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hasnt anyone solved the problem of multiboot yet?

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Another feedback, I was able to connect memory card reader (Apacer) with 4 slots, where I inserted 3 memory cards at the same time. H-e-n couldn't mount them, but I do it through x-terminal. Only one card was able to be mounted at the time. I used this commands:

Awesome guys!

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I only made the UI and packaged it nicely with a kernel mate (as well as testing with the team), I don't deserve a donation for hostmode, feel free to ask Paul though :)

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hey Mo which based kernel is used for host mode ? default one ? or titans or whatever other kernel ?

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I don't know how to get logs, but I discovered without that what is causing reboots. It happens when I load battery module. :D
I'm using Queen BeeCon widget and I load kernel profile and battery module at the same time. I have this line in widget:

MohammadAG, I get a clue about it, because you mention that reboot can happen if battery is low.

Is it possible to have hostmode without loosing temperature (battery) monitoring? :confused:

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*yawn* (sorry)
That's an age old known issue - bq27x00_battery.ko breaks bme, so dsme on finding bme dead meat decides to reboot.
Anyway thanks for reporting.
Maybe you want to vote for https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9314, or hope for jrbme which will come in a few days with a first pre-alpha for hostmode (mentioned in a prev post)

[edit] oops, I missed your questions. For now there's nothing monitoring battery and even less temperature during hostmode. Temperature shouldn't usually become a big issue though (no charging). Jrbme has battery voltage monitoring and over-temperature shutdown on its requirement specs list. Not sure how far we'll get for temperature without any little hint from Nokia though.
cheers
jOERG

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guys is this the one i need ??

http://www.allekabels.nl/USB-Adapter...B-ADAPTER.html

"female to micro usb B "

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looks nifty, looks good. Please get one for me as well ;-D

DO NOT buy this one: http://www.allekabels.nl/USB-Adapter...A-ADAPTER.html !
it's a ``correct'' one, like the OTG adapter for N8. They don't fit to N900.

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kernel-power specifies Provides: kernel-feature-usbhost
I suggest to add this to your hostmode kernel and let hostmode-gui depend on it this feature.

I'll integrate Paul's patch in the next upload.

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yeh, its better then female to female dont you think ?
they have 1236 pieces. But they only deliver in the netherlands and belgium.

so i can buy for you 2 but how can i send it 2 you xd

altough;
they say, E-mail us for shipping to foreign countries. You can email us at this adress for more information. Please not that we can not do intracommunity deliveries for new customers anymore. You will have to pay VAT with our orders.

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Very nice. Thanks a lot! Looks like a proper solution for pkg installation time.
For runtime, and to tell apart different versions of hostmode API, the hostmode-version= patch is still recommended. Mohammad's GUI will test for that (at least I hope I talked him into doing so :-D)

cheers
jOERG

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Also see this:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Micro-USB-Host-O...item3a6029aec2

I think it should exert less stress on the flakey USB port.

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pfff, who needs those adapters from the store. When you can get this beauty. </sarcasm>
I had an old motherboard lying around, so I just un-soldered the double-connector and joined parallel connections.

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I picked up this one a while ago, hoping this project would be fruitful some time. :) I can tell you with great certainty that it works, as I've used it already to connect up a thumb drive. It doesn't stress the connector much with light-weight things like thumb drives. Not bad for under $2 shipped (though it will take a couple weeks, unless you happen to live in/near China. :) )

Great job on this to everyone that's worked on this, both directly and indirectly! This was in the top 5 for things I really wanted the N900 to do, and the last one to show up. But it was so worth the wait!

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Question to the creators of this mod: Is it possible to turn on host-mode, but without 5V, so, for example, to be able to inject power from wallcharger?

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Hello, I have a question, I have Titan's version 44 power kernel installed. How would I go about getting the hostmode-gui running? When I try to install it from terminal, it has other custom kernel and kernel-flasher dependencies. Would this mess up my already installed Titan's kernel?

Thanks

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It would. You'll need to wait till they remove the dependency (or get the hostmode-gui.deb on its own, which he posted a few pages back).

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Please see http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=866309&postcount=9 the postscriptum

I have the annoying habit to frequently edit forum posts to add new facts and details, rather than quoting the whole original post starting the topic, just to add a few words. So an occasional re-read of the whole thread might be worth it. This also holds true for drive-by askers who think it's easier to push out their question rather than going through the whole thread to see if it's maybe got answered previously. Those random duplicate questions just add to the length of the thread for nothing, thus making it even more annoying for others to read up from beginning.

/j

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I've had some mild success with Y cables for external power, but the thought of leakage into the N900 while at 5V doesn't sound like it'll end well. Just how easily could we burn out the chip on the N900 driving in current while VBUS is at 5V (and BME is disabled)?

I've found the phone WILL die if you still have a powered peripheral connected after turning off VBUS, which is not a pleasant sign in itself.

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hostmode is *safe* from a hw point of view. This includes applying 5V externally at any random point in time, as well as overloading or even shortcircuit of internal 5V supply aka vboost.
It's just the whole musb-core gets confused with vbus applied when it shouldn't, so we have some issues with switching speeds, entering/leaving hostmode, *not* entering peripheral mode, etc. Also, as we need to stop bme, there's not charging during hostmode for now. All this doesn't mean you could break anything - you CAN NOT, as long as you're not using overvoltaged external PSU or other obviously rogue evil crap

I said "enjoy hostmode" - I meant it like that :-) Don't worry!
/j

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There is a new fcam-drivers package, but when I do :
I have error due to the fact that i have hostmode-gui 0.2.3 installed and that it has dependencies with kernel-hostmode
kernel-hostmode-modules kernel-hosmode-flasher

so I did :
But it does nothing !
does /etc/apt/preferences have changed on PR1.3
any help ?

BR

Nerfiaux

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You can try to force-install it using dpkg.

wget http://repository.maemo.org/extras-t....7-1_armel.deb
from extras-testing or

wget http://repository.maemo.org/extras/p....6-1_armel.deb
from extras

dpkg -i <name.deb>

[Added]
But it probably are not gonna work with host-mode kernel.

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Oh I didn't really mean to sound worried. Worst come to worse I buy a new N900 (tired of the crack in my touch screen anyway :P). More so its a worrying affair when the phone simply shuts off and screen fades out.

<Just some suggestions for an FAQ type thing:>
Also, suppose I grab a powered USB host, the current GUI will NOT allow a USB mouse and a USB HDD at the same time.. yes? Due to having to choose a set speed? Will this be resolveable, your post says a 'might' in regards to speed detection, but will that mean multiple device support? also what is the probability of automatic detection? And as an end target, a simple auto-recognize like the N800 has (plug in charger -> charges, plug in usb stick -> mounts, plug in mouse -> sets up mouse) will ever be possible?

Hmm... I need to find a Y cable with mini + regular out to female regular. Then just need a 5v battery pack and anything would be possible with the one cable.

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While MohammadAG perfects his hostmode gui, the command fdisk might be useful to see the available devices to mount (at present, only /dev/sda1 gets mounted by the gui). Since fdisk is not part of any maemo5 package, I copied the easy debian one from /sbin/fdisk of the debian partition to /sbin/fdisk of the maemo rootfs. It seems to work as expected:
Seems I were wrong?? Is fdisk already part of maemo?

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How can i have host mode & nitdroid together ? PLZ help

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I tried the same command after I took root rights and I ve got the same output. I didn't copied something from easy debian or whatever like you. It seems that sfdisk is part of maemo.

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wizard-mounter
Description: A simple gui for mounting remote shared partition
like samba and nfs, and have it browsable under
the standard file manager.

maybe worth a look at? If it can't do what hostmode needs out of the box, then for sure it should be easy to mod it.


@izzehO: A hub does auto-speed-convert. You can plug everything same time to a single hub in single HS - so multi-device support is already there. Plug'nPlay though is highly questionable, as we got no proper OTG hardware to autodetect plug in of micro-A, and there's no other way than that to detect plug in of a memstick or any peripheral on that behalf.


/j

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Hi again,
I was abble to reproduse the reboot/shutdown when I close h-e-n, BUT only when I'm overclocked above 600MHz ( Tried with different frequencies alway the result is the same - shutdown or reboot when I close h-e-n)
How to reprodusce the issue:
(Have installed klogd and sysklogd before - rebooted N900)

1.Installed kernel - 2.6.28.10.power44
2.Installed QCPUFreq v. 0.4.0, from settings enable overclocking - change frequency to more than 600MHz close.
3.Check with Conky actual max frequency
4.Start h-e-n (v. last one - mount/unmout implented) :
-close h-e-n - resul reboot
-pres High Speed hostmode, VBUS boost on Enumerate - successful enumeration, VBUS noost off, close h-e-n - result shutdown.
tried 5 time always have shutdown/reboot when OC, when I'm not over 600MHz no problem with shutdown/reboot after close h-e-n

this is only report (unconfirmed - if someone willing to try and report). I usually do not do overclock and is not issue for me.

attaching my logfile in case you want to have a look.

AI also have e question ( not retailed to the writings up) - When I connect USB flash drive sometimes it gets enumerated right away, but sometimes it took a while to enumerate? Is this known issue with the beta driver or something else? Does someone else experience the same 'x' wait time until Flash drive (or device connected) get enumerated? Am I alone?
Tried with different devices it is the same with stock and power kernel.

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I tried using it in the passed for some things and had absolutely no success with it, can't recall even what it was (probably mounting my samba server). I can't work out how this helps the hostmode project?


Ah ok. I'll probably pick up a powered hub next week some time (been meaning to get one for my desktop for ages).

So there wouldn't be a simply way of "Is peripheral supplying power? No -> try enumerate"?

On another note, upset that my Microsoft Wireless Optical Desktop 2.10 doesn't appear to work with this (or the HID scripts). It appears to recognize it fine, connect it fine and register it fine, but it doesn't do anything. F lock light is toggleable (however num lock and caps lock aren't: as they are system sided I assume). Relevant log (assuming this isn't just an issue with this particular desktop.. which wouldn't surprise me given its an MS one) is below:

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joerg, remember the ID pin IS hardwired to twl4030 and it can be sensed. a piece of code ( hostmode daemon ) can be written to sense this id pin and switch automatically to host. even now n900 switch to a_idle when ID pin go ground so what must be put into the code ?
because some peripheral need external power it is possible to make a custom y cable like this

uB female ---o---------> uB male (with id grounded )
A female -----|

it is not standard compliant but who care
this cable can be used with or without external power provided from standard n900 charger
i will hardmod my n900 with uAB receptacle as soon i will get one for ( stylish ? ) CA-157.

( ot - please respond to my last PM it is @bme )

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Could anyone advise me as the whether this adapter will work.

http://www.overstock.com/Electronics/Eforcity-USB-2.0-A-to-Micro-B-Female-Male-Adaptor/4488837/product.html?cid=133635

Thanks

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Probably, though I really advise you to use an adapter and find a shorter microUSB cable, I wouldn't trust adapters like the one you posted with a USB port like the N900's (with ports falling out and all)

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hello i have and i use a nokia n900 usb cable and adapter female-female usb

i have pr 1.3 maemo and nitdroid 0.0.8 and ps3 sixaxis driver,preenv , and maemo40 installed , (kernel things)

i tried and tried and nothing , for example i use a mouse and mouse have energy but not mount , not run ,

i look http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGRE5g-aIsw but nothing

why?

steps exacts???

i only installed h-e-n app beta extras-devel repo... i forgot any step??

is neccesary other step?

thanks

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it seem i have a problem mounting my kingston flash drive it keep tell me unable to connect can any one help me

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MohammadAG: It didn't really seem like pinning the power kernel packages was the right way to get rid of aptitude complaining about the dependencies that hostmode-gui has to that hostmode kernel. I didn't try it but that's what I read from others. I know its a beta and all but it felt right to use the power kernel 44 instead. What do you think would be best, wait for a new package from you that has deps to power kernel or if you have an idea on something else I can do in the meantime (just to get rid of the aptitude dependency nag).

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Try updating to v44 of power kernel.
You may need to install the new fcam drivers afterwards.

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Guys i need your knowledge-advise here..

I had set up my N900 with Multiboot-00 Maemo omap1 kernel and 01-Power-kernel44 fixed all camera issues etc. and all seems to working perfect.

From inside Power-kernel44 i downloaded the H-e-n (USB Hostmode GUI) from application manager after restarting and booted up again normally without any issues in Power-Kernel44, i caught my AF to AF usb adapter and tried to connect to my usb stick (Sandisk SDCZ6 4gb) using the following steps:
1.High Speed Hostmode
2.Turned on 5v VBUS
3.Enumerate the Device
4.Mount it

The result i got was nothing...I can`t see my pen drive into the File Manager at all...Can someone help me on this to get it work please??!!

Thanks in advise.

PS:If i type sudo fdisk -l in the xterm ask me for a password...?!! ;-?

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i got "unable to connect, no file system detected" error, i will try changing the connectors i am using

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As I've discussed it with joerg_rw, we came to a conclusion that we could depend on either one of the kernels (dpkg supports multiple depends with a |), then just read /proc/driver/musb_hdrc and check if that has the compatible string, that way, you can use any kernel you want.

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Hello Mohammad,

as you are uploading hostmode-gui 0.2.4., could you please clarify your answer : What do we have to do ?

Wait for the packages files on the repo to be updated,
Or
keep downloanding packages one by one and do a dpkg --ignore,
Or
any other proposal of yours... ?