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hibikirein 2010-10-29 03:44

n8 less expensive than n900 when it 1st came out
 
I am wondering why n8 sell here in the ph only 25k but when n900 1st came out almost 30k or more than ive been looking the specs of n8 but i think not much difference compare to n900 only the 12mp camera of n8 makes it better but i dont know the performance since my phone is n900

people out there which will you prefer with the 2?

squee666 2010-10-29 03:57

Re: n8 less expensive than n900 when it 1st came out
 
n900 is classes as an internet tablet. screen is 840x480
n8 is classes as a smartphone screen is 640x360

seeing how n900 has 32gb, built in FM transmitter,IR etc this is why

n8 is only 16gb and new symbian plus camera. it doesnt have keyboard either

also n8 has roughly same processing power.

my dad just got n8 hes still figuring it out but symbian isnt the best and maemo is a winner though it needs tweaks.

over here still at carephone warehouse n900 phone contract is still £5 more tha n8 QQ

ossipena 2010-10-29 04:47

Re: n8 less expensive than n900 when it 1st came out
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hibikirein (Post 856116)
I am wondering why n8 sell here in the ph only 25k but when n900 1st came out almost 30k or more than ive been looking the specs of n8 but i think not much difference compare to n900 only the 12mp camera of n8 makes it better but i dont know the performance since my phone is n900

people out there which will you prefer with the 2?

I paid 660eur from N900, I could get N8 with 460eur.

so what?

ericsson 2010-10-29 05:00

Re: n8 less expensive than n900 when it 1st came out
 
The N8 is not the top, or "flagship" as some call it. The E7 is more expensive, although probably not "better". The N9 will be about the same range as the E7, but the N9 is a mobile computer with high specs, the E7 a sleek smartphone.

The N8 is more like the N82, a camera phone.

ysss 2010-10-29 06:34

Re: n8 less expensive than n900 when it 1st came out
 
Nokia has their own private dictionary. They have their own understanding of the common terms: 'mobile phone', 'smartphone', 'mobile computer' and 'flagship'.

Sometimes they're a bit confused with the term 'good' and 'user friendly' too ;)

ossipena 2010-10-29 06:42

Re: n8 less expensive than n900 when it 1st came out
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ysss (Post 856168)
Nokia has their own private dictionary. They have their own understanding of the common terms: 'mobile phone', 'smartphone', 'mobile computer' and 'flagship'.

imo nokias dictionary is pretty logical, but lack of standardisation about what really is smarphone etc makes the whole stuff confusing. ones featurephone is ones smartphone etc...

Dave999 2010-10-29 06:47

Re: n8 less expensive than n900 when it 1st came out
 
n900 is for men. n8 for kids. thats why ;)

lma 2010-10-29 07:44

Re: n8 less expensive than n900 when it 1st came out
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by squee666 (Post 856126)
n900 is classes as an internet tablet

Nope, the "Internet tablet" branding officially died with the N8x0s.

Quote:

screen is 840x480
800x480.

Quote:

also n8 has roughly same processing power.
Similar clocks, but one generation behind.

jessi3k3 2010-10-29 07:54

Re: n8 less expensive than n900 when it 1st came out
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by squee666 (Post 856126)
also n8 has roughly same processing power.

I'd give the edge to the N8. Not only is the chipset the latest (faster than what we have even at the same clock speed) but the graphics processor is theoretically 2 times better than what the N900 has.

PowerVR SGX 530 (N900): 14 M triangles/sec
Broadcom BCM2727 (Nokia N8) 32 M triangles/sec

lma 2010-10-29 08:06

Re: n8 less expensive than n900 when it 1st came out
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jessi3k3 (Post 856213)
I'd give the edge to the N8. Not only is the chipset the latest (faster than what we have even at the same clock speed)

What chip is that? All I can find is "ARM11", which is ARMv6 architecture and should be faster than the N900's OMAP 3 (Cortex A8, ie ARMv7).

benny1967 2010-10-29 08:09

Re: n8 less expensive than n900 when it 1st came out
 
N8 is a mass market device, the N900 wasn't. If you plan to sell more devices, you can make them cheaper.

N8 runs Symbian, which is less ressource-hungry than Maemo. They can safely use "last years technology" for many parts and still get a good performance. The N900 needed to be up to date when it was introduced.

plaban 2010-10-29 08:20

Re: n8 less expensive than n900 when it 1st came out
 
Which is better ARM 11 680 mhz or N900's ARM Cortex A 8 600 mhz?

ysss 2010-10-29 08:22

Re: n8 less expensive than n900 when it 1st came out
 
most definitely Cortex A8. It's a significant upgrade from the ARM11s.

nathaneous 2010-10-29 08:24

Re: n8 less expensive than n900 when it 1st came out
 
i just got the n8 yesterday and swappin it for the iphone4 as my second phone. after having the n900 for over a year i have to say that playin around with a symbian device is painful and disappointing. i couldnt even look past the poor display on the n8 without feelin sick. the only positives i found was the ovi store ui which i felt was a huge improvement, and the graphics processor. nothin touches the n900 in my opinion. the iphone will probably be sold or jailbroken at some point lol

plaban 2010-10-29 08:24

Re: n8 less expensive than n900 when it 1st came out
 
If we combine both Processor + GPU of N8 and N900 ,which will provide better all round performance?

jessi3k3 2010-10-29 08:28

Re: n8 less expensive than n900 when it 1st came out
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lma (Post 856224)
What chip is that? All I can find is "ARM11", which is ARMv6 architecture and should be faster than the N900's OMAP 3 (Cortex A8, ie ARMv7).

I was talking about the chipset as a whole. It's a newer developed chipset compared to the OMAP 3. Whether or not the cpu is faster or not (arm11 vs A8) is up in the air, but if the N8 does have an arm11 (older revision) then the N900 might win in that aspect only.

mesz 2010-10-29 09:11

Re: n8 less expensive than n900 when it 1st came out
 
it's because aN 8 is less then aN 900,.. then remove the ”aN” it's obvious,.. isn't it? loool

!!Nokia N900!! 2010-10-29 09:30

Re: n8 less expensive than n900 when it 1st came out
 
i have Qs hope to get an answer plz:

-Why Nokia produced N900 if they cant supported 100%?
-whats the use of Maemo if nokia not making major up-dates in their firmwares?
- Why many announcement & applications are not their ( Ovi & Maemo Select ) while other competitors planned for their handsets before releasing them.

<<< Why N900 is there????>>>

ericsson 2010-10-29 09:44

Re: n8 less expensive than n900 when it 1st came out
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lma (Post 856224)
What chip is that? All I can find is "ARM11", which is ARMv6 architecture and should be faster than the N900's OMAP 3 (Cortex A8, ie ARMv7).

The Broadcom BCM2727 is the fastest GPU yet. Not only 2D/3D, but photo and video as well. The N8 has one ARM11 and one BCM2727

mesz 2010-10-29 10:39

Re: n8 less expensive than n900 when it 1st came out
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by !!Nokia N900!! (Post 856314)
i have Qs hope to get an answer plz:

-Why Nokia produced N900 if they cant supported 100%?
-whats the use of Maemo if nokia not making major up-dates in their firmwares?
- Why many announcement & applications are not their ( Ovi & Maemo Select ) while other competitors planned for their handsets before releasing them.

<<< Why N900 is there????>>>

why bother asking these questions here,.. ask nokia directly then!
this gone OT btw,.. :cool:

Duffer 2010-10-29 10:54

Re: n8 less expensive than n900 when it 1st came out
 
> <<< Why N900 is there????>>>

It was/is a tech demo. I thought we all knew that?

kevinp93 2010-10-29 11:10

Re: n8 less expensive than n900 when it 1st came out
 
Well here is my reasoning:

The N900 was made in Korea and the N8 is made in Finland.

My geographical skills tell me that Korea is further away than Finland (I am from the UK), so therefore the transport costs would make the N900 more expensive. :)

But the only problem is that this theory would only be valid for European, African and possibly American market. :(

It didn't make any difference to me as both my N8 and N900 are on contract...

lemon_grass 2010-10-29 12:47

Re: n8 less expensive than n900 when it 1st came out
 
More to it than comparing one APE to another APE...
Maybe someone will rip open the N8 to find something missing..

!!Nokia N900!! 2010-10-29 12:53

Re: n8 less expensive than n900 when it 1st came out
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Duffer (Post 856401)
> <<< Why N900 is there????>>>

It was/is a tech demo. I thought we all knew that?

N900 it treated as "Guinea pig"
An experimental device...nothing more

Viny 2010-10-29 13:03

Re: n8 less expensive than n900 when it 1st came out
 
I just bought an N8 as a gift for my freind for his bday who lives in Sri-Lanka, hope it wont be a huge disapointment, he wont be using all the features, but the flashy phone will look nice hopefully

ossipena 2010-10-29 13:14

Re: n8 less expensive than n900 when it 1st came out
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by !!Nokia N900!! (Post 856314)
i have Qs hope to get an answer plz:

-Why Nokia produced N900 if they cant supported 100%?
-whats the use of Maemo if nokia not making major up-dates in their firmwares?
- Why many announcement & applications are not their ( Ovi & Maemo Select ) while other competitors planned for their handsets before releasing them.

<<< Why N900 is there????>>>

step 4/5 explains everything.

ossipena 2010-10-29 13:17

Re: n8 less expensive than n900 when it 1st came out
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kevinp93 (Post 856414)
Well here is my reasoning:

The N900 was made in Korea and the N8 is made in Finland.

My geographical skills tell me that Korea is further away than Finland (I am from the UK), so therefore the transport costs would make the N900 more expensive. :)

But the only problem is that this theory would only be valid for European, African and possibly American market. :(

It didn't make any difference to me as both my N8 and N900 are on contract...

with nokias volumes and logistics chain that just works, difference between salo and korea is so small that bigger salaries in salo would mean N8 costs more....

hibikirein 2010-11-01 12:38

Re: n8 less expensive than n900 when it 1st came out
 
n900 more better than n8!

tissot 2010-11-01 12:53

Re: n8 less expensive than n900 when it 1st came out
 
N900 was only made in a smaller Korean factory. N8 is made in Finland and China that's the normal high end combo for Nokia's high end phones.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ossipena (Post 856581)
with nokias volumes and logistics chain that just works, difference between salo and korea is so small that bigger salaries in salo would mean N8 costs more....

Finland made phones have sometimes had missing accessory compared to example the China made models. This is not always the case, but with N8 this could be about the touch pen.

I can't see myself buying N8 while it got couple of very nice features and those are something i'm looking from my next phone(HDMI out and great camera), but N8 is still great buy imo. N8 will get steady stream of updates as S^3 evolves to S^4(while the names wont be used anymore). N8 should get the new browser and portrait qwerty this year already as other S^3 phones.

patlak 2010-11-01 13:08

Re: n8 less expensive than n900 when it 1st came out
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kevinp93 (Post 856414)
Well here is my reasoning:

The N900 was made in Korea and the N8 is made in Finland.

My geographical skills tell me that Korea is further away than Finland (I am from the UK), so therefore the transport costs would make the N900 more expensive. :)

But the only problem is that this theory would only be valid for European, African and possibly American market. :(

It didn't make any difference to me as both my N8 and N900 are on contract...

It does make a difference, both your phones end up much more expensive in the end.

hibikirein 2010-11-02 11:03

Re: n8 less expensive than n900 when it 1st came out
 
i love my n900 dats all!! more better than n8

atilla 2010-11-02 11:17

Re: n8 less expensive than n900 when it 1st came out
 
i just hope that the n9 will not cost more then 700 euros.....

Radicalz38 2010-11-02 16:14

Re: n8 less expensive than n900 when it 1st came out
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kevinp93 (Post 856414)
Well here is my reasoning:

The N900 was made in Korea and the N8 is made in Finland.

My geographical skills tell me that Korea is further away than Finland (I am from the UK), so therefore the transport costs would make the N900 more expensive. :)

But the only problem is that this theory would only be valid for European, African and possibly American market. :(

It didn't make any difference to me as both my N8 and N900 are on contract...

Read the OP's thread again :p
He is from Philippines...
Korea is closer to the Philippines compared to Finland.
Korea = Asia | Philippines = Asia
Korea = SouthEast Asia | Philippines = SouthEast Asia

So I don't se how transportation cost makes the n900 more expensive than the n8 lol! :D

ysss 2010-11-02 16:20

Re: n8 less expensive than n900 when it 1st came out
 
Shipping fees, insurance, custom...
time and risk...

They all add up to something.

SubCore 2010-11-02 16:25

Re: n8 less expensive than n900 when it 1st came out
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Radicalz38 (Post 861116)
Korea = Asia | Philippines = Asia
Korea = SouthEast Asia | Philippines = SouthEast Asia

korea is not in south east asia (more like north east asia).

sry for nitpicking ;)

Radicalz38 2010-11-02 16:43

Re: n8 less expensive than n900 when it 1st came out
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SubCore (Post 861121)
korea is not in south east asia (more like north east asia).

sry for nitpicking ;)

Erm sort of yes but sort of no also... :p South Korea was part of the ASEAN countries so I guess some part of korea is in southeast. Well all hail breaks loose if nokia would put up a factory on north korea. :rolleyes:

SubCore 2010-11-02 16:57

Re: n8 less expensive than n900 when it 1st came out
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Radicalz38 (Post 861136)
Erm sort of yes but sort of no also... :p South Korea was part of the ASEAN countries so I guess some part of korea is in southeast.

no.
no part of korea was ever a member :)
besides, the ASEAN is just an organization, they can make their own rules who may join and who may not (they are trying to convince japan and south korea to join).

but geographically, korea is not part of south east asia.


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