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-   -   Further discussion of Nokia's support for Maemo 5 (was: Nokia finishes Maemo5 support) (https://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=66767)

ironm8 2010-12-11 13:13
Re: Nokia finishes Maemo5 support
 
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Originally Posted by daperl (Post 894623)
You proved his point. Did you actually read the page? Very first word:

RAW
really? "raw"? thats your proof?

lets go together of the DICTIONARY definitions of the word raw!
Quote:
1. Being in a natural condition; not processed or refined
hmmm ok, thats seems like it. oh but wait! theres something else!
Quote:
10. Powerfully impressive; stark: raw beauty; raw talent.
So really, which definition do you think nokia had in mind?!
which definition do you think I had in mind?!
I think they are the same.

so as Thomas Gray once said, "ignorance is bliss".

EDIT: just wondering, in which section of an electronics store is the n900 is being sold in? computers? tablets? NO! hence your point is invalid!

daperl 2010-12-11 13:21
Re: Nokia finishes Maemo5 support
 
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Originally Posted by ironm8 (Post 894626)
so as Thomas Gray once said, "ignorance is bliss".
You don't seem very blissful.

Frappacino 2010-12-11 13:29
Re: Nokia finishes Maemo5 support
 
Read this

http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...2&postcount=51

JavisPedros very succint summary of the Nokia marketing process

If you dont like this process, move onto another brand.

Nokia will not change while this spins $$$ for them (hey it worked for 4 devices already !)

I wish more ppl were cynical on TMO and less evangelists were around - would have saved many newbies from getting burnt.

ironm8 2010-12-11 13:35
Re: Nokia finishes Maemo5 support
 
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Originally Posted by daperl (Post 894630)
You don't seem very blissful.
i'm sorry it came out like that.
I just dont like it when people side the corporations even when its obvious that the corporation did something wrong. Unless your are a Nokia empoyee and then your subjectivity would be logical.

ironm8 2010-12-11 13:38
Re: Nokia finishes Maemo5 support
 
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Originally Posted by Frappacino (Post 894637)
If you dont like this process, move onto another brand.

I wish more ppl were cynical on TMO and less evangelists were around - would have saved many newbies from getting burnt.
hey, i have no problem with the phone, i went well past the obvious Nokia marketing before i bought mine.
I said all this for those who didnt.

ysss 2010-12-11 13:39
Re: Nokia finishes Maemo5 support
 
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Originally Posted by benny1967 (Post 894580)
You do understand that in the 5-step-plan, only step 5 would be a mass-market product that is ready for the average end user. step 4 ist not considered ready for the mass market (or the typical end user). - this is where your analogy fails: yes, every consumer electronic product is a step to the next... but only very few are designed to not reach the mass market, to not please the crowds, to be an incomplete concept device for geeks and enthusiasts. This is the one point that you didn't get.
Reading your description, it's as if you're describing some archaic development platform which are restricted from the public. And if one is to blame nokia's 'distribution partners' for oh, so successfully distributing the n900 to the hands of unworthy masses, shouldn't Nokia do something to stop that mistake?

Who's accountable for what?

kureyon 2010-12-11 14:26
Re: Nokia finishes Maemo5 support
 
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Originally Posted by RFS-81 (Post 894597)
So what should they say there? "If you are only interested in devices that will be sold in millions, please go away thx bye!"
I don't think quantity sold is the issue.

Something along the lines of

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"This is a device for beta testers. Any bugs found and reported will most likely not be fixed, and in the cases where bugs are fixed they will most likely be only available on the next version of the OS which incidentally will most likely be engineered to be incompatible with this device so as to encourage you to dump this device as soon as a new one comes along - whenever that might be"
would make things pretty clear ;)

daperl 2010-12-11 14:28
Re: Nokia finishes Maemo5 support
 
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Originally Posted by ironm8 (Post 894644)
i'm sorry it came out like that.
I just dont like it when people side the corporations even when its obvious that the corporation did something wrong. Unless your are a Nokia empoyee and then your subjectivity would be logical.
The n900 is a supercharged n810 with a cellular radio. You've been here since June, do you even know what an n810 is?

It's a newly forming open source world, and Nokia has put themselves on the bleeding edge of it. Have they done a good job? I'd give 'em anything from a C- to a C+. If they'd release all their Maemo source (the ultimate support), I'd give them an A-. There's no magnetometer in the n900, so they can't get the A.

ironm8 2010-12-11 14:53
Re: Nokia finishes Maemo5 support
 
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Originally Posted by daperl (Post 894671)
The n900 is a supercharged n810 with a cellular radio. You've been here since June, do you even know what an n810 is?
So you say that the n900 is really a n820? give me a break.

does an n810 can get easily into your pocket? no.
does the n810 has cellular radio? no.
arnt those two characteristic crucial? arnt they alone enough to change the device definition? i choose yes, you choose no.
so lets agree to disagree.

daperl 2010-12-11 15:12
Re: Nokia finishes Maemo5 support
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ironm8 (Post 894683)
So you say that the n900 is really a n820? give me a break.

does an n810 can get easily into your pocket? no.
does the n810 has cellular radio? no.
arnt those two characteristic crucial? arnt they alone enough to change the device definition? i choose yes, you choose no.
so lets agree to disagree.
No, you disagree with Nokia. I could give a sh*t.


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