Re: [TUTORIAL-WIP] N900-LINUX: Ubuntu, Fedora and Archlinux
 

"Real" Arch on the N900.

Re: [TUTORIAL-WIP] N900-LINUX: Ubuntu, Fedora and Archlinux
 

dude can you reupload archlinux please?

Re: [TUTORIAL-WIP] N900-LINUX: Ubuntu, Fedora and Archlinux
 

hello guys,

thanks for the great work done here, one question
is it possible to start the gui somehow to be able to see the screen over eg. VNC on the PC with different resolution as 800x480?

thanks

Re: [TUTORIAL-WIP] N900-LINUX: Ubuntu, Fedora and Archlinux
 

something which is only possible on mighty N900.

Re: [TUTORIAL-WIP] N900-LINUX: Ubuntu, Fedora and Archlinux
 

i was thinking to do some kinda X forwarding, or FW directly $DISPLAY to my X server

Re: [TUTORIAL-WIP] N900-LINUX: Ubuntu, Fedora and Archlinux
 

Plz help i cant download ubuntu or fedora images i get error 404 file not found so plz sany other downloading link or can any body upload the images
thanx



see here http://www.qole.org/files/ for images thanx to qole

Re: [TUTORIAL-WIP] N900-LINUX: Ubuntu, Fedora and Archlinux
 

plz some body help me with this:confused::confused:



i extracted the images and now it is woking:cool:

Re: [TUTORIAL-WIP] N900-LINUX: Ubuntu, Fedora and Archlinux
 

+1......

Would really like to download the Arch linux image file....

Thanks!

Re: [TUTORIAL-WIP] N900-LINUX: Ubuntu, Fedora and Archlinux
 

You should be able to start any vnc server you want at any resolution and remote into it. You can do this and use VNC into the N900 itself with a larger desktop with panning. I did this awhile back.

I am planning on doing an Ubuntu chroot and doing a vnc server at the native resolution of my Nexus 7 so I can run LibreOffice and Java apps from my tablet.

Re: [TUTORIAL-WIP] N900-LINUX: Ubuntu, Fedora and Archlinux
 

Here is my old post on using VNC from the chroot to get higher than 800x480 resolution.

http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=878830

Re: [TUTORIAL-WIP] N900-LINUX: Ubuntu, Fedora and Archlinux
 

Hi All!

I'm seeking for answer to the following: i extracted and installed easy debian, it works perfect. Then i decided to do try ubuntu this way. It also works perfectly, but somehow the two system/application is not independent from each other. I mean: i can not run both of them at the same time (like it is in the video), and when i change something (for example the backround, or the panel settings) in one of them, the changes also taking place in the other system... So my question is: what should i do to make the two systems run independently?

Thanks,

jm

Re: [TUTORIAL-WIP] N900-LINUX: Ubuntu, Fedora and Archlinux
 

Probably, you don't have /home/user separated for them, using Maemo ones instead.

Re: [TUTORIAL-WIP] N900-LINUX: Ubuntu, Fedora and Archlinux
 

Thanks, Estel! I tested some things, and yes, both debian and ubuntu uses maemo's /home/user directory when they are mounted... So this indicates the question: what should i do to separate the systems from each other...?

(just one more thing: when i set for example wallpaper in debian from the directory "lxde", of course it does not appear in ubuntu, but when i set ubuntu's wallpaper from "lxde/other", the debian wallpaper disappears; and vice versa. the same thing happens with everything that i change: panel settings, appearence, etc)

Thanks, jm

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For EasyDebian, see it's wiki:
http://wiki.maemo.org/Easy_Debian

...looking for "onfirstchroot" and similar scripts. Those are things, that get automatically executed, when you mount your debian partition/image file, or chroot into it, executed either from inside chroot, or from Maemo.

Alternatively, you may want to try latest Squeeze images of EasyDebian - they should have /home/user separated, already (via exact same method as I described - proper on*chroot script).

As for Ubuntu, I have no idea - probably, it depends if you also use easy-chroot for access it (if yes, same method with scripts in per-defined directory, should work).

You should also be aware, that Easy Debian have own thread:
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=34550&page=290

...but you may want to start reading it non-chronological order, starting from last page, due to it's rather epic size.

Good luck and have fun!

/Estel

Re: [TUTORIAL-WIP] N900-LINUX: Ubuntu, Fedora and Archlinux
 

Thank you, Estel!

Here is what i have got so far:
- i decided not to mess things up, so i removed easy debian and easy ubuntu completely.
- Then i installed easy-chroot and ubuntu-n900, so easy ubuntu booted smoothly, except it always said that i had to run XSETTINGS or define icon theme. Anyway, it had icon theme, so i did not understand the thing.
- Then i run into the similar problem someone mentioned before: updating. I editied the sources.list, because the one that comes with easy ubuntu (ports.ubuntu.com) is not working anymore. I changed it to update from karmic repos and it updated fine, i installed gimp, ufraw. They are working perfectly so far.
- Then i run another similar problem someone mentioned before: terminal has no keyboard input. This is almost true: xterm - which comes also with easy ubuntu and can be run from pcmanfm - has keyboard input. I checked permissions and found this: while ubuntu chroot has root privileges, lxde doesn't. I tried everything to change this situation (chown, chmod), but i couldn't figure out how to solve it. So i did the following (CAUTION! DO IT AT YOUR OWN RISK!): i edited the ubbie and ubbie-sue files located in Maemo's usr/bin. It has a line: "UBUSER=$USER". I changed it to "UBUSER=$UBUSER" in both files and now lxde boots with root privileges and lxterminal has keyboard input. But be careful, because in this way you are in super user mode, so you can mess things up easier. The only thing i miss is the virtual keyboard but i think this can be helped some way.

So far easy ubuntu in this way is working fine, i find it faster than easy debian so i would not make tests about running them independently at the same time; i don't want to install easy-deb-chroot, for now.

Cheers,

jm

EDIT: It would be nice to have keyboard input after leaving then returning to easy ubuntu lxde. Anyway i'm trying not to be so malcontent; i do like this app very-very much and i'm really thankful for it.

Re: [TUTORIAL-WIP] N900-LINUX: Ubuntu, Fedora and Archlinux
 

From technical point of view, there is no reason for it to work faster than ED. Or slower, for that matter. It's both using chroot, LXDE desktop environment... Easy Ubuntu is less popular than Easy Debian, so the former may be less thoroughly tested = have some unstable/non-working things,, but thats about it.

What *does* improve speed, is using Easy <whatever> from native (ext3, or, preferably, ext4) partition, *not* loopback image file. Having it on eMMC and swap on microSD (so swap is only one constant thing accessing that physical storage) helps even further, just like using thumb for exterior system (maemo), as it leaves more free RAM for debian/ubuntu things.

Good luck,
/Estel

Re: [TUTORIAL-WIP] N900-LINUX: Ubuntu, Fedora and Archlinux
 

Thank you for the correction, Estel, you are right. I use easy ubuntu with the same technical parameters, so yes, it is just me finding it a bit more fast.

I guess i take the challange to test easy ubuntu and find out it's "weaknesses" :)

Cheers,

jm

Re: [TUTORIAL-WIP] N900-LINUX: Ubuntu, Fedora and Archlinux
 

Where I can get the ubuntu img file? The link to dropbox doesn't work

Re: [TUTORIAL-WIP] N900-LINUX: Ubuntu, Fedora and Archlinux
 

Hi, Atlas!

You can download the files from here: http://qole.org/files/

jm

Re: [TUTORIAL-WIP] N900-LINUX: Ubuntu, Fedora and Archlinux
 

Hey guys, I have accidentally deleted the ubuntu.img.ext2, so whenever i tried to run ubuntu lxde, i get

the dropbox link is not working anymore, and I don't know if the file is listed in qole's website. I couldn't find ubuntu.img.ext2 in http://qole.org/files/. In the website, it has 6 ubuntu files. Which one should I download?

thx!

Re: [TUTORIAL-WIP] N900-LINUX: Ubuntu, Fedora and Archlinux
 

Hi one1002,

you should download the file named: ubuntu-m5-v1.img.ext2.lzma, then extract it where the previous image was. this should fix your problem.

jm

Re: [TUTORIAL-WIP] N900-LINUX: Ubuntu, Fedora and Archlinux
 

Hi All,

I wrote some summary about my easy ubuntu experiences, so I decided to post it here along with some screenshots.

Cheers,

jm

Re: [TUTORIAL-WIP] N900-LINUX: Ubuntu, Fedora and Archlinux
 

Hi All,

I just wanted to make a quick update with a screenshot just to show the possibilities.

Cheers,

jm

Re: [TUTORIAL-WIP] N900-LINUX: Ubuntu, Fedora and Archlinux
 

in case you are not aware - there is mouse and keyboard support in the repos (extkbd and extmou)

Re: [TUTORIAL-WIP] N900-LINUX: Ubuntu, Fedora and Archlinux
 

thanks, freemangordon! I read something about this support long time ago, and of course I totally forgot it. (: so thanks again.

Re: [TUTORIAL-WIP] N900-LINUX: Ubuntu, Fedora and Archlinux
 

Hi All!

I refreshed my writing because I found a solution for the sound problem.

Cheers,

jm

Re: [TUTORIAL-WIP] N900-LINUX: Ubuntu, Fedora and Archlinux
 

Hi,

did someone already try e17 enlightment desktop and compared it to the lxde one?

Great work keep it up!

Re: [TUTORIAL-WIP] N900-LINUX: Ubuntu, Fedora and Archlinux
 

Hi All!

Just a quick post on a very annoying issue: i wanted to install R on easy ubuntu, but during the installation something went wrong; an unexpected restart occured. Normally it is not a problem, my maemo system wasn't harm of course, but ubuntu lxde is now messed up, it cannot load LXDE, stops atthe window that says:"Ctrl back to return to dashboard". Luckily ubuntu chroot is working. I tried to figure out what the problem was, but I didn't succeded. Segmentation fault everywhere, broken files in /usr/bin, cannot start any of the applications; only midnight commander is working. So now i backup my config files (for conky, nautilus, midori, etc.) and start the whole thing again from the beginning. Frankly, now i would like to use easy debian, because it has the applications that easy ubuntu doesn't (R Commander for example).

Cheers,

jm

EDIT: some other things that i noticed:
- when i tried to launch debian lxde (that was on my phone's MyDocs folder as well), it also refused to start.
- After rebooting the phone the debian lxde located in MyDocs started normally.
- After rebooting the phone ubuntu lxde wont start.
- After launching ubuntu lxde debian lxde won't start either -> it needs rebooting the phone.
- After copying debian lxde it starts normally from other places (mmc1).
- After copying ubuntu lxde it doesn' start. But the original, freshly downloaded easy ubuntu image is working fine.

- Trying to figure out what the problem was, i found that some lib files are corrupted, and NFS handle happend. I can't do a thing to solve it; i think something happened with /dev/loop0.
- I don't know if i did it well, but tried to fsck the not-working ubuntu image (/dev/loop0). Fsck said that it is corrupted, something is wrong woth the block size. So that is it.

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Hi All!

After flashing my device i decided to have another try on "easy-things" (:

There is something with easy debian; every second run the menu disappears and i can log out only if i run the command from /usr/bin... I didn't want to mess with this, so i gave easy ubuntu another try.
I made a separate ext3 partition on my sd card and converted and copied ubuntu image to that.

That is why i refreshed my earlier writing a bit. It seems that maybe the battery drained totally during the installation of R; it is working now, there is nothing wrong with it.

Cheers,

jm

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Hi All,
Thanks justmemory for the big work you've done.
Unfortunately the ubuntu-n900.deb does not work as UbuntuOne has been discontinued. Does someone still own this file? If not, is there a way to install and access it without it (the deb file) ?
Thanks in advance!!! :o

Re: [TUTORIAL-WIP] N900-LINUX: Ubuntu, Fedora and Archlinux
 

Hi Boemien,

certainly!

Sorry for the late reply. I'm at work now, but as soon as i arrive home i will upload the deb file.

EDIT: file uploaded

jm

Re: [TUTORIAL-WIP] N900-LINUX: Ubuntu, Fedora and Archlinux
 

Yay, Thanks a lot!!!! :D

Re: [TUTORIAL-WIP] N900-LINUX: Ubuntu, Fedora and Archlinux
 

Hi all,

I finally found a way to fix the keyboard focus lost. It appeared, as justmemory explained in his guide here http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...&postcount=506 that when pressing control + backspace, one could not type anymore inside Ubuntu.

So following the Easy Debian Wiki, http://wiki.maemo.org/Easy_Debian I modified two files.

First you have to chroot inside ubuntu.

Then use Winscp or other ssh soft to acces the files.

The first one is located under ./ubuntu/etc/xdg/lxsession/LXDE/autostart

just add these lines:

Save it then go to the second file located under /.ubuntu/usr/bin/xephwm5

change the lines containing qobi-wmhint-fix and set-focus (close to the end) so that they read

I hope it will work for you. For the terminal problem, i don't have a solution for now, but i'm going to search! Thanks for continuing to work. Ubuntu is definitely faster than Easy Debian. :D

PS: I don't know if it does a difference but EASY DEBIAN is still installed in the phone.

TO DO: Find what config file Easy Debian uses to run LXDE and apply it to Ubuntu. I hope that I could be able to finally uninstall Easy Debian and use its config files with ubuntu.

Re: [TUTORIAL-WIP] N900-LINUX: Ubuntu, Fedora and Archlinux
 

Brilliant, Boemien, thanks a lot, it is working flawlessly! This little thing was madness for me... :) One addition: I changed the "qobi" line without the "sudo", because i have root privileges by default.

Mentioning the autostart file: i removed the xscreensaver line, as it is quite CPU hungry when it is running and i wasn't able to set it properly...

Ubuntu is faster for me too, but as Estel explained earlier, theoretically there shouldn't be a difference, so maybe it is just a feeling :) But i can watch even movies with mplayer almost without one single lag...

I think there is no difference whether easy debian is installed or not, because - as i know, but please correct me - they use different config files as they run.
I don't know if you could use easy debian's config file to run ubuntu; but why would you like to do that...? Theoretically you can uninstall them separately. Earlier i had them both installed on my phone, then i uninstalled them separately (easy ubuntu was first installed, it was working; then easy debian was installed, it was working almost fine; then uninstalled easy debian and i could use easy ubuntu...).

Thanks again,

jm

Re: [TUTORIAL-WIP] N900-LINUX: Ubuntu, Fedora and Archlinux
 

Yep, i noticed a little difference in the UI. When opening Ubuntu with Easy Debian installed, the UI is quite nice (with a beautiful background :D ) When i uninstall Easy Debian, the UI in ubuntu is a little bit weird (with GTK things/warnings). It's not a big problem for me too. I'll try to play a bit with the files and see if it changes something.

PS: Thumb up for the screen-saver tip. ;)

And last thing: Do you know how to uninstall softwares using the chroot ? The software center seems not to work. Thanks.

EDIT: The GTK warnings disappear by changing the theme.

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Try to change the Audio output plugin to PulseAudio, then OK.
It works quite well! I tried VLC but it has lags when the sound plays (about 5 sec, then it runs fine).

As you tested many browsers, try fennec. it has a good touch friendly interface. I'm just bored everytime it asks me for profile creation.

For Terminal problem, I tried to install Gnome-terminal but something went wrong. It does not appear in the menu. I think it's a dependency problem. But I can launch it via ubuntu chroot (useless as we have maemo xterm).

PS: When i want to uninstall a soft (LXTerminal or LXMusic for example) it tries to uninstall also lxde*.
What command do I need to only uninstall LXTerminal without uninstalling lxde ?

Re: [TUTORIAL-WIP] N900-LINUX: Ubuntu, Fedora and Archlinux
 

hi,

the gtk warnings are related to the .gtkrc file located in /root. didn't i mention that in the experiences writing...? hmm... if not then i shall make up for that :)

on easy ubuntu you can install synaptic, then the application launcher in maemo will work; because synaptic is not installed on easy ubuntu by default.

thanks for the browser tip, i shall try. now i use midori, it works perfectly, small footprint, plays flash, not asking for profile... :)

for gnome terminal maybe you should have gnome, not LXDE... ;) but maybe you can install dependencies as nautilus can be installed too. if no shortcut appears, maybe you should do your own - i made quite a lot for my desired programs.

you can not uninstall LX* things. believe me... i tried once... total distruction... :D so, LXDE runs with those, but there are many-many alternatives for the work you would like to do with those.
oh, and one more thing: LXMusic now has sound for me; changing the output solved the sound problem.

jm

Re: [TUTORIAL-WIP] N900-LINUX: Ubuntu, Fedora and Archlinux
 

Hi All,

due to the conversation with Boemien I refreshed my earlier experiences.

Cheers,

jm

EDIT: edited in connection with tablet-encode, and copying image content.

Re: [TUTORIAL-WIP] N900-LINUX: Ubuntu, Fedora and Archlinux
 

anyone can upload on somewhere about Archlinux chroot installation files? and i need fedora-n900.deb


thanks

edit...

i get fedora-n900.deb file

Re: [TUTORIAL-WIP] N900-LINUX: Ubuntu, Fedora and Archlinux
 

Good afternoon,
there is any way to run Sailfish OS? It is the one with the telephone features enabled.