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Dave999 2011-01-16 22:12

Re: Elop said N9 is a 2011 event. It's 2011! Where is it?
 
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Originally Posted by blipnl (Post 921518)
I will keep track of any good mobile news. Still, my N900 contract runs till december 2011 so imma sit back and enjoy the Q1, then 2, followed by 3 and then in Q4 look for a decent successor of the N900. ;)

Sounds perfect think the n9 is out in the wild by then so you can read about and see how nokia handles the release and support. Anyone seen/heard/read how nokia is planning to use meego in their devices. Are we still looking at a rate of every second year?

gerbick 2011-01-16 22:21

Re: Elop said N9 is a 2011 event. It's 2011! Where is it?
 
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Originally Posted by attila77 (Post 921463)
Even if we forego these blanket statements you provided no basis for, now somehow 'M isn't optimized and A has seen more work' does not imply M is inferior to A... Well, if that doesn't mean M is inferior it can only mean A is so hopeless that even though it's being heavily worked on, it cannot rise above unoptimized status. Dunno, must be my English.

Must be your English indeed. If I wanted to say inferior, better believe I would have just have said it. Keep your words from out of my statements.

Next time, it's better to ask me than assume. Saying something isn't optimized doesn't make it inferior. Whatever fanatical approach you want to apply to it does not apply here.

Unoptimized today means more than likely optimized in the near future. No tech is perfect, so improvement is to be understood. Seriously dude, there's nothing more than that to it.

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Well, good news ! Meego and Qt already do that.
Awesome! I can buy it where now?

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Then I can say - that final version will never-ever be released, except for maybe low-q knockoffs. Every vendor will do their optimizations. That's why you can't say 'ready'. MeeGo 1.1 might not have functionality/service X, or might sluggish because of driver Y, but that does not mean products based on it don't have that sorted out (just like you count the services Google provides towards Android features even though they are not part of the core OS features).
Stop being daft. By final, I meant exactly what I said before. Allow me to say it again, in smaller words.

Can it be purchased today, with all functionality built-in?

Yes/No.

I don't require any other long-winded answers. Just answer the above.

Thank you in advance.

Dave999 2011-01-17 16:38

Re: Elop said N9 is a 2011 event. It's 2011! Where is it?
 
I'm not sure you fully understand the number of days left. Thats why I will bring it to you. The magic number of days: 358.

daperl 2011-01-17 16:42

Re: Elop said N9 is a 2011 event. It's 2011! Where is it?
 
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Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 922391)
I'm not sure you fully understand the number of days left. Thats why I will bring it to you. The magic number of days: 358.

Would you like to try again?

Dave999 2011-01-18 15:14

Re: Elop said N9 is a 2011 event. It's 2011! Where is it?
 
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Originally Posted by daperl (Post 922392)
Would you like to try again?

Nice to see that you are with me. You passed the test! Golden Star.

347 days to go...

speculatrix 2011-01-18 23:00

Re: Elop said N9 is a 2011 event. It's 2011! Where is it?
 
if you haven't got the real thing, try a fake:
http://www.shanzai.com/index.php?opt...shanzai-mobile

mikecomputing 2011-01-18 23:32

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Originally Posted by speculatrix (Post 923412)
if you haven't got the real thing, try a fake:
http://www.shanzai.com/index.php?opt...shanzai-mobile

intel chipset omg I gona throw up if it end that it is true...

I guess next rumor will be n9 running wp7...

danramos 2011-01-18 23:57

Re: Elop said N9 is a 2011 event. It's 2011! Where is it?
 
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Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 923440)
intel chipset omg I gona throw up if it end that it is true...

I guess next rumor will be n9 running wp7...

I thought that rumor was already spread a long time ago, now.

mikecomputing 2011-01-19 00:13

Re: Elop said N9 is a 2011 event. It's 2011! Where is it?
 
lets spread some more rumors ;)

http://qa-reports.meego.com/1.2/Hand...tance/Ncdk/765

the N must stand for NOKIA and as we can se the build is for I86 platform ;) It must be the n9 prootype...

theonelaw 2011-01-19 05:11

Re: Elop said N9 is a 2011 event. It's 2011! Where is it?
 
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Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 923471)
lets spread some more rumors ;)

http://qa-reports.meego.com/1.2/Hand...tance/Ncdk/765

the N must stand for NOKIA and as we can se the build is for I86 platform ;) It must be the n9 prootype...

Can't be nokia - its got no usb or other connectivity:

Feature............Total....Passed... Failed..N/A
Connectivity.........5.........0.........5........ .0

riahc3 2011-01-19 06:24

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http://nokiamobilephonenews.co.uk/20...bruary-at-mwc/

ysss 2011-01-19 06:29

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Specs-wise, no new details have been revealed. According to previous rumours, we can expect the Nokia N9 to launch with a 1.2GHz Snapdragon processor, a 4.2 inch AMOLED touchscreen, a slide out QWERTY keypad, a 12 megapixel camera with 720p HD video capture, 3G and WiFi connectivity and 64GB of internal storage.
Nifty. (if true, which is rather plausible).

So who thinks the n900 will still go up in price and wants to stash a dozen to 'futureproof' themselves ... (At least until high-res multitouch screen is common).

theonelaw 2011-01-19 07:20

Re: Elop said N9 is a 2011 event. It's 2011! Where is it?
 
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Originally Posted by ysss (Post 923576)
Nifty. (if true, which is rather plausible).

So who thinks the n900 will still go up in price and wants to stash a dozen to 'futureproof' themselves ... (At least until high-res multitouch screen is common).

got 2 and a half now,
looking for another one this week, now that printing from n900 works
(bet Meego can't do that this year and bet they iCrap the battery like n8,
and it isn't released yet because it took too long to build a kill pill for an open system,
something Nokia wants to be able to do to your phone).

wmarone 2011-01-19 17:24

Re: Elop said N9 is a 2011 event. It's 2011! Where is it?
 
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Originally Posted by ysss (Post 923576)
wants to stash a dozen to 'futureproof' themselves ... (At least until high-res multitouch screen is common).

I've been tempted to snag another for MeeGo testing, and as backup in case something happens to mine. Of course, if the "future" of mobile devices is locked down garbage, then yeah I'll be "futureproofing" myself.

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Originally Posted by theonelaw (Post 923589)
now that printing from n900 works
(bet Meego can't do that this year and bet they iCrap the battery like n8)

I imagine MeeGo will be able to do it in short order. It's not like it's a crippled OS that only has the Linux kernel, I imagine it'll be much the same as getting it going in Maemo.

And show me where the iPhone has screws you can remove to swap the battery. Sure it's an annoying step, but it's nowhere near iPhone level of suck.

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and it isn't released yet because it took too long to build a kill pill for an open system,
something Nokia wants to be able to do to your phone).
Pretty awesome FUD there. I could do that with my N900 if I wanted to, and trivially. But of course, Nokia is bad for reacting to what is obviously the theft of one of their prototype devices in the only way they probably ever could.

Dave999 2011-01-19 17:57

Re: Elop said N9 is a 2011 event. It's 2011! Where is it?
 
346 days left...and Steve jobs takes medical leave of absence from sinking ship. When he wakes up, Meego will be there and knock him out ;)

atilla 2011-01-19 18:32

Re: Elop said N9 is a 2011 event. It's 2011! Where is it?
 
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Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 923964)
346 days left...and Steve jobs takes medical leave of absence from sinking ship. When he wakes up, Meego will be there and knock him out ;)

meego has much to do until it can knock anyone out.
and the first on the todo list is being available at a stable point........

theonelaw 2011-01-19 19:29

Re: Elop said N9 is a 2011 event. It's 2011! Where is it?
 
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Originally Posted by wmarone (Post 923936)
I imagine MeeGo will be able to do it in short order. It's not like it's a crippled OS that only has the Linux kernel, I imagine it'll be much the same as getting it going in Maemo.

I certainly hope you are right, but the only way to make sure it actually
happens is make sure everyone is aware of how it can go wrong.
It appears to be a work in progress, but if no one says anything
they would drop it without finishing it.
Virtually every single software package in Maemo lacks the print function,
all because someone thought it was 'best practice for the product'.
Rather than just sit meekly by wishfully hoping that Nokia
"just does the right thing" it is better to say what needs to be said.
They have incorporated a proper iso-8601 time locale in Meego,
and I am quite certain that only occurred because there were
people who actually toed the line based on what others complained about
and called BS on the locales thing they did in the n900.
It did not just happen:
someone said it, someone heard it, and the idea eventually filtered
into the place where someone could actually do something about it.

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And show me where the iPhone has screws you can remove to swap the battery. Sure it's an annoying step, but it's nowhere near iPhone level of suck.
True enough,
but if we let ourselves get suckered into buying locked-down hardware
then they will expand on that in the OS as well. (oh - wait...)
The only way to say no to all of that is to simply point it out and
walk away leaving inventory on the shelf.
If they insist on having something like that they should at least
clarify how the consumer (he owns it - right?) can deal with it on his own,
without needing to take time off from work to visit the local Nokia Care.

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Pretty awesome FUD there. I could do that with my N900 if I wanted to, and trivially. But of course, Nokia is bad for reacting to what is obviously the theft of one of their prototype devices in the only way they probably ever could.
yeah, you could do that to your own phone and we would all have a
good laugh over it, share codes on how to do it best or safest - sure.

I am over-the-top on that, but only because the only way
Nokia would ever recognize the enormity of this is to have enough people
explaining this to them in every language and venue that they can be reached.
Yes I know TMO is a poor place but there are people here who
will hear about it and eventually remember it at a crucial moment to
the people in Nokia who might actually be able to prevent this insanity.
I am on the other side of the planet from anyone who is in any kind of
position to bend ears at Nokia, and I am certain they are mostly listening
to only the news and information they actually want to hear.

Nokia was and still is justified in bricking stolen prototype(s),
but the industrial winds are blowing in the direction of building
this type of product-suicide into every production handset and retaining
for the corporation the activation codes to brick units.
How stupid this is defies words and any description is just inadequate.
Just wait till someone gets their hands on the list of kill-codes
for several million handphones/tablets/whatever and turns off
an entire inventory on some Saturday night.
It would create an instant stock-price evaporation of epic proportions.
Although Apple doesn't get any love for coming up with this m0r0n1c idea,
the place of honor will probably eventually go to Motorola or Samsung.
Some disgruntled employee(s) will probably eventually go home
from work some day with the keys to their customers daily lives
and there will be no way to stop them from completely eradicating
one of these firms in the space of a few hours work while the company sleeps.

Yes 2011 should be an interesting year indeed.
Now, back to coding - cheers ! :D :D :D

Dave999 2011-01-19 21:57

Re: Elop said N9 is a 2011 event. It's 2011! Where is it?
 
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Originally Posted by atilla (Post 923991)
meego has much to do until it can knock anyone out.
and the first on the todo list is being available at a stable point........

True. But we dont know what nokia is planning and how stable it is. They might have focus on a hybrid that knock knock at your door very soon. Or we have to wait to the end of this year. I think we know for sure after barcelona.

anwar71839 2011-01-19 22:05

Re: Elop said N9 is a 2011 event. It's 2011! Where is it?
 
There is no N9. They phone you guys are takling about is probably the E7. Since it didnt come out yet, it might come out with a polished version of symbian or meego.

Btw, who the hell adds 'just shoot me' tag to everything? its super annoying and childish and sucidial. Why dont you shoot yourself?

atilla 2011-01-19 22:14

Re: Elop said N9 is a 2011 event. It's 2011! Where is it?
 
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Originally Posted by anwar71839 (Post 924201)
There is no N9. They phone you guys are takling about is probably the E7. Since it didnt come out yet, it might come out with a polished version of symbian or meego.

Btw, who the hell adds 'just shoot me' tag to everything? its super annoying and childish and sucidial. Why dont you shoot yourself?

hahahah its really misterious ;)
on every thread the ****ing justshoot me tag.....

Dave999 2011-01-19 22:38

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...and what about 'eat the rich'...

atilla 2011-01-19 22:55

Re: Elop said N9 is a 2011 event. It's 2011! Where is it?
 
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Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 924224)
...and what about 'eat the rich'...

haha i guess some of our TMO members are really confused in a strange way.....

automagic68 2011-01-19 23:17

Re: Elop said N9 is a 2011 event. It's 2011! Where is it?
 
Hopefully the N9 will be a Febuary 2011 event....

sjgadsby 2011-01-20 00:07

Re: Elop said N9 is a 2011 event. It's 2011! Where is it?
 
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Originally Posted by anwar71839 (Post 924201)
Btw, who the hell adds 'just shoot me' tag to everything?

I couldn't stand that show myself, but it stayed on the air for quite a number of seasons, so obviously, it has its fans.

danramos 2011-01-20 10:59

Re: Elop said N9 is a 2011 event. It's 2011! Where is it?
 
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Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 924224)
...and what about 'eat the rich'...

I claim responsibility for that one. I placed it as a random thought pulled out of the air to use as a tag for no particularly good reason, seeing as how the other tags were equally nonsensical. :) I had the Aerosmith song stuck in my head at the moment I put it in there, in fact.

speculatrix 2011-01-20 14:05

Re: Elop said N9 is a 2011 event. It's 2011! Where is it?
 
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Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 923440)
intel chipset omg I gona throw up if it end that it is true...

I guess next rumor will be n9 running wp7...

well, maybe you will be throwing up then?

http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/20/n...restown-power/

ysss 2011-01-20 14:48

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Originally Posted by speculatrix (Post 924611)
well, maybe you will be throwing up then?

http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/20/n...restown-power/

My cock just flew.

Is that for real? Doesn't ATOM get really hot in your pocket and run out of juice within a couple of hours?

HangLoose 2011-01-20 14:52

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Originally Posted by ysss (Post 924639)
My cock just flew.

Is that for real? Doesn't ATOM get really hot in your pocket and run out of juice within a couple of hours?

maybe if running at full clock speed...
i would say that dynamically clocking would give almost the same battery life as the n900 (which is already horrible)

Dave999 2011-01-20 16:01

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just a few days left now...dont really remeber.

wmarone 2011-01-20 17:07

Re: Elop said N9 is a 2011 event. It's 2011! Where is it?
 
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Originally Posted by danramos (Post 924484)
I had the Aerosmith song stuck in my head at the moment I put it in there, in fact.

Great. Now it's in my head too. But it's only part of the song as I haven't heard it in a while so it's a short, repetitive loop. :mad:

Dave999 2011-01-20 22:26

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Originally Posted by wmarone (Post 924755)
Great. Now it's in my head too. But it's only part of the song as I haven't heard it in a while so it's a short, repetitive loop. :mad:

problem solved...tag is gone!

danramos 2011-01-21 23:19

Re: Elop said N9 is a 2011 event. It's 2011! Where is it?
 
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Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 925014)
problem solved...tag is gone!

Song stuck in your head? No problem.. it's replaced, instead, with WE BUILT THIS CITY ON ROCK 'N ROLL. Oh darn! Did it again!

Dave999 2011-01-22 08:22

Re: Elop said N9 is a 2011 event. It's 2011! Where is it?
 
3 4 4 nights left plus a few hour.

speculatrix 2011-01-22 08:53

Re: Elop said N9 is a 2011 event. It's 2011! Where is it?
 
it looks as if Nokia's relationship with Intel goes deeper than we guessed.

The N9 is probably based on a similar platform to the abandoned LG GW990 which was shown a year ago but never made it into production. Remember this:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/07/l...gets-official/
http://www.umpcportal.com/2010/01/lg...eo-nokia-next/

I don't think.performance will be an issue, the problem will be battery power. I would hope the n9 will get as good battery life as the n900 or better, unlike many of the more advanced android devices which get barely 12 hours use if you have all the features on (gps, wifi, bluetooth, 3g etc)

At this rate I can imagine Nokia merging with Intel.

mscion 2011-01-22 20:12

Re: Elop said N9 is a 2011 event. It's 2011! Where is it?
 
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Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 925900)
3 4 4 nights left plus a few hour.

It would be helpful if someone made an app to keep track of the n9 release date. I'm sure it would become one of Maemos top downloads. It could also show the worlds population and US debt as other useful information...

frostbyte 2011-01-22 20:38

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Originally Posted by mscion (Post 926318)
It would be helpful if someone made an app to keep track of the n9 release date. I'm sure it would become one of Maemos top downloads. It could also show the worlds population and US debt as other useful information...

unfortunately said app would confuse people even more as eventually the number for US debt would be mixed with days left to N9 release.

Dave999 2011-01-22 20:47

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Originally Posted by frostbyte (Post 926329)
unfortunately said app would confuse people even more as eventually the number for US debt would be mixed with days left to N9 release.

us dept is not a countdown. So its really no problem. The app would save alot of time as well of posts dor me. Would be much appreasiated.

Lullen 2011-01-22 20:59

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Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 926334)
us dept is not a countdown. So its really no problem. The app would save alot of time as well of posts dor me. Would be much appreasiated.

Is the N9 release date really a countdown? I would guess not...

ysss 2011-01-22 21:17

Re: Elop said N9 is a 2011 event. It's 2011! Where is it?
 
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Originally Posted by Lullen (Post 926339)
Is the N9 release date really a countdown? I would guess not...

You took us seriously...
Seriously, dude?
Did you take us seriously??
I mean, seriously, were you serious with that comment?!

Oh wait, did I miss your joke? Were you meaning to say that the N9 is so vaporous that its release date might be a count up?? :D

Lullen 2011-01-22 22:58

Re: Elop said N9 is a 2011 event. It's 2011! Where is it?
 
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Originally Posted by ysss (Post 926347)
You took us seriously...
Seriously, dude?
Did you take us seriously??
I mean, seriously, were you serious with that comment?!

Oh wait, did I miss your joke? Were you meaning to say that the N9 is so vaporous that its release date might be a count up?? :D

Exactly! :)


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