:

Originally Posted by gnuite (Post 77733)
...Map rotation works, but it's not the fastest thing in the world. There are actually no GTK library calls to rotate an image by an arbitrary angle, so I had to do all the math by hand (matrices, yay). The rotated OpenStreetMap PNGs are actually surprisingly readable, but you will have a harder time reading them, especially if they are upside down. :) I did manage to keep memory usage low, but the consequence is that any change in the viewpoint takes up to 0.25 seconds or so to redraw (not as fast as v1.x). And yes, auto-rotate is implemented so that--when Auto-Center is enabled--Maemo Mapper will automatically rotate the viewpoint to follow your heading. You can also rotate the viewpoint manually with the directional buttons. You can still choose to map the directional buttons to panning, but you may not need to, because...

I've added drag-to-pan functionality, so when you tap-and-drag the stylus on the map, the map moves with your stylus. It actually looks pretty slick. The old "single-tap to center on a location" mechanism is still in place. I also added "tap on a waypoint to see the description."

And then there's the POI Search stuff that I mentioned in this thread. Check out the thread for details.

-Scott

insert_nick 2007-10-04 20:52

Re: Plans for Maemo Mapper v2.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gnuite (Post 79644)
My ISP doesn't allow hosting websites on port 80, so I have to use port 8080

What about changig ISP? This would be useful also for a wider access to your gpx routing direction service. A related question: is your gpx directions server-side app available under some license? It's hurting to find out it's anavailable right when it's needed. Even an obfuscated one would be nice, it could sit on our servers and we shouldn't rely on your resources. Or maybe it contains parts you can't distibute, so no way we can have it?

scbauer 2007-10-04 21:05

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Yea, gnuite I've been meaning to ask the same question... would you be able to distribute a copy of your script/app that does the gpx directinos? I believe I read somewhere that you didn't distribute it because the address was constantly changing (or maybe it was the format of the XML that you must parse). Either way, it would be nice if you had a version of your script/app that was available. That way, I could download the script and run it on my own server. Then, maybe once per week, I could just have a script that went out and copied your most recent version to my server... then I would always be up-to-date with any changes you had made and it wouldn't put too much traffic on your server.

-Scott

ffarber 2007-10-21 19:25

Re: Plans for Maemo Mapper v2.0
 
I have not read all the posts in this thread so I apologize if this has been covered already.

I would like it to be more robust to leaving the range of the gps receiver. I use it on my motorcycle with a bluetooth gps receiver and it works great. That is unless I walk away from the bike which has the gps receiver and the tablet in my pocket. In this case, Maeom Mapper crashes and loses all my tracking data.

Thanks,
Fred

murphy 2007-10-21 19:36

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The "out of range" problem/crash is gone in the beta, Mapper politely ask "GPS Error, Retry?".
Also, the track seems to be auto-recorded approximately every 30(?) seconds so you lose only a few of it when there's a problem.

luca 2007-10-22 16:38

Re: Plans for Maemo Mapper v2.0
 
I apologize if it has been asked before (I read the whole thread but it's been a while ago, so I don't remember edit: I re-read it now and nobody suggested this), but would it be possible to get driving direction from viamichelin in alternative to google? In this part of the world google isn't really accurate (I did a test drive yesterday and google told me the wrong exit number, then it told me to go in a one way street in the prohibited direction, luckily it was just a test and I already knew my way around). OTOH viamichelin has never failed me and has more knobs to adjust your route.
Another thing: would it be possible to get directions in another language, or ftlite can only synthetize english?

maxilogan 2007-10-22 22:16

Re: Plans for Maemo Mapper v2.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by luca (Post 85678)
Another thing: would it be possible to get directions in another language, or ftlite can only synthetize english?

you can set MM so that the instruction will be downloaded in spanish, just add a "&tld=es" to the repository url, if I remember correctly. But flite, as of now, will read/pronounce them as they would read in english. I can imagine how "buscar la autopista" would be read ;) I have my instruction in italian and it is funny.. :rolleyes:

Nik1 2007-10-23 00:33

Re: Plans for Maemo Mapper v2.0
 
There should be a feature that lets you mark down locations that are monitered my police for speed. In conjunction with marking there should be vocal warnings or beeps 300 or so meters away. I always have my n800 in my car runnng maemo mapper and I find myself getting tickets in the same old places. What you guys think?

barry99705 2007-10-23 05:50

Re: Plans for Maemo Mapper v2.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nik1 (Post 85875)
There should be a feature that lets you mark down locations that are monitered my police for speed. In conjunction with marking there should be vocal warnings or beeps 300 or so meters away. I always have my n800 in my car runnng maemo mapper and I find myself getting tickets in the same old places. What you guys think?

Slow down? First thing that popped into mind. ;)

luca 2007-10-23 11:00

Re: Plans for Maemo Mapper v2.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by maxilogan (Post 85836)
But flite, as of now, will read/pronounce them as they would read in english.

Mmmh, no wonder google found nothing about ftlite, it's flite thank you.
So, flite in principle is festival light, so, with the appropriately converted files, it should work with other languages. It seems the problem is that they're not easy to convert :( so the only available voice is english.

maxilogan 2007-10-23 14:48

Re: Plans for Maemo Mapper v2.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by luca (Post 86013)
with the appropriately converted files, it should work with other languages. It seems the problem is that they're not easy to convert :( so the only available voice is english.

Basically yes, there's no other way at the moment.. :(

gnuite 2007-10-23 17:28

Re: Plans for Maemo Mapper v2.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nik1 (Post 85875)
There should be a feature that lets you mark down locations that are monitered my police for speed. In conjunction with marking there should be vocal warnings or beeps 300 or so meters away. I always have my n800 in my car runnng maemo mapper and I find myself getting tickets in the same old places. What you guys think?

I think you should slow down. :)

Seriously, though, I've considered adding notification when approaching POI locations, but I haven't gotten around to implementing it. The only use cases I can think of are for speed cameras and maybe for pointing out tourist locations, neither of which is particularly the goal of Maemo Mapper as an application.

unsoundman 2007-10-24 00:56

Re: Plans for Maemo Mapper v2.0
 
mr Gnuite kindly release your 2.0 version whether apha or beta, incomplete or not stable. I just cannot wait as many owner like me of n770 always like to explore re-flash again re-install and over again. This is fun for us since the system on linux but waiting for 2.0 since May it means very long and your apps was the killer application for N770. thank you BTW without mmapper n770 =gameover.

iammarkus 2007-10-24 15:43

Re: Plans for Maemo Mapper v2.0
 
I agree 100000% let us help you get this baby working... Apart from using the 770 with my Video Server, this is the one major app I would call "a must have!"

Thanks

GeneralAntilles 2007-10-24 15:56

Re: Plans for Maemo Mapper v2.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by unsoundman (Post 86266)
mr Gnuite kindly release your 2.0 version whether apha or beta, incomplete or not stable. I just cannot wait as many owner like me of n770 always like to explore re-flash again re-install and over again. This is fun for us since the system on linux but waiting for 2.0 since May it means very long and your apps was the killer application for N770. thank you BTW without mmapper n770 =gameover.

The current released version of maemo Mapper works just fine, doesn't it? Why rush the release of 2.0? Let the man finish it up and get the bugs worked out. It'll come soon enough.

iammarkus 2007-10-25 12:05

Re: Plans for Maemo Mapper v2.0
 
Gnuite, yes your current app works fantastic!! the only thing I need is the rotating maps where they are directional (I hope I described this feature correct). My comments are all in good fun, please do not feel we are ticked with you... You know techy people, we always want the next release...

Cheers

gnuite 2007-11-01 03:55

Re: Plans for Maemo Mapper v2.0
 
A little status update....

I think I'm about ready to release Maemo Mapper v2.0, probably this weekend. There may be a few bugs left to iron out. I wanted to do one last, probably-public beta, but I figure a public beta is pretty much a release, anyway, so I'll just go ahead and release it (if you guys are fine with that). I can iron out the bugs in 2.0.1, 2.0.2, etc.

One thing that is still missing is a tool to convert old-school directory-hierarchy map caches to new-school, database map caches. I don't want to hold up the release for that, though, especially since most people didn't really seem interested in that kind of a tool, anyway.

Other than that, I think v2.0 is pretty solid. The latest beta went well, and I've completed all of the tasks that I wanted to complete. It's not N810-ready yet, but I wanted to release a 770/N800 version as soon as possible, so that I can focus all my development on making v2.0 N810-compatible. I am hopeful that the initial release of v2.0 will at least be compatible with the GPSD interface in the N810, now that Maemo Mapper has GPSD support. But we'll see - I don't yet have an N810 with which to test.

BarneyC 2007-11-01 05:22

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you truly are a wonderful person

the new mapping sw in os2008 is useless for us here in nz so go go maemo mapper - prob in my top 3 used apps

fpp 2007-11-01 10:12

Re: Plans for Maemo Mapper v2.0
 
Great news gnuite ! And thanks for the continued 770 support... Hope you receive your N810 soon :-)

bac522 2007-11-01 11:45

Re: Plans for Maemo Mapper v2.0
 
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Originally Posted by fpp (Post 89297)
Great news gnuite ! And thanks for the continued 700 support... Hope you receive your N810 soon :-)

Second that!

sping 2007-11-01 13:09

Re: Plans for Maemo Mapper v2.0
 
Excellent news - many thanks in advance. I'd say you should call it a beta, or release candidate, if it's still lightly tested.

Some people will stumble upon it and expect it to be flawless... It'll warn them. The rest of us will try it whatever you call it...


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