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chok 2010-12-26 06:24

Re: PR1.3 - OTA install?
 
hi, when i do update it updates, when i do upgrade it says libsdl-mixer1.2 has been held back and it needs to be upgraded and deosnt give an option, sorry about this and thanks for helping

n900i 2010-12-26 07:18

Re: PR1.3 - OTA install?
 
in settings menu> about peroduct, showing <unknown> instead of version name. any suggestions?

Wikiwide 2010-12-26 07:27

Re: PR1.3 - OTA install?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by chok (Post 904404)
hi, when i do update it updates, when i do upgrade it says libsdl-mixer1.2 has been held back and it needs to be upgraded and deosnt give an option, sorry about this and thanks for helping

It's normal that it has been held back, I have about six packages held back.

Wikiwide 2010-12-26 07:27

Re: PR1.3 - OTA install?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by n900i (Post 904418)
in settings menu> about peroduct, showing <unknown> instead of version name. any suggestions?

Try in X Terminal

apt-get install mp-fremantle-generic-pr

env

chok 2010-12-29 00:25

Re: PR1.3 - OTA install?
 
hey, thanks for your help as now it shows the new firmware, when i do update in terminal this shows up att the end?
W: GPG error: http://moff.mozilla.com fremantle Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 667387BFFF445C24
W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://repository.maemo.org fremantle-1.3/free Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/repository.maemo.org_extras_dists_fremantle-1.3_free_binary-armel_Packages)
W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://repository.maemo.org fremantle-1.3/non-free Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/repository.maemo.org_extras_dists_fremantle-1.3_non-free_binary-armel_Packages)
W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems

Wikiwide 2010-12-29 00:37

Re: PR1.3 - OTA install?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by chok (Post 906381)
hey, thanks for your help as now it shows the new firmware, when i do update in terminal this shows up att the end?
W: GPG error: http://moff.mozilla.com fremantle Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 667387BFFF445C24
W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://repository.maemo.org fremantle-1.3/free Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/repository.maemo.org_extras_dists_fremantle-1.3_free_binary-armel_Packages)
W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://repository.maemo.org fremantle-1.3/non-free Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/repository.maemo.org_extras_dists_fremantle-1.3_non-free_binary-armel_Packages)
W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems

NO_PUBKEY is Mozilla's problem.

And what's inside your /etc/apt/sources.list?

chok 2010-12-29 01:09

Re: PR1.3 - OTA install?
 
if your on about the file sources.list in the apt folder, i dont know lol sorry i couldnt get it to open, and if your on about the folder sources.list.d theres a file in there, hildon-application-manager.list, i dont know how to view them?

Wikiwide 2010-12-29 01:12

Re: PR1.3 - OTA install?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by chok (Post 906401)
if you are on about the file sources.list in the apt folder, i don't know lol sorry i couldn't get it to open, and if your on about the folder sources.list.d there is a file in there, hildon-application-manager.list, i don't know how to view them?

cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/hildon-application-manager.list

Probably as root.

chok 2010-12-29 01:28

Re: PR1.3 - OTA install?
 
deb https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/apps/ ./
deb https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/mr0 ./
deb https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle1.2/ovi/ ./
deb http://repository.maemo.org/extras/ fremantle-1.3 free non-free
deb http://repository.maemo.org/extras-devel fremantle free non-free
deb http://www.joikushop.com/joikuspot_maemo/ /
deb http://repository.maemo.org/extras/ fremantle-1.3 free non-free
deb http://b-man.xceleo.org/repo/maemo-nintendo-emulators/ fremantle main
deb http://moff.mozilla.com/latest-beta/maemo/multi/ fremantle release

Wikiwide 2010-12-29 01:54

Re: PR1.3 - OTA install?
 

You see two identical lines:
deb http://repository.maemo.org/extras/ fremantle-1.3 free non-free

Delete one of the lines.

Use either vi (if you are comfortable with command line) or leafpad (if you prefer Graphical User Interface) for this.

You will have to edit this file as root, I think.

Make a backup of the file in case of misprint while editing.

chok 2010-12-29 02:23

Re: PR1.3 - OTA install?
 
thanks it worked

retsaw 2010-12-29 02:26

Re: PR1.3 - OTA install?
 
This file is rebuilt by the App Manager from /etc/hildon-application-manager/catalogues, so it doesn't really matter if you mess it up, it does also mean the next time you make any changes to the catalogues in the App Manager it will rewrite /etc/apt/sources.list.d/hildon-application-manager.list and you'll lose any changes you make. If this file is messed up, rather than editing it yourself it is probably better to check what it says in Application Catalogues in the App Man, if something is wrong fix it, if it looks okay then make a minor change, maybe disable one of the catalogues and then it will rewrite than file.

chok 2010-12-31 23:41

Re: PR1.3 - OTA install?
 
ok not sure what the above means, but now its doing the same thing, i think it has been rewritten as duplicate, but a problem i have now is whenever try to install from appman it says theres not enough memory but there is cus i can install through xterminal so that is ok but how do i get it to install from ovi, without using the appman?

Wikiwide 2011-01-01 00:20

Re: PR1.3 - OTA install?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by chok (Post 908689)
ok not sure what the above means, but now its doing the same thing, i think it has been rewritten as duplicate, but a problem i have now is whenever try to install from appman it says theres not enough memory but there is cus i can install through xterminal so that is ok but how do i get it to install from ovi, without using the appman?

Installing from ovi without appman:
apt-get install aptitude (to install command-line analogue of appman)
aptitude install panorama (example of usage)

Also, to resolve the duplicate problem, try
apt-get update

Also read
http://wiki.maemo.org/Free_up_rootfs_space

EDIT: What's inside
/etc/hildon-application-manager/catalogues
?

avim 2011-01-01 00:46

Re: PR1.3 - OTA install?
 
Is it possible to reflash through OTA?

Wikiwide 2011-01-01 02:39

Re: PR1.3 - OTA install?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by avim (Post 908732)
Is it possible to reflash through OTA?

Of course no.

The purpose of Over-The-Air is to allow you to update (the whole operating system) while continuing whatever you do.

The purpose of re-flash is to clean everything which might be wrong, and the device cannot be used at all while re-flashing.

chok 2011-01-01 02:56

Re: PR1.3 - OTA install?
 
<catalogues>
<catalogue>
<file>variant-catalogues</file>
<id>nokia-certified</id>
</catalogue>
<catalogue>
<file>variant-catalogues</file>
<id>nokia-system</id>
</catalogue>
<catalogue>
<file>variant-catalogues</file>
<id>ovi</id>
</catalogue>
<catalogue>
<file>variant-catalogues</file>
<id>maemo-extras</id>
</catalogue>
<catalogue>
<uri>http://repository.maemo.org/extras-devel</uri>
<dist>fremantle</dist>
<components>free non-free</components>
<name>Extras-devel</name>
</catalogue>
<catalogue>
<name>Joikusoft Products</name>
<uri>http://www.joikushop.com/joikuspot_maemo/</uri>
<dist>/</dist>
<components/>
</catalogue>
<catalogue>
<uri>http://repository.maemo.org/extras/</uri>
<components>free non-free</components>
<name>Maemo Extras</name>
</catalogue>
<catalogue>
<uri>http://b-man.xceleo.org/repo/maemo-nintendo-emulators/</uri>
<dist>fremantle</dist>
<components>main</components>
<name>Maemo nintendo emulators</name>
</catalogue>
<catalogue>
<name>Mozilla multi Beta Catalog</name>
<uri>http://moff.mozilla.com/latest-beta/maemo/multi/</uri>
<dist>fremantle</dist>
<components>release</components>
</catalogue>
<catalogue>
<name>Maemo Extras-Testing</name>
<uri>http://repository.maemo.org/extras-testing/</uri>
<dist>fremantle</dist>
<components>free non-free</components>
</catalogue>
</catalogues>

Wikiwide 2011-01-01 02:59

Re: PR1.3 - OTA install?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by chok (Post 908777)
<catalogues>
<catalogue>
<file>variant-catalogues</file>
<id>nokia-certified</id>
</catalogue>
<catalogue>
<file>variant-catalogues</file>
<id>nokia-system</id>
</catalogue>
<catalogue>
<file>variant-catalogues</file>
<id>ovi</id>
</catalogue>
<catalogue>
<file>variant-catalogues</file>
<id>maemo-extras</id>
</catalogue>
<catalogue>
<uri>http://repository.maemo.org/extras-devel</uri>
<dist>fremantle</dist>
<components>free non-free</components>
<name>Extras-devel</name>
</catalogue>
<catalogue>
<name>Joikusoft Products</name>
<uri>http://www.joikushop.com/joikuspot_maemo/</uri>
<dist>/</dist>
<components/>
</catalogue>
<catalogue>
<uri>http://repository.maemo.org/extras/</uri>
<components>free non-free</components>
<name>Maemo Extras</name>
</catalogue>
<catalogue>
<uri>http://b-man.xceleo.org/repo/maemo-nintendo-emulators/</uri>
<dist>fremantle</dist>
<components>main</components>
<name>Maemo nintendo emulators</name>
</catalogue>
<catalogue>
<name>Mozilla multi Beta Catalog</name>
<uri>http://moff.mozilla.com/latest-beta/maemo/multi/</uri>
<dist>fremantle</dist>
<components>release</components>
</catalogue>
<catalogue>
<name>Maemo Extras-Testing</name>
<uri>http://repository.maemo.org/extras-testing/</uri>
<dist>fremantle</dist>
<components>free non-free</components>
</catalogue>
</catalogues>

I don't know...
Disable extras-testing?

avim 2011-01-01 03:04

Re: PR1.3 - OTA install?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wikiwide (Post 908772)
Of course no.

The purpose of Over-The-Air is to allow you to update (the whole operating system) while continuing whatever you do.

The purpose of re-flash is to clean everything which might be wrong, and the device cannot be used at all while re-flashing.

Sorry of being a noob, In the case I want to really re-flash (i.e. clean everything) can I sill do the OTA re-flash?

chok 2011-01-01 03:13

Re: PR1.3 - OTA install?
 
i just added extras testing before i checked that file, it was showing the error even before that, and i just did update again and it deosnt show the error, lol, i think its playing games with me, thanks anyway

chok 2011-01-01 03:22

Re: PR1.3 - OTA install?
 
the aptitude mweethod worked and my phone isnt letting me delete these grammar mistakes thats why im haveing to write this lol, biut i dont understand why it nstalls through xterm but not through appman

Wikiwide 2011-01-01 03:33

Re: PR1.3 - OTA install?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by avim (Post 908780)
Sorry of being a noob, In the case I want to really re-flash (i.e. clean everything) can I sill do the OTA re-flash?

Read here:
http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_firmware

I'm sort of newbie, too.

Wikiwide 2011-01-01 03:38

Re: PR1.3 - OTA install?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by chok (Post 908785)
the aptitude mweethod worked and my phone isnt letting me delete these grammar mistakes that's why i'm having to write this lol, but i don't understand why it installs through xterm but not through appman

I don't know why Application Manager doesn't work, exactly.
apt-get is crippled in order not to install anything from Ovi; probably it's a way to make people log into Ovi instead of directly downloading.

When you use virtual keyboard, use (stylus) tapping to move cursor to another place, since it has no arrows. Turn on auto-complete and tap the word when you see it guessed auto-complete correctly. You can also half-open hardware keyboard to use arrows (-> arrow auto-completes, too, if I remember correctly).


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