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Re: N900, Adobe Flash 10 and Nokia bad management

nokia is a dumbphone company. Nobady likes them but they dont care...

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Re: N900, Adobe Flash 10 and Nokia bad management

great thread. keep em coming

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slender, thanks for a link to post by quole, this was informative reading.

jakiman, I'm talking about hardware-accelerated flash videos, not version spoofing.

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Wow. This went downhill in record time.

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Lotta *******s hit this thread hard, anyway, I completely agree with the original poster.

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Originally Posted by Borgia (Post 907880)

Adobe has showed fully hardware accelerated Flash Player 10.1 running on Nokia N900 on October 05, 2009.

Since then, Texas Instruments has even published optimized for ARM Cortex-A8 Flash 10 binaries on it's website. (Which are not publicly available for download.)

N900 is a great device, but it's Flash support is crap. With Adobe Flash 9, which is the latest available version, I am able to play only about 20% of the flash wideos on the net. I ask myself, why Nokia didn't include Adobe Flash 10.1 in it's recent software updates?

Needless to say, I'm really disappointed by this issue and I can only guess it's cause. I think that when Nokia management decided to abandon ARM platform altogether, they probably didn't want to pay Adobe for it's latest hardware optimizations.

And we, the people who bought N900, are the only one to loose. When I buy flagship device, I expect flagship support, which is definitely not the one I see coming from Nokia.

Since most of the Maemo software is opensource, we can fix lots of the issues on our own, but Adobe Flash is proprietary software, with it we are left to the tender mercies of Nokia and Adobe.

Ironically, current N900 Flash is older and slower than Adobe Flash on Android devices on the same processor. Google probably cares about it's customers a little more.

Ahem, let's attempt to clear up some of the many misconceptions in this post.

1) It is very likely that not only was the fabled Oct 2009 Adobe demo not hardware accelerated (since a hardware accelerated version for ARM still does not exist) it may not have even been Flash 10.

2) The Flash 10 developer plugin from TI is crap. It performs even worse than the version n900 has.

3) I don't know what videos youre watching (p0rn maybe?) but I would say more like 80% work for me with tweakflash set to version 10

4) Nokia has done the exact opposite of abandon ARM

5) It is Adobe's responsibility to make Flash 10 available for ARM Linux, not Nokia.

6) The n900 is NOT a flagship device. It is a niche device, big difference. High specced and high priced != flagship. Flagship is what the company wants be known for in the mass market (think Motorola Droid).

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The fact that so many people start similar threads is of course an indication that they are correct -- they represent the honest opinion of the people Nokia sells phones to. It's a shame that Nokia isn't just a dumbphone company, as someone posted above -- it's also a dumb phone company.

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Originally Posted by cfh11 (Post 907922)

...I don't know what videos youre watching...

Vimeo. Facebook. There are plenty of others that made the switch.

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Nokia has done the exact opposite of abandon ARM

They're too busy abandoning Maemo.

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It is Adobe's responsibility to make Flash 10 available for ARM Linux, not Nokia.

Disagree. It's up the manufacturer because they'll be the ones supporting it, not Adobe.

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The n900 is NOT a flagship device. It is a niche device, big difference. High specced and high priced != flagship. Flagship is what the company wants be known for in the mass market (think Motorola Droid).

But it's also not the lowest spec'd machine either. In fact, it's the only Maemo phone. That may not say "flagship" but it definitely isn't chopped liver.

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Originally Posted by geneven (Post 907926)

The fact that so many people start similar threads is of course an indication that they are correct

Or that they are utterly unfamiliar about the processes that result in the software in their hands, being misled by marketing and superficial personal experiences. You know, just like when almost everyone believed and found it very logical to believe that the Earth was at the center of the universe (and flat).