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Joseph.skb 2010-12-30 11:44
Could this solve our 3G video call needs?
 
Quote:
Skype adding WiFi, 3G video-calling to iPhone app

SAN FRANCISCO: A new version of the free iPhone app for Skype SA will let users make and receive video calls. Users of the Internet calling and messaging service will be able to use both WiFi and 3G cellular networks. FaceTime software, which comes with iPhones, works only with WiFi.

The app, which is being released through Apple Inc's App Store, will let iPhone 4 and iPhone 3GS users make free video calls to other Skype users who are using the app or have access to the feature using Skype on their computer or other videophone.

Those with the latest iPod touch will be able to make video calls over WiFi. The app allows the iPad and previous-generation iPod touch to receive video calls, too, Skype said.

Skype's software offers free services such as voice or video calls to other Skype users. Users pay to do things such as make calls from a PC to a landline or cellphone.

This is not the first third-party app for the iPhone to allow free video calling over a cellular network. Apps such as Fring and Tango offer the capability as well, although neither has as many users as Skype. - AP
Could we also tweak the current Skype for 3G video calling?

Rauha 2010-12-30 11:57
Re: Could this solve our 3G video call needs?
 
Skype is video chatting, not video calling. You can't dial anyones number to reach them. Still need Skype clients and accounts on both ends.

Joseph.skb 2010-12-30 12:00
Re: Could this solve our 3G video call needs?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rauha (Post 907461)
Skype is video chatting, not video calling. You can't dial anyones number to reach them. Still need Skype clients and accounts on both ends.
According to AP,
Quote:
A new version of the free iPhone app for Skype SA will let users make and receive video calls.
sounds like video calling...not video chatting.

joppu 2010-12-30 12:05
Re: Could this solve our 3G video call needs?
 
It's about the video calling over HTTP, not traditional cell network protocols.

Also the current Skype on N900 does support video calls over 3g.

Rauha 2010-12-30 12:05
Re: Could this solve our 3G video call needs?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Joseph.skb (Post 907465)
According to AP, sounds like video calling...not video chatting.
No, it sounds like video chatting renamed as video calling by marketeers.


Quote:
Originally Posted by joppu (Post 907467)
It's about the video calling over HTTP, not traditional cell network protocols.
In that case my iMac is a phone that makes phonecalls. I suppose that the term calling can be applied to any kind of communication, but my definition will still require phone number being used and no 3rd party software requirements.

joppu 2010-12-30 12:12
Re: Could this solve our 3G video call needs?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rauha (Post 907468)
In that case my iMac is a phone that makes phonecalls. I suppose that the term calling can be applied to any kind of communication, but my definition will still require phone number being used and no 3rd party software requirements.
The article, that is about HTTP streaming over skype through 3g. Joseph.skb is assuming that to be synonymous with traditional 3g video call, which obviously isn't the case.

Joseph.skb 2010-12-30 12:13
Re: Could this solve our 3G video call needs?
 
Maybe I'm just too desperate for 3G video calling that I'm intepreting this as new Skype video calling???

Quote:
A new version of the free iPhone app for Skype SA will let users make and receive video calls. Users of the Internet calling and messaging service will be able to use both WiFi and 3G cellular networks. FaceTime software, which comes with iPhones, works only with WiFi.
:confused:

Edit to add:

And since the N900 already beat iPhone with the Skype video call/chat, perhaps we could tweak it for our 3G video calling??? (i'm hoping)

joppu 2010-12-30 12:15
Re: Could this solve our 3G video call needs?
 
I can connect my laptop running Skype to a 3g dongle and make video calls over over 3g. There's nothing new in the announcement. That's just the iPhone finally getting the same functionality.

bernd 2010-12-30 12:24
Re: Could this solve our 3G video call needs?
 
5minutes ago i tried to make a skype videochat with a iphone 4. The iphone was shown as available for videochat on my n900 but doesn't get it to work.

Joseph.skb 2010-12-30 12:27
Re: Could this solve our 3G video call needs?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by bernd (Post 907489)
5minutes ago i tried to make a skype videochat with a iphone 4. The iphone was shown as available for videochat on my n900 but doesn't get it to work.
Must be the iPhone's problem :D

bernd 2010-12-30 12:35
Re: Could this solve our 3G video call needs?
 
I think so X-D but I recognized skype videochat on the n900 isn't always 100% stable

Tedri Mark 2010-12-30 12:50
Re: Could this solve our 3G video call needs?
 
Number of years I've had a phone capable of video calls: 5

Number of times I've wanted to make a video call: 0

Joseph.skb 2010-12-30 12:53
Re: Could this solve our 3G video call needs?
 
It's cheaper here than Skype over Wifi (with data charges). And almost all my friends are NOT on Skype all the time. Still hoping and voting for 3G video calling with N900!

cfh11 2010-12-30 14:17
Re: Could this solve our 3G video call needs?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by joppu (Post 907467)
It's about the video calling over HTTP, not traditional cell network protocols.

Also the current Skype on N900 does support video calls over 3g.
??.. I have used Skype over 3g to make video calls with the n900

shadowjk 2010-12-30 20:05
Re: Could this solve our 3G video call needs?
 
Skype supports video calls over internet. Internet goes over 3g.
N900 Skype - tcp/ip - 3g - tcp/ip - Skype

What people mean is video calls that you dial like a normal phone number, without internet.
Phone - 3G - Phone

The difference is, skype is like email, 3g video calling is likw mms.

With skype or gtalk and similar, you need to know someone's skype name. With 3g video calling you use someone's telephone number, like when you send a sms or mms.

People arguing skype and whatever brings 3g video calling are saying approximately the equivalent thing as saying that email fixes a hypothetical missing sms and mms support.
Yes, email "does the same thing" as sms and mms, and we can send email "over 3g", but it's not the same thing obviosuly.

mattbutsko 2010-12-30 22:12
Re: Could this solve our 3G video call needs?
 
Quote:
Skype on N900 does support video calls over 3g
Then I must have a god sent N900, because I can do this.

James_Littler 2010-12-30 22:15
Re: Could this solve our 3G video call needs?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mattbutsko (Post 907917)
Then I must have a god sent N900, because I can do this.
No you can't.
You can skype using mobile internet provided over a 3g connection.

rmerren 2010-12-30 22:25
Re: Could this solve our 3G video call needs?
 
Talking about the dial-your-phone-number-see-your-face version of this semantic battle: is there a dominant standard for that type of 3G video call? Is there something that AT&T, T-mobile, Verizon, Orange, Deutsche, Ma Bell, and Taco Bell will all carry and interpret if the phones just did it right? If the N900 did include this feature, could I use it today?

Joseph.skb 2010-12-30 23:41
Re: Could this solve our 3G video call needs?
 
So, with all that explanation on how Skype + 3G works, how do we explain this AP article? From what you guys are saying, it sounds like what we have NOW. So what could be new (A new version of the free iPhone app for Skype SA will let users make and receive video calls)?

Quote:
SAN FRANCISCO: A new version of the free iPhone app for Skype SA will let users make and receive video calls. Users of the Internet calling and messaging service will be able to use both WiFi and 3G cellular networks. FaceTime software, which comes with iPhones, works only with WiFi.

The app, which is being released through Apple Inc's App Store, will let iPhone 4 and iPhone 3GS users make free video calls to other Skype users who are using the app or have access to the feature using Skype on their computer or other videophone.

This is not the first third-party app for the iPhone to allow free video calling over a cellular network. Apps such as Fring and Tango offer the capability as well, although neither has as many users as Skype. - AP
So, I'm wondering if Skype will release some new video calling feature and if we could get that on the N900 to close the issue on our 3G video call!

James_Littler 2010-12-30 23:51
Re: Could this solve our 3G video call needs?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Joseph.skb (Post 907965)
So, with all that explanation on how Skype + 3G works, how do we explain this AP article? From what you guys are saying, it sounds like what we have NOW. So what could be new (A new version of the free iPhone app for Skype SA will let users make and receive video calls)?



So, I'm wondering if Skype will release some new video calling feature and if we could get that on the N900 to close the issue on our 3G video call!
I dont understand what you're asking.

"Will an application we already have bring support we don't have when it's released (which it already is)!?"

Skype is not video calling. No matter what connection it is using it is VOIP and as such is using the internet.

PS a jailbroken iPhone can facetime using a 3g internet connection in exactly the same manner.

sjgadsby 2010-12-31 01:02
Re: Could this solve our 3G video call needs?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Joseph.skb (Post 907965)
So, with all that explanation on how Skype + 3G works, how do we explain this AP article?
News about the iPhone is exciting. It must be shared with the world.

Quote:
So what could be new (A new version of the free iPhone app for Skype SA will let users make and receive video calls)?
Previous versions of Skype on iPhone couldn't do video. The new version can.

Quote:
So, I'm wondering if Skype will release some new video calling feature and if we could get that on the N900 to close the issue on our 3G video call!
We've had this new feature. For more than a year.

Joseph.skb 2010-12-31 09:24
Re: Could this solve our 3G video call needs?
 
Wow! I'm confused now :(

I decided to check Skype website http://www.skype.com/intl/en/get-sky...cmp=ch1-iphone

Here's what the 'marketing' says:
With other Skype users you can:
Make free Skype-to-Skype voice and video calls over 3G and WiFi.

So, I'm guessing two things;
1) Somehow, Skype voice and video call will be enabled through 3G???
2) Maybe this (new) application will become standard for all new phones and we could have (skype) video call without data charges??? (re-defining 3G video call)

Well, a Happy New Year 2011 to all you folks! Hopefully we'll get 3G video call and many more great apps soon :D

Quasar 2010-12-31 10:14
Re: Could this solve our 3G video call needs?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Joseph.skb (Post 908198)
So, I'm guessing two things;
1) Somehow, Skype voice and video call will be enabled through 3G???
2) Maybe this (new) application will become standard for all new phones and we could have (skype) video call without data charges??? (re-defining 3G video call)
Are you serious or are you joking?
Your numbers:

1) we already have it
2) I think, you don't fully understand, what was written on skype's website.


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