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-   -   Further discussion of Nokia's support for Maemo 5 (was: Nokia finishes Maemo5 support) (https://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=66767)

extendedping 2010-12-10 14:09
Re: Nokia finishes Maemo5 support
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by optimistprime (Post 894020)
That would be incorrect. You "gave" Nokia $600, and Nokia gave you your N900. There was no promise in literature that you recieved with it that you would have quarterly updates or anything. You made a decision like the rest of us to take a chance on a non-mainstream OS. I couldnt be happier with mine, and I've had it since November 2009. Its like buying a car in its first production run. Maybe you shouldnt have taken the chance on it.
It is like you are proud that Nokia promised nothing and delivered on it. There is a sort of implied promise when you pay $600+ and the competition is going like gangbusters to make keep their comparable devices ahead of the curve.

ironm8 2010-12-10 14:17
Re: Nokia finishes Maemo5 support
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ossipena (Post 894013)
must I play my "step 4/5" -card again? what is wrong with you when the same fud must be corrected n+1 times in this thread.
You just made me angry. your "card" is worthless.
Seriously, did you sign any "Experiment closure" with Nokia?
No, Noone did. I dont give a **** thats for them its a "step".
We payed a full price for a phone in beta state at best. If Nokia had sold it for less while specifying its impending short "death" i would agree with your "card". That is not the issue, so i would say i'd want the treatment every other Nokia custumer is getting, like someone here said, the 5800 is still getting updates.

So if we sum things up, it looks like most of us got f**** by Nokia:
1. We payed full price.
2. We "helped" them with their little experiment or step.
3. We didnt get the support that is entitled with buying such an expensive device.


P.S: I am happy with my N900 nontheless.

extendedping 2010-12-10 14:29
Re: Nokia finishes Maemo5 support
 
Funny I am torn. I want meego to succeed because at some point I want a kick *** linux device in my pocket. At the same time I actually think Nokia deserves to fail. Does anyone else have these split feelings?

tzsm98 2010-12-10 14:35
Re: Nokia finishes Maemo5 support
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by sak500 (Post 893103)
... launched n8 which is crappiest phone i've seen. ...
Wow! You need to get out more. There are plenty of devices crappier than the N8.

optimistprime 2010-12-10 15:08
Re: Nokia finishes Maemo5 support
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by extendedping (Post 894031)
It is like you are proud that Nokia promised nothing and delivered on it. There is a sort of implied promise when you pay $600+ and the competition is going like gangbusters to make keep their comparable devices ahead of the curve.

No, I am proud that i did the investigation and paid for a device that does everything I thought and was told that it could and couldnt do. I am proud that i paid $549 for a device that is able to be configured how I like and has the support of a good bunch of people in this community. Nokia gave you a hardware warranty with your device and didnt imply anything to you. Technology becomes obsolete as soon as the device is in the consumers hands. $600 was the price you paid to learn the lesson. I couldve taught you that for $100.

benny1967 2010-12-10 15:09
Re: Nokia finishes Maemo5 support
 
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Originally Posted by ironm8 (Post 894036)
We payed a full price for a phone in beta state at best. If Nokia had sold it for less while specifying its impending short "death" i would agree with your "card".
Now as far as I remember, Nokia did tell us that the N900 would not be supported for long. They told me even before the N900 was released. They informed me about the next iteration of the OS (that was already in the making then), they told me it was due in late 2010 and that in would not run on the N900s hardware. So when I bought my N900, I expected active development until roughly Sept 2010.

About the price: You don't know anything about the price. Maybe they did sell it for less. Maybe under different circumstances they'd have sold it for €800,- and we got it cheaper because it's a public beta device (as they told us).

Anyway. The N900 isn't dead. Nokia will support it as long as they're obliged to do so according to national laws (which usually depends on when youi bought it, not when they launched it). This whole thread is just embarrassing.

johnel 2010-12-10 15:17
Re: Nokia finishes Maemo5 support
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by benny1967 (Post 894070)
Now as far as I remember, Nokia did tell us that the N900 would not be supported for long. They told me even before the N900 was released. They informed me about the next iteration of the OS (that was already in the making then), they told me it was due in late 2010 and that in would not run on the N900s hardware. So when I bought my N900, I expected active development until roughly Sept 2010.
...
Nokia must have whispered that very quietly in a sound-proof room because I don't think many people got that message.

tzsm98 2010-12-10 15:19
Re: Nokia finishes Maemo5 support
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by benny1967 (Post 894070)
... This whole thread is just embarrassing.
This thread illustrates what can happen when one upset person makes a remark and someone runs with it. It makes no difference how accurate or inaccurate the original remark was, once it loses it's original context it takes on a life of its own.

Thread history: A person, not a Nokia employee as far as can be told, made a bugzilla remark indicating Nokia was no longer supporting Maemo5. That remark then re-surfaced here and the fun began.

ironm8 2010-12-10 15:20
Re: Nokia finishes Maemo5 support
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by benny1967 (Post 894070)
Now as far as I remember, Nokia did tell us that the N900 would not be supported for long. They told me even before the N900 was released. They informed me about the next iteration of the OS (that was already in the making then), they told me it was due in late 2010 and that in would not run on the N900s hardware. So when I bought my N900, I expected active development until roughly Sept 2010.

About the price: You don't know anything about the price. Maybe they did sell it for less. Maybe under different circumstances they'd have sold it for €800,- and we got it cheaper because it's a public beta device (as they told us).

Anyway. The N900 isn't dead. Nokia will support it as long as they're obliged to do so according to national laws (which usually depends on when youi bought it, not when they launched it). This whole thread is just embarrassing.
i did a really extensive search before buying my n900, so i knew it was for me. But i heard nowhere about a "shortened time support".
Even here, when i bought it in April there was no sign for it.
Only when nokia announced Meego not for n900 it all this started.

About the price, lets use logic. Palm Pre was out at about the time and had under its hood more or less the same hardware as the N900.
Same goes for the Droid/Milestone. All those had the same price tag more or less. So no, we didnt get a "beta" discount.

cfh11 2010-12-10 15:28
Re: Nokia finishes Maemo5 support
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ironm8 (Post 894078)
About the price, lets use logic. Palm Pre was out at about the time and had under its hood more or less the same hardware as the N900.
Same goes for the Droid/Milestone. All those had the same price tag more or less. So no, we didnt get a "beta" discount.
because its not a "beta" device


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