Re: [Announce] bleeding-edge wl1251 wifi driver for Maemo Fremantle
 

I have already asked Titan to compile cfg80211 as module (the only change in the custom power kernel), so most likely a custom power-kernel will not be necessary in the future.
I am planning to release updated wl1251 modules to all donators for new power-kernel versions.

That will not be easily possible, because the patches are based on wireless-testing / compat-wireless and don't apply directly on the wl12xx driver.
In the long term I think it would be best if we get a compat-wireless package for the power-kernel, which then also includes a packet injection capable wl1251 driver.
Additionally we would also get better support for USB wifi cards.

I am definitively trying to get the patches accepted upstream, so non-Maemo and non-N900 wl1251 users could also profit.
Nevertheless I am not planning to openly release the compiled wl1251 modules, but as mentioned above I hope we will get a compat-wireless package in the long term.
I don't want to develop such a package on my own, as I am not very familiar with the USB stuff. If there are any other developers who are interested in such a package, please contact me.

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Dear LXP your hard work make me so proud of you. i dont have worked ever in C++ i dont know how to compile or waht it is:confused: and other stuff but what i can, is do INJEKTION and this is your work. i mean what, what the fu** YESSSSSS! love backtrack and the other stuff of linux. on n900 aircrack kismet nmap wireshark metasploit work, WOW you have round up the wohle package. WOWOWOWOWWW this is amazig had no problems to install. everything works inklusive with multiboot i set up works perfekt. in a few days you get a donate from me twicetime i promise :D this is unbeliveble.. know i like my n900 more than before!!!! BIG THANKS TO YOU from GERMANY. sorry my bad english:o
who needs NEOPWN this is all we need

Re: [Announce] bleeding-edge wl1251 wifi driver for Maemo Fremantle
 

awesome, i'll be donating when i get home then :)

Re: [Announce] bleeding-edge wl1251 wifi driver for Maemo Fremantle
 

if you would be a very nice person you would ask Titan to include this in the next power kernel...your asking for "donations"... a donation isn't obligatory but you are forcing everyone to pay for it so in my opinion you should set a price on this or be a very nice person and contribute to the growth of this community.....(if i look back to neopwn, everyone paid for almost nothing...where do we know that this time is not the same?)

Re: [Announce] bleeding-edge wl1251 wifi driver for Maemo Fremantle
 

lxp is not neopwn... He is just the developer not the distributor. Also you could see through the feedbacks ;)

Re: [Announce] bleeding-edge wl1251 wifi driver for Maemo Fremantle
 

Btw, even though i suggested you provide a direct link for downloading it, if you had a bank account on Brazil i could make a deposit, otherwise i don't think i have a way to send money to ya :/

Re: [Announce] bleeding-edge wl1251 wifi driver for Maemo Fremantle
 

okay one question i got.
if i want to remove some packages programs i have to install the normal osso-wlan but when i do apt-get -f install osso wlan it wont do it.
it says the following packages have unmet dependencies:
mp-fremantle-generic-pr:depends: osslo-wlan(=3.0.20+0m5) but (3.0.20+0m5-1) is to be installed

what can i do:confused:

Re: [Announce] bleeding-edge wl1251 wifi driver for Maemo Fremantle
 

edit the control file and update the version to remove the extraneous version "-1".

Re: [Announce] bleeding-edge wl1251 wifi driver for Maemo Fremantle
 

Ha lol sorry dont understand what you say:( i dont get it. can you please a little more spezific. maybe some bash? ala apt-get...... please

Re: [Announce] bleeding-edge wl1251 wifi driver for Maemo Fremantle
 

Thank you for your donation.
I am going to look into the ad-hoc problem soon.
AP mode may be possible to implement, I will add that to my todo list. We are not really stuck at 2.6.28 wifi stack. This driver already uses compat-wireless to backport the bleeding-edge wifi stack to the 2.6.28 kernel.

I think wire transfer would be a little bit costly for small donations. Do you have other suggestions?

As I have written in my previous post it is not trivial to "include it in the next power kernel".
If you read my blog clearly, you should know why I am doing this.
Here again the hard facts (and maybe harder than ever before):
I developed packet injection for Neopwn, only because of Neopwn and haven't received any of the promised money. If Neopwn hadn't asked me to develop it, I wouldn't have done it and most likely nobody would have a working packet injection so far. I would have spent my summer working in a usual summer job.
Now as all that happened (I developed packet injection, haven't got any money, Neopwn is dead and only binary drivers are floating around), I am going to make the best out of it for all of us.
I am releasing the packet injection driver under correct GPL terms, so that the work can be reused and I am trying to get the patches accepted upstream, while I am forcing donations to get some money out of the time I spent for developing, which I otherwise would have spent at a summer job. I don't like the idea of forcing donations myself, especially after what happened with Neopwn, but I think it's the only way to at least cover the development costs a bit. I am not charging a fixed price, as I appreciate any donation. I am trusting you (the community) to donate what it is worth to you and what you can afford. I really like the community and open source in general. If I would have developed packet injection under other circumstances, it would be very different for me. Just look at the monitor mode patch -- I developed it in my free time, because I liked to have a working monitor mode and I shared it with all of you without asking for donations.
I hope now you really understand, why I am doing this.

Re: [Announce] bleeding-edge wl1251 wifi driver for Maemo Fremantle
 

Yes this is a problem for many of us who cannot PayPal.

It points out a big hole in the whole Open-Source arena,
what is needed is an credible market player to
make a trans-national market framework for such kinds of transactions.

The terms PayPal and credible do not belong in the same sentence.

Things like OVI store and all the other stores
are geared toward mass-market developers.

One of the things Nokia seems to be flirting with is SMS banking
which would be ideal for such a thing if it ever happens.

Anyways,
when I get back from the jungle I would hope to make such a donation myself.

Re: [Announce] bleeding-edge wl1251 wifi driver for Maemo Fremantle
 

No sorry, I don't have a bank account in Brazil.

Hmm, I thought you only would run into that problem if you update to another firmware version. Like I have written in the readme, you would have to downgrade osso-wlan first, afterwards you could eventually reinstall the modified osso-wlan.
hawaii's idea is not that bad for personal use, when you know what you do, but it is a little bit too hacky for my taste, so that I wouldn't like to provide such a package.

So the instructions for downgrading would be:

* Download http://repository.maemo.org/pool/mae...+0m5_armel.deb to your MyDocs directory

* Open X Terminal

* Gain root access
$ sudo gainroot

* Downgrade osso-wlan
# cd MyDocs
# dpkg -i osso-wlan_3.0.20+0m5_armel.deb

* Now all should work as usual again

Reinstallation of the modified version works as described in the readme. Moreover as stated in the readme the modified osso-wlan package is not essential, nevertheless it fixes a bug.

Re: [Announce] bleeding-edge wl1251 wifi driver for Maemo Fremantle
 

this my confirmation number 48945019RK345591R, thanks

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Question: Much like normal power kernel, I should be able to make and flash a uboot image with this kernel image, correct? Just install everything as per readme, then extract the zImage of the kernel from the .deb, convert to uImage with mkimage, and append to the uboot image, and flash that as new kernel, correct?

Re: [Announce] bleeding-edge wl1251 wifi driver for Maemo Fremantle
 

Donations are meant to be optional, yes?

Open source hey?

Re: [Announce] bleeding-edge wl1251 wifi driver for Maemo Fremantle
 

There's nothing incompatible with open source that he's doing. You get access to the source as well as the binaries, and much like routers running Linux, you can sell/force-donation software that's GPL'ed, so long as you give people the rights that the GPL entitles you to. Which does not include getting it for free. Just being able to see the source code, and modify it, so long as you then let others see your source code and modifications to those you distribute it to.

He's just making you donate before you get it (from him - if anyone else felt like putting it up, they'd be a bit dickish, but not really illegally acting), which, given that this project originally was a service purchased by someone else, for which he was promised a hefty amount of money, it makes sense that lxp would want to recoup that.

He wasn't really under any obligation to release it, and if he hadn't, we'd all still be sitting around either desperately clawing for the NeoPwn2 driver binaries, or hoping for more driver mods from someone else.

Re: [Announce] bleeding-edge wl1251 wifi driver for Maemo Fremantle
 

No. Dickish, but might not be really illegal is a description of lxp and whoever did download from him and did not upload the source to a publicly available place (or at leaset send the source to power kernel maintainer, so he can include it).

If a wlan driver has a cost, how much should the whole power kernel cost? How much should 9 homescreens cost? How much of a community would we have if everyone tried to nickel and dime everyone else?

Re: [Announce] bleeding-edge wl1251 wifi driver for Maemo Fremantle
 

Where is the source code?

Re: [Announce] bleeding-edge wl1251 wifi driver for Maemo Fremantle
 

I mightve donated if I currently had a job and if I knew what I was "buying"...............

Re: [Announce] bleeding-edge wl1251 wifi driver for Maemo Fremantle
 

Also, I think I'm the first one who's mentioned this on this thread, so:

I get the following error when running the kernel-power-flasher-....deb part of the install:

The file in the above error, hildon-input-method-configurator.sudoers contains this (I don't know what it's supposed to contain or was to contain before, and in all my time seeing people talk about problems on this forum, I've never seen this kind of bug crop up):
The feedback dpkg printed out while installing it indicated that the flashing itself went fine. Just this last ending part seems to have triggered an error. I'm hoping someone technically knowledgeable can at least point me in the right direct - I don't mind figuring out problems on my own, but I don't really know where to go right now. (Looking for the post install stuff in the flasher right now, hopefully it will explain something.)

Main question is, are these errors perfectly fine and worth ignoring, or will the N900 be bricked if I reboot? Thanks in advance to anyone who takes the time to point out what the issue is.

Re: [Announce] bleeding-edge wl1251 wifi driver for Maemo Fremantle
 

Thank you for this lxp. Made the donation, hope to get the links soon.. :)..

Re: [Announce] bleeding-edge wl1251 wifi driver for Maemo Fremantle
 

I sorta see your point, but didn't he say just a page or two ago that he's pushed his patches upstream, and that he did say that he's trying to get Titan to include the cfg80211 to the slightly-altered included power kernel.

http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...3&postcount=41
http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...2&postcount=50

I agree, it's not ideal. I also think lxp has made it pretty obvious he doesn't like the idea of forcing donations in the long run. But he also made this thing for a project he was promised a large sum of money for, and he could have easily just tossed away the code after NeoPwn didn't pay him, and not bothered to release it. Yet he did, after spending extra time fixing up even more issues.

My opinion on it, is that asking for a forced donation is an acceptable (tough not ideal) move in a perfect world where everyone has enough money, and means to conveniently deliver it to the person being 'donated' to. This isn't a perfect world through, and just as someone understanding of psychology and sociology, I know that sometime soon, someone will post this stuff up publicly. People did it for NeoPwn2 and they'll do it here. However, where-as with NeoPwn2 it was sorta more understandable, because NeoPwn2 didn't give the source code out, or anything else. The NeoPwn2 project was one you HAD to use as was, and rely on the dev for future improvements. Lxp, however, is offering the source with the donation, and unlike NeoPwn2's 40$, this is anything you can / choose to pay, for both the precompiled binaries and the sources. He is also pushing the source upstream, which, if I understand the way these open source code/garage/repository/submitting-contributions thingies works, means you can find where-ever wl1251 development happens, and SEE the source code lxp submitted.

My personal opinion is that while it may not be exactly the best thing to do to force donations, it's also not in the completely positive to just post this up elsewhere, because unlike NeoPwn2, this is a lot closer to typical open-source (and still fits within the constraints of legal GPL stuff.)

But from the standpoint of someone well versed in psychology, sociology, and history, my suggestion to lxp is to just switch to the non-forced-donation approach. Or the result will be similar to the NeoPwn one in the long-run. Someone else will eventually post this online - it might not be any better than forcing donations in the first place; in fact they're about the same in my eyes - and if someone else does it before you, lxp, do, then the majority of the users will be anal about it and skip donating entirely. The end result is similar - those of us who wish to donate will - you'll get a couple like me who care about injection enough that the priority of donating vs. saving money jumps up enough to do it now (where-as I wait for some of my other eventually-intended donations) - but for the most part, you'll have the same amount of people donating, as not. The only difference is, at the end of the day, you're either the person who accepted that the result is going to be unfair for you either way, and went with the more ethical choice for everyone else in spite of that, or you tried to get the fair result for yourself, only to have the not ethically ideal masses of the not ethically ideal world react against you.

I think in the short run, it's a hard decision to make because in the upcoming couple of weeks, you're likely to get more donations than you would have gotten from just releasing it. In the long run however, the likelyhood is, total donations, and total goodwill from the mob I suspect may arise on this thread, much like it did on the NeoPwn2 one, will be a lot less.

I'm not saying it's right that circumstances should cut you out of the money you were promised when making this project originally, and as far as I'm concerned, everyone should donate regardless (out of their own altruism - which they should have - not because it's right for them to pay for the failure of others to pay). You know where I stand - I donated, not sure if it was more or less than the average amount people give; I'm not privy to what the norm for such projects is - but it was enough that I had to use some willpower to part with it.

*Shrug* IDK, just my slightly-more-than-two cents on the subject. Things might work out better here, because you, lxp, have a better reputation on this forum, and are keeping a much more open project running, than the NeoPwn2 project was. I hope so. In a world where money is a necessity for survival, you certainly deserve some for the time put in to developing this (so did NeoPwn2's dev, unfortunately, but things worked out even more poorly there).

I think, sadly, the harder-to-accept-for-oneself-as-a-money-needing-student choice is the better one, both for you in the long run, and for all those right now who can't donate even though they would like to due to lack of compatibility with paypal, or a lack of expendable funds, etc. I would like to think, but unfortunately know it probably won't happen, that you would recoup all of the costs promised by NeoPwn2 for this work.

Re: [Announce] bleeding-edge wl1251 wifi driver for Maemo Fremantle
 

I have bee following the neopwn-debacle closely albeit from the side line. Luckiliy I ran into the thread on that project late enough not to have donated but I would love to have packet injection included. Another Nokia fail, I guess...

That being said, I must admit that my initial reaction was quite cynical when I read this thread, yesterday. Yes, I understand you need the money and yes I understand the frustration with Neopwn, but I do have some problems with your argumentation towards the forced donation. After all, your problem with Neopwn is between you and Neopwn. And your relation with your new userbase has nothing to do with Neopwn, really. So to combine these two things is not a reasonable line of thought, I believe. But that´s not the point I wanted to share.

So, I will not download your driver (or get it from someone else), as I am "in between jobs" and there for not able to donate, apart from the principal issue I have, as mentioned above. But I do respect your efforts. Normally I have no moral problems taking what I need for free (within certain limits), but this time I will wait to use PI untill this driver becomes available in the free domain.

Thanks for your efforts.

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I haven't donated yet since I'm not sure if I really need this driver; I can see all the benefits and the fun, but I can see (as proven here already) the potential problems.

It is like being in a hamburger restaurant; I know that if I want that burger I can donate my money to the cashier and get the hamburger. Or I can go home and do it by myself. My friends could come in also and might even donate me something for having such a tasty burger. Or they might not.

The first case is clearly a business with all the responsibilities; ie. I can have my money back if the burger is not what I ordered.

What I mean is that even though being under GPL, when done this way, this is bying a service / driver. To give the customer the freedom to set the price does not change the fact.

But it is admirable that you are wiling to share this freely (eventually) with everyone!

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I believe the best thing to do in a situation like this is for the council to set up a fund for donations. Then we could have a bounty system for community sponsored work and software requests...
Thanks again lxp for contributing to Maemo/Meego and promising to try to incorporate your changes upstream!!!! :-)

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THANKS @t LXP that worked, before i searched the web but didnt found a download for the package, that helped.

@t the guys who dont want donate.come on dont be silly give it a shot this dont hurt anyone. it was x-mas you have money and you can supporting the man for his hard work! when you dont want donate please take your time and make some code on your own and spent all your freetime!!!!!!! for that so please dont be so rediculus this man is a awsome person how can make that possible it cant be true you all so angry. this man is not neopwn he will give you the link right after your donation.

Re: [Announce] bleeding-edge wl1251 wifi driver for Maemo Fremantle
 

i want to donate but i dont have a paypal account. infact paypal is not available in my country. what the f**k do i do?? i need this driver badly:mad:

Re: [Announce] bleeding-edge wl1251 wifi driver for Maemo Fremantle
 

Could you please give a clearer description of what your package does, and what you (the community) could use it for? Therefore, meaning the value for end users/ slightly novice users like me. Packet injection is what you mentioned, what my guessing is, it is useful for getting a wifi password or something?

I am interested in this, if this can finally make my school's WPA+EAP (PEAP) connection stable, and able to autoconnect just like my other wifi access points.

I am sure I am not the only one who is unsure of what this package can do for us, you might get more customers ;)

Re: [Announce] bleeding-edge wl1251 wifi driver for Maemo Fremantle
 

Hi lxp,

I have donated (more of a "thank you" for the work you've done than because I personally need this)

Do you have any plans of making it free/gratis after you receive a certain amount of donations? You don't have to tell us what your minimum amount is; just wondering what your plans are :)

Re: [Announce] bleeding-edge wl1251 wifi driver for Maemo Fremantle
 

I haven't seen this problem before. My /etc/sudoers.d/hildon-input-method-configurator.sudoers also contains exactly the same. Maybe the problem doesn't lie in this file directly. Have you checked the /etc/sudoers file on line 72 or some lines before?
The problem seems to pop up, when the postinst script executes update-sudoers, so you may get the same error when you execute it manually. Moreover update-sudoers is a shell script so you can simply look at the source at /usr/sbin/update-sudoers.
Looking in it shows that it executes visudo -c after every file it adds to the new combined sudoers file (temp file). So you may check your sudoers.d files manually by executing:
I should note that this command also shows syntax errors on my phone, so maybe it is not the best way to check each file on its own.
The sudoers syntax is described in its detail in the man page. I could recommend to take a look at the examples chapter nearly the end of the man page.
I have no direct solution to your problem, but I hope I could point you in the right direction.

Re: [Announce] bleeding-edge wl1251 wifi driver for Maemo Fremantle
 

I made it - donated.
Do not use spaces in IBAN.

It would be nice if after collecting money you want, you cold relase it for free for people who cant afford or have problem with money transfers.

Great work and thankyou. Cant wait to play with new driver.

Re: [Announce] bleeding-edge wl1251 wifi driver for Maemo Fremantle
 

Downloading right now ...

ARP Replay @ ~ 150 - 250 PPS :D

Re: [Announce] bleeding-edge wl1251 wifi driver for Maemo Fremantle
 

@t dekin
maybe you could buy a PAYSAFE-CARD at your gas station and send lxp the code of the card or ask him to spend him a prepaid card code for his handy if he has prepaid or ask him, maybe he want a itunes^^ musik gift coupon and send this per PN to him ask him maybe its a way outside of paypal for you.

:)

before i forget LXP today i was at my bank a little more few days than i will payyyyyypalll twice for you:D

Re: [Announce] bleeding-edge wl1251 wifi driver for Maemo Fremantle
 

@lxp: I did check the sudoers file in question, nothing looked odd there. I decided to take a risk and reboot sometime last night, everything booted up fine. Haven't had time to test injection but I have not noticed problems since the reboot, so I'm sure the sudoers thing wasn't a serious problem.

Thanks for the help though. Hearing that you get syntax error messages when running that command too is reassuring.

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Re: [Announce] bleeding-edge wl1251 wifi driver for Maemo Fremantle
 

Hey, it's fine to have a donate button, but you shouldn't force donations, maemo is supposed to be an open source and free os where all of the community helps each other whereby they develop and distribute software free of charge, if everyone did what you're doing, then maemo would be just another crappy platform like apple ios where you either have to pay for apps or be constantly spammed with annoying ads. But also I would like to say thank you for the hard work and I understand your situation, I just don't agree with the method by which you are distributing the software. :)

Re: [Announce] bleeding-edge wl1251 wifi driver for Maemo Fremantle
 

I just wonder why so many think FOSS means Free as in free beer.

I also wonder if all this quite annoying rant has to go here to this thread.
The new thread mentioned 1 post above looks more suited for such a basic discussion.

One last word: there's been a time where Suse and other distro maintainers SOLD the whole linux OS, while actually their own contribution was marginal. There's absolutely *nothing* wrong with asking for money when selling code developed for linux, even less when you ship the sourcecode together with the binaries.
Dudes, even hosting isn't for free. Shall LXP pay for offering his brilliant work to you? Get a brain!

/jOERG

Re: [Announce] bleeding-edge wl1251 wifi driver for Maemo Fremantle
 

So i can donate what ever i want and after that i can download that driver? correct?

Does it work with custom power kernel with overclock?

What are the best 'features' or reasons of use of this driver?

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Re: [Announce] bleeding-edge wl1251 wifi driver for Maemo Fremantle
 

It didnt directly answer about overclocking. Blog mentioned that it is based on "updated power kernel (based on power46)", but still not 100% sure :)