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Soham 2010-11-14 05:34

BusyBox - Any alternatives or upgrades?
 
well hello everyone...:) i'm new to both my new nokia n900 and ofcourse to the OS bt well sumhw i began to wonder that as we all knw that the x terminal in it is kinda wich is called "BusyBox" is of quite an older version(v1.10.2)...:eek: and nt to mention its limitation of commands... :p so i did sum googling if i can actually upgrade the BusyBox to push its limit .... so i came over this site...

http://maemo-experience.blogspot.com...-for-n900.html

please check it out and CAN ANYONE SUGGEST ME IF IT WILL B SAFE well technically :p ! has anyone done it yet ???

chemist 2010-11-15 10:53

Re: BusyBox - Any alternatives or upgrades?
 
Hi Sohma,

welcome to maemo.

I moved your post from Brainstorm to Applications and let it become it's own thread.

Please write as you speak or at least as it is readable. (There is a funny way to write things I came along lately, as long as the first and the last character of a word match, the length eg the number of characters and the type of characters are the same as the word you want to write it is getting readable. I don't care but others do.)

jedi 2010-11-15 10:54

Re: BusyBox - Any alternatives or upgrades?
 
You could just use Bash http://maemo.org/packages/view/bash/

kureyon 2010-11-15 12:57

Re: BusyBox - Any alternatives or upgrades?
 
Bash on its own doesn't really replace busybox. To replace busybox's cutdown utils with the real McCoy install coreutils-gnu (and set $PATH accordingly)

Soham 2010-11-15 18:03

Re: BusyBox - Any alternatives or upgrades?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by chemist (Post 873866)
Hi Soham,

welcome to maemo.

I moved your post from Brainstorm to Applications and let it become it's own thread.

Please write as you speak or at least as it is readable. (There is a funny way to write things I came along lately, as long as the first and the last character of a word match, the length eg the number of characters and the type of characters are the same as the word you want to write it is getting readable. I don't care but others do.)

sure ! i'll keep that in mind...:p
i was too much into complex sentences... hehe:D

Soham 2010-11-15 18:09

Re: BusyBox - Any alternatives or upgrades?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kureyon (Post 874006)
Bash on its own doesn't really replace busybox. To replace busybox's cutdown utils with the real McCoy install coreutils-gnu (and set $PATH accordingly)

well you knw..i'm kinda a noob abt dis OS as im new to it...so cud u plz explain it a bit more?? :)

geneven 2010-11-15 18:48

Re: BusyBox - Any alternatives or upgrades?
 
I don't think you should try to replace Busy Box; that's a bad project for a noob. You would actually want to have a good reason for such a project.

You really should try to use regular spelling more. Of course, if you want to minimize the number of people who read your messages and get the worst advice you can get, you have adopted a great strategy. But if you want well-informed opinion, you should try communicating clearly. I doubt that I can convince you, so that's the last suggestion I have for you. :)

kureyon 2010-11-15 19:11

Re: BusyBox - Any alternatives or upgrades?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Soham (Post 874291)
well you knw..i'm kinda a noob abt dis OS as im new to it...so cud u plz explain it a bit more?? :)

If you have to ask then you really shouldn't be doing it. If you insist on doing it then you could start here:

http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Joerg_rw/tools
with the section "proper bash and tools"

And search the forum, there are a few threads floating around.

Quote:

Originally Posted by geneven (Post 874311)
You really should try to use regular spelling more.

+1. Using "abbreviations" and misspellings and dropping vowels may be OK when you're txting but on a forum it's just sloppy and uncool.

Soham 2010-11-15 19:20

Re: BusyBox - Any alternatives or upgrades?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kureyon (Post 874327)
If you have to ask then you really shouldn't be doing it. If you insist on doing it then you could start here:

http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Joerg_rw/tools
with the section "proper bash and tools"

And search the forum, there are a few threads floating around.



+1. Using "abbreviations" and misspellings and dropping vowels may be OK when you're txting but on a forum it's just sloppy and uncool.

oops! my apologies!! i will get it right from next time onwards.. :)

Soham 2010-11-15 19:30

Re: BusyBox - Any alternatives or upgrades?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kureyon (Post 874327)
If you have to ask then you really shouldn't be doing it. If you insist on doing it then you could start here:

http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Joerg_rw/tools
with the section "proper bash and tools"

And search the forum, there are a few threads floating around.

Thanks! i will start with this one for now !! :)

RobbieThe1st 2010-11-15 22:57

Re: BusyBox - Any alternatives or upgrades?
 
I must warn you that messing around in the internals of the system -can- make your n900 not bootable - There are a number of people who ended up with a "reboot-loop'd" machine due to messing with a file or a command they didn't understand.
Also, if the only reason you are trying to upgrade is that it's an old version... Don't. You don't have to worry about any problems arising - at worst, it simply doesn't have some feature. And, even advanced users won't really have to worry about this.
Personally, I've found some stuff missing in busybox I would have liked, but I was able to wolrk around it without much trouble.

Soham 2010-11-16 16:12

Re: BusyBox - Any alternatives or upgrades?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RobbieThe1st (Post 874526)
I must warn you that messing around in the internals of the system -can- make your n900 not bootable - There are a number of people who ended up with a "reboot-loop'd" machine due to messing with a file or a command they didn't understand.
Also, if the only reason you are trying to upgrade is that it's an old version... Don't. You don't have to worry about any problems arising - at worst, it simply doesn't have some feature. And, even advanced users won't really have to worry about this.
Personally, I've found some stuff missing in busybox I would have liked, but I was able to wolrk around it without much trouble.

well thank you as u suggested:) !...so i guess i shall go on with what i have for now...:)
so first i must learn a few things or two in order to use it internally :p till then i won't mess ... i wouldn't want it to end up in a reboot loop...;)
but as a matter of curiosity...will it be possible to bring the phone to normal by FLASHING if it ends up in a reboot loop due to "whatever" reasons?? :o


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