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augustthe

2010-12-29 18:59

Re: Make n900 smooth, is there even more ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by shnigi (Post 906852)

Does this make any harm if i use joikuspot ? Or just making connection faster ?

How do i open that ini file, can u tell me xterm commands :P

you got 2 option by using open ssh or download leafpad from extras then use this command :
root
leafpad /etc/powervr.d/hildon-desktop.ini
then change the value 0 to 1 save it then restart hopr this helps

shnigi

2010-12-29 21:41

Re: Make n900 smooth, is there even more ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by augustthe (Post 906882)

you got 2 option by using open ssh or download leafpad from extras then use this command :
root
leafpad /ect/powervr.d/hildon-desktop.ini
then change the value 0 to 1 save it then restart hopr this helps

Leafpad gives me a blank page ? after leafpad /ect/powervr.d/hildon-desktop.ini

cfh11

2010-12-29 21:58

Re: Make n900 smooth, is there even more ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by shnigi (Post 907006)

Leafpad gives me a blank page ? after leafpad /ect/powervr.d/hildon-desktop.ini

there's a typo there.... it's /etc/powervr.d/hildon-desktop.ini

mattbutsko

2010-12-29 22:05

Re: Make n900 smooth, is there even more ?

Hey, over the passed few months, I've tried flipping the switch on /ect/powervr.d/hildon-desktop.ini three times. Each time I turned it on and rebooted, it seemed to have vertical sync enabled for transitions, but the framerate doesn't stay consistent. Anyone else notice this?

augustthe

2010-12-29 22:09

Re: Make n900 smooth, is there even more ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by shnigi (Post 907006)

Leafpad gives me a blank page ? after leafpad /ect/powervr.d/hildon-desktop.ini

sorry about that i did a mistake try leafpad /etc/powervr.d/hildon-desktop.ini it should work now

gabby131

2010-12-29 22:39

Re: Make n900 smooth, is there even more ?

i believe my lags and hangs are results of a buggy app plus wrong voltage overclocking configuration.

shnigi

2010-12-30 16:39

Re: Make n900 smooth, is there even more ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by cfh11 (Post 907019)

there's a typo there.... it's /etc/powervr.d/hildon-desktop.ini

yeah now it worked, so far looks good.

Actually after playing around for a while this did a big difference i think.

mattbutsko

2010-12-30 17:54

Re: Make n900 smooth, is there even more ?

i went ahead and re-enabled it, fourth time. i'm running ideal profile, 500 to 900 i think, maybe 1Ghz, and this time around the UI itself, not the transitions, lagged beyond belief! scrolling through the app menu was delayed by 3 seconds.

i just disabled it and runnin good now. everyone else seems to benefit from it. maybe i'll enable it immediately in the next reflash.

shnigi

2010-12-30 20:30

Re: Make n900 smooth, is there even more ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by confusedfella (Post 888776)

I tried the hardware accelerated transitions, the transitions are better but there is always that jerky transition. Its extremely annoying.

What does that hardware acceleration mean, how its applied to system ?

retsaw

2010-12-30 21:59

Re: Make n900 smooth, is there even more ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by gabby131 (Post 907058)

i believe my lags and hangs are results of a buggy app plus wrong voltage overclocking configuration.

In my experience lags are generally when the N900 is low on memory and swapping (they can be caused by buggy apps though), and I have never had it hang completely except when I tried turning on that setting in /etc/powervr.d/hildon-desktop.ini. The only issue I've had from overclocking is random reboots from a too low voltage profile.

epitaph

2010-12-31 12:06

Re: Make n900 smooth, is there even more ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by shnigi (Post 906852)

Does this make any harm if i use joikuspot ? Or just making connection faster ?

It should work with wifi tethering out-of-the-box. May I remind you that the same script is running on my router also.

Pls note also my new tutorial in my signature!

shnigi

2011-01-02 19:27

Re: Make n900 smooth, is there even more ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by augustthe (Post 906181)

set hildon-desktop transition by edit /etc/powervr.d/hildon-desktop.ini change the value to 1 to enable it then restart your phone you see a smooth and faster feel to ur phone hope this helps:)

What did this do ?? I havent noticed single lag after this, amazing. Only when using internet my phone may lag, so i should try packet injection mentioned above :P

Venemo

2011-01-03 11:15

Re: Make n900 smooth, is there even more ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by etuoyo (Post 888783)

I am overclocked to 1150mhz and using swappolube and yet my device freezes up completely several times a day.

I don't see anything surprising there.
Overclocking makes your device unstable, period.

geneven

2011-01-03 11:35

Re: Make n900 smooth, is there even more ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Venemo (Post 910422)

I don't see anything surprising there.
Overclocking makes your device unstable, period.

1. The N900 comes overclocked from Nokia. So we should expect unstability?

2. Why don't I have instability? I overclock at 900 mhz all the time. How do I get the instability?

Venemo

2011-01-03 12:53

Re: Make n900 smooth, is there even more ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by shnigi (Post 888717)

root
leafpad /etc/powervr.d/hildon-desktop.ini
change the value from 0 to 1

This is actually known to cause instability and frequent crashing.
If you really want your device to be smooth, disable the blur effect in the transitions.ini instead.

Venemo

2011-01-03 12:56

Re: Make n900 smooth, is there even more ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by geneven (Post 910436)

2. Why don't I have instability? I overclock at 900 mhz all the time. How do I get the instability?

You 900 MHz, he 1150 MHz. That is the difference.

shnigi

2011-01-03 13:36

Re: Make n900 smooth, is there even more ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Venemo (Post 910487)

This is actually known to cause instability and frequent crashing.
If you really want your device to be smooth, disable the blur effect in the transitions.ini instead.

For me it made miracles, not a single freeze or crash after that.
Can u tell me how to edit the blurr effect via xterm, might try that aswell to get more boost :P ?

bobbydoedoe

2011-01-03 17:26

Re: Make n900 smooth, is there even more ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by shnigi (Post 910523)

For me it made miracles, not a single freeze or crash after that.
Can u tell me how to edit the blurr effect via xterm, might try that aswell to get more boost :P ?

download the app call transition from fap, reboot (not sure if its needed), than open the app, and just zero everything out, hit apply, than restart desktop.

shnigi

2011-01-03 21:45

Re: Make n900 smooth, is there even more ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobbydoedoe (Post 910743)

download the app call transition from fap, reboot (not sure if its needed), than open the app, and just zero everything out, hit apply, than restart desktop.

ah you mean transition control, its mentioned in the first post and im already using it.

romanianusa

2011-01-03 23:25

Re: Make n900 smooth, is there even more ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by etuoyo (Post 888783)

I am overclocked to 1150mhz and using swappolube and yet my device freezes up completely several times a day. This is my second N900 and this one is less than a week old. Yet everyone else seems to have super smooth N900s. Don't know whether I am just unlucky with N900s, whether others are pretending their devices are flawless or whether I have something I install that kills the device. Whatever it is this is the most frustrating device I have ever owned. My favourite phone ever due to all the customisations but still the most frustrating ever.

Change to different voltage..xlv or ulv or something...

romanianusa

2011-01-03 23:37

Re: Make n900 smooth, is there even more ?

I overclocked min-max to 1.15Ghz and watch Youtube in 360p and it's very smooth for some videos. But it gets hot after awhile so have to watch out for that. But i can watch it w/ min-max 500Mhz-1.15Ghz. As far as surfing the web without flash...it is super smooth...and it wouldn't get hot. I normally just use overclocked from 500Mhz to 1.15Ghz and everything is fine. Never have to restart or anything. You just have to test out which profile fit your device. If this device have hardware acceleration....it'll be smooth in watching flash video....but then it'll probably get too hot. I think that's why they don't recommend going over 240p youtube format, maybe cuz it gets hot. I don't know...watching flash video is using too much resource even for PC!! That's why i guess Steve Jobs dont' want it for iphone.

shazzy84

2011-01-04 07:49

Re: Make n900 smooth, is there even more ?

thanks! all your tips were great! my n900 is slick, like butter

shnigi

2011-01-04 12:32

Re: Make n900 smooth, is there even more ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by shazzy84 (Post 911288)

thanks! all your tips were great! my n900 is slick, like butter

nice to hear, have been looking for 6 months how to speed up the phone as its performance is very poor for me. But after all of these modifications its last doing the job i thought it would do. Still updating the list if i find something useful.

shazzy84

2011-01-04 19:57

Re: Make n900 smooth, is there even more ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by shnigi (Post 911412)

Please do!
I even did step 5 http://n900-tune-up.sourceforge.net/ and it worked well.

A few questions: for transitions control, you suggested, everything 10 and then blank 15, and rotation 40%.
So place everything: blur, task zoom, task rearrange, app open, launcher in, etc as 10?
And blank min, blank max as 15?
Rotate % i placed as 40%, but should i place rotate in, and out as 40?

shnigi

2011-01-05 16:19

Re: Make n900 smooth, is there even more ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by shazzy84 (Post 911674)

Quote:

Originally Posted by shazzy84 (Post 911674)

Please do!
I even did step 5 http://n900-tune-up.sourceforge.net/ and it worked well.

He uploaded a deb file and then i installed it too, made some progress and updated my boost post :P

NEW!
Posted a video to show u that n900 can be fast, but it needs a bit tweaking. Check first post of this thread. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCQaxqqRzm4

epitaph

2011-01-05 16:50

Re: Make n900 smooth, is there even more ?

Nice Video! U should browse more! I can overclock only to 900 Mhz!

shazzy84

2011-01-05 21:23

Re: Make n900 smooth, is there even more ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by shnigi (Post 912302)

I should do that step 5 also. Well only rotate% 40, rotate in and out 10. Blank min,max 15, everything else 10. Ofc you can play around and check if it makes any difference, those values are only my suggestion.

He uploaded a deb file and then i installed it too, made some progress and updated my boost post :P

NEW!
Posted a video to show u that n900 can be fast, but it needs a bit tweaking. Check first post of this thread. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCQaxqqRzm4

That vid is awesome! My n900 runs as smooth, although i do not have mine device Overclocked.
Im trying to find ways to save on battery life. Usually with moderate use, i get through a day and then some, but with heavy use...well you know. Got any tips besides the usual, lower screen dimness, wifi off, 2g on, email set to check on manual, etc?

shnigi

2011-01-05 21:51

Re: Make n900 smooth, is there even more ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by shazzy84 (Post 912578)

Thats the problem we have, poor battery. Im currently looking for extra battery... I want raw working power and therefore dont care very much about battery life. What comes to my mind, lovering voltages and underclocking could save some battery. I bought this one but it didnt work... http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.44944

nology

2011-03-10 06:07

Re: Make n900 smooth, is there even more ?

[QUOTE=shnigi;888717]Check out how amazing fast it is, no lag after ALL of these
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCQaxqqRzm4

what theme are you using in the video?

shnigi

2011-04-24 19:22

Re: Make n900 smooth, is there even more ?

[QUOTE=nology;964636]

Quote:

Originally Posted by shnigi (Post 888717)

Check out how amazing fast it is, no lag after ALL of these
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCQaxqqRzm4

what theme are you using in the video?

Android theme, font and icons + custom wallpaper http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/3741/shnigi.jpg
http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/2863/shnigi2.jpg
http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/627/shnigi3.jpg

eefo	2011-05-02 06:21

Re: Make n900 smooth, is there even more ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by shnigi (Post 888717)

Check out how amazing fast it is, no lag after ALL of these
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCQaxqqRzm4

1.
Reflash new maemo with latest PR + CSSU

http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU

2.
programs to install:
-swappolube, with proposed settings
-transitioncontrol, everything 10, blank 15 and rotate 40%
-tweakflash, froyo flash
-tracker cfg (Enable “LowMemoryMode”, Set Indexing Throttle to 10) save and restart tracker, rebuild if wanted
-theme customizer and apply fast animations

3.
- overclock. 24/7 900-1100mhz. (i suggest to use default voltages as its more stable for me.) Check jakimans oc guide http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...&postcount=774

- remove touchscreen vibration and system sounds from settings
- apply cssu features (download software if needed)

-Disable autoupdate (when you connect to internet this is why your phone lags) type to xterm (you dont have to root): gconftool -s --type int /apps/hildon/update-notifier/check_interval 1440000

4.
-Remove all unnecessary widgets and shortcuts

-download leafpad, open xterm and type:
root
leafpad /etc/powervr.d/hildon-desktop.ini
change the value from 0 to 1 save and reboot
______________________________

Below here is outdated and old stuff:
______________________________

I guess almost everything is in this program now: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...846#post913846

-Download modified hildon desktop (suggest matans desktop)
Add matans repository and download via application manager http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Matan

5. This one i havent tried yet because it may not work with swappolube, its for audio boost anyway http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=63997

6. I also removed fourth desktop, and now using just 3

7. After all tweaks remember to reboot.

- If your phone lags with overclocked, it may be caused if you have too low voltages. Try lovering mhz or putting more voltages.

- what i have learned so far in this thread, tweaking dsp could help. Anything else ?

After all of this my n900 works like i thought it would.

If you find your n900 slow try my tweak steps. Opinions and thoughts are welcome.

worth checking: Jakimans tweaks http://shootspeak.com/2010/12/05/nok...rmance-tweaks/

To speed up your internet (i dont suggest this as it works very bad for me)
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=67710

well almost 70% things i already have and using :p
but i need to ask one thing.
what is that tracker cfg and what does it do ?

shnigi

2011-05-04 06:01

Re: Make n900 smooth, is there even more ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by eefo (Post 998676)

well almost 70% things i already have and using :p
but i need to ask one thing.
what is that tracker cfg and what does it do ?

I just updated my post a bit. Tracker cfg controls how your media mp3, images and other are "listed" in your phone. As i have understood your phone searches music files all the time and that may give bad performance sometimes. I red those tunes in jakimans guide. I noticed that if you add example mp3 files in your phone it wont start searching them immediately, only when you open your mediaplayer it searches them. Hope you understood something :)

romeroroma

2011-05-18 10:15

Re: Make n900 smooth, is there even more ?

Mr.Shingi. i have a silly question. in the video u made how to make it smooth and fast and this stuff .. i need 1 thing. the back grounds u had on the mobile phone lol. can u tell me from where u get em ? thx.

shnigi

2011-05-18 10:18

Re: Make n900 smooth, is there even more ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by romeroroma (Post 1008965)

Yeah sure, i made them myself. Here are links:

http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/3741/shnigi.jpg
http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/2863/shnigi2.jpg
http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/627/shnigi3.jpg

romeroroma

2011-05-18 10:36

Re: Make n900 smooth, is there even more ?

Is there any FB or hotmail or even Yahoo i can add u on ? i really need to talk to u about some stuff on my N900. i bought new one and need some guiding :D ?

eefo	2011-05-18 10:54

Re: Make n900 smooth, is there even more ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by romeroroma (Post 1008989)

Is there any FB or hotmail or even Yahoo i can add u on ? i really need to talk to u about some stuff on my N900. i bought new one and need some guiding :D ?

lol
you can ask here what every you wanted to.
as you can have more than one answer posting your question in threads ;)

romeroroma

2011-05-18 11:07

Re: Make n900 smooth, is there even more ?

The thing is .. on FB or HM i`ll get instant answers like chatting. but here i have so freaken amny questions cuz am really new :D so i`ll never get enof :P

chemist

2011-05-18 11:13

Re: Make n900 smooth, is there even more ?

Join the maemo IRC channel on freenode #maemo

http://wiki.maemo.org/IRC

romeroroma

2011-05-18 12:01

Re: Make n900 smooth, is there even more ?

Awesome !!<3

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