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Dave999 2011-01-12 19:36

Re: Elop said N9 is a 2011 event. It's 2011! Where is it?
 
Didn't Intel/Nokia announce Meego last year at MWC...what have happened since then?

ohh yes...progress!

http://www.visionmobile.com/blog/wp-...1/VM_Meego.jpg

Dave999 2011-01-12 22:14

Re: Elop said N9 is a 2011 event. It's 2011! Where is it?
 
Meego progress continues, Waiting continues. 352 days to go...

danramos 2011-01-12 23:39

Re: Elop said N9 is a 2011 event. It's 2011! Where is it?
 
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Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 919068)
Meego progress continues, Waiting continues. 352 days to go...

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Still loading?? GAH!

mikecomputing 2011-01-12 23:55

Re: Elop said N9 is a 2011 event. It's 2011! Where is it?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 918945)
Didn't Intel/Nokia announce Meego last year at MWC...what have happened since then?

ohh yes...progress!

http://www.visionmobile.com/blog/wp-...1/VM_Meego.jpg

If you really are intested here are some tips what has happened since then:

http://wiki.meego.com
http://qa-reports.meego.com/

several mailiinglists with info
also irc channels at freenet

but most activitys is probadly:

http://meego.gitorious.org/

attila77 2011-01-13 00:07

Re: Elop said N9 is a 2011 event. It's 2011! Where is it?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 918177)
But neither are being used for a phone, not directly.

But more work has been done in getting Android to utilize multiple cores. We've yet to see MeeGo finalized.

How do you quantify this "more work" ? I find it amusing to claim than on a phone, multicore somehow works differently, and that a full Linux and Qt, both multithreaded and asynchronous for decades, are somehow not optimized for multicore operations. Unless you meant "more work *needs* to be done" in Android to utilize multiple cores.

danramos 2011-01-13 00:19

Re: Elop said N9 is a 2011 event. It's 2011! Where is it?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by attila77 (Post 919146)
How do you quantify this "more work" ? I find it amusing to claim than on a phone, multicore somehow works differently, and that a full Linux and Qt, both multithreaded and asynchronous for decades, are somehow not optimized for multicore operations. Unless you meant "more work *needs* to be done" in Android to utilize multiple cores.

This is boggling. I thought there was talk about how Android was a natural for multi-core, what with its virtual machine architecture. (i.e. http://blog.alsutton.com/2010/12/30/...e-android-101/)

attila77 2011-01-13 10:57

Re: Elop said N9 is a 2011 event. It's 2011! Where is it?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by danramos (Post 919157)
This is boggling. I thought there was talk about how Android was a natural for multi-core, what with its virtual machine architecture. (i.e. http://blog.alsutton.com/2010/12/30/...e-android-101/)

What I was referring to was:
Quote:

the OS will distribute the tasks accordingly, but, if you don’t split your application up, Android probably won’t know it can split the tasks across the available cores and so your application won’t make the best use of the resources available.
Qt is *by default* asynchronous in most use-cases, with a very strict focus on thread-safe/reentrant functions. It actually takes effort and proactive bad programming to end up with something that does not take advantage of multiple cores, and that is even true for applications already existing on the N900. Yes, if there was a multi-core Maemo5 device, the existing Qt apps would automatically get a degree of multi-core sweetness. That's why I find it funny when I hear doubts that MeeGo will somehow be inferior in that regard.

gerbick 2011-01-14 14:02

Re: Elop said N9 is a 2011 event. It's 2011! Where is it?
 
Never said it was inferior. MeeGo just isn't out yet. It needs to be out for me to say anything about how it is either better, worse or compares to anything else out there.

Wiki page links and statements mean very little without your own experience of the final version of the OS on final hardware.

Dave999 2011-01-14 18:01

Re: Elop said N9 is a 2011 event. It's 2011! Where is it?
 
Lucky for me I can't find a n9 on market today. Just can't afford it today. Might have the money tomorrow. 351 days of money hunting...

nilchak 2011-01-14 18:07

Re: Elop said N9 is a 2011 event. It's 2011! Where is it?
 
So if Meego 1.2 isnt going to be ready till April, why are some sites reporting that Nokia N9 (with Meeho I presume) will be announced in Feb at MWC ? Hard logic to follow - unless of course its back to Nokia's old Announce-Release cycle where there is a period of 6 months between the two. If that is the case then who cares.

Otherwise I dont see how Nokia can release a Meego device with a complete Meego stack and its own proprietary components when Meego itself will not be ready.

The old N9 hardware photo though still loOks very nice. Compare that to all the generic looking phoNes bought out by Samsung/HTC. Particlularly the Android phones all look similar in shape (rounded corner rectangular slab) with same looking 4 hardware or software buttons at the bottom. I understand the phones might have different internals (like the Atric) but externally they look the same (and a bit boring now).


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