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Dave999 2010-11-27 18:59

Why do you want/need the N9?
 
That's right. That is the question of the year.

me?

just want something new and shiny.

EDIT: plus I need a new charger!

bakuur 2010-11-27 19:10

Re: Why do you want/need the N9?
 
The hardware is AWSOME!!!
its like the son of the N900
it has everything the N900 wanted to be ;)

bobbydoedoe 2010-11-27 19:48

Re: Why do you want/need the N9?
 
i'm in USA, and tmobile reception isn't cutting it. i want the n9 just for the att 3g freq

rash.m2k 2010-11-27 19:54

Re: Why do you want/need the N9?
 
slimmer, more metal, bigger screen, better camera, processor, running meego so closer to opensuse (my fav distro!), has all the things the n900 has plus more stuff (or will do qt kicks off).

plus my n900 is showing its age now.

KaiRo 2010-11-27 20:04

Re: Why do you want/need the N9?
 
For me, the answer is easy: My N810's touchscreen has gone haywire and I don't have an N900 yet - so what better than to get the new generation? :p

BK201 2010-11-27 20:14

Re: Why do you want/need the N9?
 
I want a N900, but without the resistive screen - N9. Hopefully the N9's hardware won't be outdated by the time it's released.

antezz 2010-11-27 20:15

Re: Why do you want/need the N9?
 
I don't understand why people are so pro N9 and MeeGo, i can tell you vanilla MeeGo is nothing for me, i want my cute little debian box in my pocket. harmattan-meego maybe, vanilla? NO! If i want N9? Well it depends, i love my N900 the only thing i miss is a slighty bigger screen, more cpu and ram is just a bonus dont really take alot of power to use a terminal.

Catacylsm 2010-11-27 20:27

Re: Why do you want/need the N9?
 
Plain and simple, i dont want nor need an n9.

Im going to sit and watch as the new n9 owners find the n900 is now running everything the n9 can nice and natively.


Maemo community is beaut btw.

Kangal 2010-11-27 22:15

Re: Why do you want/need the N9?
 
I think people here want an N9 as a replacement for the N900.
By that I mean it should have beefier processor and gpu.
And on the software side, it should have the "same" potential of Maemo5 but tailored to be a mobileOS like Android, a la hybrid.
That's just my stretched opinion!

s15mos 2010-11-27 22:31

Re: Why do you want/need the N9?
 
i want one because of the slimmer design, and multitouch for better games to be created... as the n900 is almost a perfect phone right now with the ability to do almost anything

gmuslera 2010-11-27 22:36

Re: Why do you want/need the N9?
 
Probably people dont want specifically the N9,but something better than the N900, and that "better" takes heavily into account what gives us maemo over the alternatives.

And that is what promises so far N9, better hardware and a close enough to maemo OS, so everyone probably is interested on it (but to the point of buying it is another thing)

snuski 2010-11-27 22:40

Re: Why do you want/need the N9?
 
the n9 is acctualy E7 but will be uppgradable to meego in the future stop with the f ng n9 N9 does not exist!

snuski 2010-11-27 22:41

Re: Why do you want/need the N9?
 
and if im correct nokia said that the N8 was their last n series phone can anyone confirm this?

matts76 2010-11-27 23:21

Re: Why do you want/need the N9?
 
I always thougt that N1000 would have sounded better, either way what ever its called ill prob get one after about 6 months, because it'll be step 5 of 5 harmatan meego.
but saying that 6 months is a long time in terms of technology and the N900 will be a hard act to follow

leetut 2010-11-27 23:53

Re: Why do you want/need the N9?
 
support without ditching it after 6months
and it should be free to everyone of us beta tester n900 owners
after all.... they used us as lab rats to develop the damn thing!

cincibluer6 2010-11-28 00:18

Re: Why do you want/need the N9?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by snuski (Post 884678)
and if im correct nokia said that the N8 was their last n series phone can anyone confirm this?

No. They said that the N8 was their last Symbian N Series phone.

theonelaw 2010-11-28 00:42

Re: Why do you want/need the N9?
 
Specifications are still a pack of self-contradictory rumours.

[Pessimist]
Not to rain on anyones parade but historical data (ala n900)
show the rain is somewhat predictable. :rolleyes:

Rather difficult to get interested in plonking cold cash down
for vaporware that:

1. is not due to be released any time soon. :(

2. even when it is 'released' will not be in stores (globally)
for anywhere from 3 to 8 months. :(:(

3. even when it arrives will need at least 4months
of firmware tweaking to be a reliable platform. :(:(:(

So we are discussing something that
in the most optimistic scenario might be in your hands
and to where the n900 is now sometime in 2012.
oh, wait - :eek:
the end of the planet may occur before this thing sees the light of my day.
[/Pessimist]

key words: wishful, thinking :o

volt 2010-11-28 02:44

Re: Why do you want/need the N9?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cincibluer6 (Post 884703)
No. They said that the N8 was their last Symbian N Series phone.

They said that the N8 was their last Symbian N Series phones.

Important s cause the N8 is N8-00. A future N8-01 would still be an N8.


The reasons why I want the N9 is because I hope the N9 is better rounded than the N900, and more importantly, I've already had the N900 for a year and I'd like to see the next iteration.

The reasons why I do not want the N9 is because it is input challenged (no stylus, no gloves) and someone hinted at a locked in battery which, if accurate, is pretty much a deal breaker for me. I have more than one battery for most my devices. I just resurrected my pressure sensitive, stylus integrated, once upon a time expensive centrino based tabletPC yesterday by replacing the battery.

Joseph.skb 2010-11-28 02:59

Re: Why do you want/need the N9?
 
Well folks, it's just sooner or later.

New technology will make it obsolete. Not even the 32Gb or Maemo can help. Definitely the ARM® Cortex™-A8 won't be able to support newer, heavy tasks in the future. We're not 4G, and maybe servicing would cost more then the N9xxx?

I guess that's how technology works, right? "the only thing constant in life is change". I'm not too keen to change my N900. It's the best phone I've used, but that's the sad reality.

For me now, I don't want/need the N9!

BigBadGuber! 2010-11-28 03:24

Re: Why do you want/need the N9?
 
i love n900....and no reason to look a anything else for the next 12 months

fasza2 2010-11-28 03:27

Re: Why do you want/need the N9?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by snuski (Post 884676)
the n9 is acctualy E7 but will be uppgradable to meego in the future stop with the f ng n9 N9 does not exist!

I don't think E7 and N900 fall in the same category. Not to say that E7 is a bad device, but 16GB internal memory with no SD slot instead of 32GB+SD? And upgradeable? How would that be? I don't think Nokia expects it's endusers to know how to flash a phone... How about the tonns of payed for symbian apps? When are they ALL going to be ready for meego? Since they would have to be transferrable.
Maybe the next gen device won't be called N9 but surely E7 either.

I think/hope that it's gonna have x86 CPU, hopefully a 1.5-1.8GHz Intel Atom Moorestone. ;) If it's not at least 1.2 I won't bother upgrading for now even if the other specs are nice. My N900 is quite good now:)

somedude 2010-11-28 04:35

Re: Why do you want/need the N9?
 
i want it because this will be 5th time I am sending my N900 for repair for the same problem over and over again, Iam not able to use the phone app in daylight because it thinks some object is really close to it, and PALCO / NOKIA in Alabama send me my N900 back with-out doing anything all they do is reflash the OS and EMMC and now this last time which is 4th time they did not even do that.

tzsm98 2010-11-28 05:37

Re: Why do you want/need the N9?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by somedude (Post 884771)
i want it because this will be 5th time I am sending my N900 for repair for the same problem over and over again, Iam not able to use the phone app in daylight because it thinks some object is really close to it, and PALCO / NOKIA in Alabama send me my N900 back with-out doing anything all they do is reflash the OS and EMMC and now this last time which is 4th time they did not even do that.

Thank you for the cross post. Your effort would be better spent in trying to beat some sense into Nokia repair. But first I would get my story straight. Either they did nothing each time but flash it or they replaced it the first three times and flashed it the last. They will know what they did. I'll hit you privately with an email address and, if I still have it, a phone number that might prove useful.

jerryfreak 2010-11-28 05:49

Re: Why do you want/need the N9?
 
i need one because the iphone is not the pu55y magnet it once was

RobbieThe1st 2010-11-28 06:52

Re: Why do you want/need the N9?
 
I'm convinced: People don't want the N9. They want hope:
Before, it was PR1.2 would fix everything. Then, PR1.3. Then MeeGo.
Now, it's the N9.
People want to feel like there is something better out there that will solve all the problems they run into - whether that's a new device, OS, add-on, or update, it doesn't really matter.

Joseph.skb 2010-11-28 07:14

Re: Why do you want/need the N9?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RobbieThe1st (Post 884809)
I'm convinced: People don't want the N9. They want hope:
Before, it was PR1.2 would fix everything. Then, PR1.3. Then MeeGo.
Now, it's the N9.
People want to feel like there is something better out there that will solve all the problems they run into - whether that's a new device, OS, add-on, or update, it doesn't really matter.

You're right!
New features are introduced...we want them on N900 too.
If Apple comes up with a phone that walks your dog, we want that on the N900.

BruceL 2010-11-28 09:33

Re: Why do you want/need the N9?
 
I want an external HDMI monitor output and USB so I can ditch my laptop once and for all.

Hopefully the N9 won't add HDMI but screw up the N900 features such as the ability to take graphic notes with a stylus.

lma 2010-11-28 10:17

Re: Why do you want/need the N9?
 
What I want is a Linux pocket computer with a decent size keyboard and screen, a modern CPU and plenty of RAM that can last several days between charges with normal use and doesn't phone home with my private data. Whether the N9 fulfils these requirements is still an open question and really up to Nokia, but so far no one's made a device that makes me want to switch from the N810.

ivgalvez 2010-11-28 12:25

Re: Why do you want/need the N9?
 
Well, I absolutely don't want a capacitive screen, they are completely useless for me, totally unprecise. I'd rather wait for a resistive multitouch screen which takes best of both worlds (Hitachi seems to be working on it).

Also, it would be very difficult to me to renounce to the physical keyboard so I thing I'd let pass the N9.

lardman 2010-11-28 17:56

Re: Why do you want/need the N9?
 
What I want is something like the N900 but with a bigger screen (4" or more), an e-compass and a better stand-alone GPS, More RAM and faster CPU are added bonuses. I'm ever hopeful the N9 will fulfil these hopes.

number2301 2010-11-29 00:26

Re: Why do you want/need the N9?
 
I want it because I love seeing each generation of phone replacing my desktop computer for general usage even more. I say this every time but I think the next generation will have the full web experience, I'm thinking proper flash performance. My n900 still can't play many web videos.

Plus I dropped it so it's all scratched and it's developed a couple of bright spots.

tzsm98 2010-11-29 15:26

Re: Why do you want/need the N9?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by number2301 (Post 885282)
I want it because I love seeing each generation of phone replacing my desktop computer for general usage even more. I say this every time but I think the next generation will have the full web experience, I'm thinking proper flash performance. My n900 still can't play many web videos.

Plus I dropped it so it's all scratched and it's developed a couple of bright spots.

See this thread about bright spots. NokiaUSA repair replaced my LCD. The new one has not developed the bright spots.

vlitzer 2010-11-29 15:35

Re: Why do you want/need the N9?
 
I don't want a N9.
I find the N900 to be all I want. This community makes the device awesome, and is one of the reasons I bought it.
My first post btw.

nicholes 2010-11-29 15:39

Re: Why do you want/need the N9?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vlitzer (Post 885608)
I don't want a N9.
I find the N900 to be all I want. This community makes the device awesome, and is one of the reasons I bought it.
My first post btw.

i am with you and.....

Quote:

Originally Posted by Catacylsm (Post 884610)
Plain and simple, i dont want nor need an n9.

Im going to sit and watch as the new n9 owners find the n900 is now running everything the n9 can nice and natively.


Maemo community is beaut btw.

same i think bro!! I do not want anything new since we have worked on n900 and everthing has set up so it feels very handy now. i love my n900

Dave999 2010-11-29 19:46

Re: Why do you want/need the N9?
 
wait 6 month and the real deal hits the market. I think you trigger thingers are pumping the buy button. Hope nokia gives us an offer we can't refuse. (without the horse head ;))

Joseph.skb 2010-11-30 00:18

Re: Why do you want/need the N9?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tzsm98 (Post 885603)
See this thread about bright spots. NokiaUSA repair replaced my LCD. The new one has not developed the bright spots.

Anyone see inconsistent brightness on a white screen? My N900 is slightly dimmer on the left side (horizontal), near to the earpiece. It's probably just noticeable difference if you observed it or when ready notes.

Can anyone advise if this is a defect? I may rather live with it if it's minor/common issue rather than have Nokia disassemble the unit for repair (usually more problems will resurface).

TiagoTiago 2010-11-30 01:02

Re: Why do you want/need the N9?
 
What i want is somthing that is like the N900 but better; crapacitive screen is a deal braker, Nokia shouldn't be trying to catter to the fruitcakes.

volt 2010-12-01 16:24

Re: Why do you want/need the N9?
 
My coworker were called up by his gf today. Not using her own phone, the N8. He's a system developer, she's tech savy to a point.

Her phone was hanging. That doesn't mean much to me, any phone can hang. If I didn't like phones that can hang, I would have the simplest dumbphone on the market. I don't mind if a phone hangs. My N810 used to hang sometimes, my N900 not so much.

The problem was, her phone was hanging, and she couldn't figure out what to do about it. She could not remove the battery, because it was an N8. So, no hard reboot.

I believe the N9 will not have a removable battery. I find that unacceptable. I believe the N9 will not have a stylus. I find that unfortunate.

I fear that Nokia is trying to make Iphones. Unix, Linux. App Store, Ovi Store. Touch screen, good bye stylus. Good bye user replaceable battery...

I'm slowly sliding down from the fence, on the opposite side of the N9. I know it's a while yet till we see the N9, and I may just change my mind on the stylus (because there are no more stylus alternatives left) but I don't see why I would choose a phone where a battery removal voids the warranty.

Though to be honest, a hardware reset button might make me climb back on the fence. I still think it's consumer unfriendly to do it, but at least the phone wouldn't have to be run dry before you could reset it.

jschan 2010-12-01 20:12

Re: Why do you want/need the N9?
 
Holding down the power button doesn't work to hard shutdown on the n8? I don't think I've had the need to take out my battery on my n900 yet, *knock on wood*.

volt 2010-12-02 09:12

Re: Why do you want/need the N9?
 
As it turned out, it actually did work. Holding it for 8 seconds. They just didn't know about it. Seems rather intuitive to me, but only cause I know how power buttons work on PCs :p
He says she'd tried holding it long, just not long enough. I would've tried for 12 seconds (10 seconds plus be-sure-it's-10-seconds grace period)


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