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mscion 2011-02-03 12:52

Re: Elop said N9 is a 2011 event. It's 2011! Where is it?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 934864)

The countdown might be changed to "until nokia is removed from the face of the earth".

I detect a slight note of hostility towards Nokia here. Have you considered taking an anger management class?

Dave999 2011-02-04 10:47

Re: Elop said N9 is a 2011 event. It's 2011! Where is it?
 
no not yet. But if nokia drop meego pre N9, I might follow your advice.

331 days or night left.

SubCore 2011-02-04 20:34

Re: Elop said N9 is a 2011 event. It's 2011! Where is it?
 
looks like we're getting close... let's hope ;)

http://arstechnica.com/open-source/n...-custom-ui.ars

jerryfreak 2011-02-04 20:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 934620)
OMG! If people buys stocks on nokia because of that stupid letter then the world is more crazy than I thought.

There most be another better reason the stock raised 4 percent today...

when was that 'roadmap' meeting supposed to be? IIRC, it was prior to MWC

Dave999 2011-02-04 20:53

Re: Elop said N9 is a 2011 event. It's 2011! Where is it?
 
11th. We should have a countdown for that so noone miss the date.

EDIT: a countdown is the solution for almost every problem.

mikecomputing 2011-02-04 21:55

Re: Elop said N9 is a 2011 event. It's 2011! Where is it?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 934864)
It wont be dropped before n9 hit the stores. But it is possible that nokia do a back-flipp and leave it for dead after a few months in store.

If they drop meego completly and go win7 or android. I will start work "more activley" to bring down nokia to a 1 man company. I will not succeed, but I will try.

The countdown might be changed to "until nokia is removed from the face of the earth".

I am on! I hoppe engineers inside nokia start a new meego company and I would mind give them some investemnts even if its small...

mikecomputing 2011-02-04 22:14

Re: Elop said N9 is a 2011 event. It's 2011! Where is it?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SubCore (Post 936237)
looks like we're getting close... let's hope ;)

http://arstechnica.com/open-source/n...-custom-ui.ars

<offtopic>

Hell that cute cat picture made me think of my cat that died in december missing it :-S

</offtopic>

mscion 2011-02-04 22:42

Re: Elop said N9 is a 2011 event. It's 2011! Where is it?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 936252)
11th. We should have a countdown for that so noone miss the date.

EDIT: a countdown is the solution for almost every problem.

Definitely. Although I do have one request from Nokia in regards to the n9 so that I am not disappointed on this special day.

Please come with a QWERTY keyboard. Please come with QWERTY keyboard. Please come with a QWERTY keyboard. Please come with a QWERTY keyboard. Please come with a QWERTY keyboard. Please come with a QWERTY keyboard. Please! Please! Please!

Ummm... Does that count as more than one request?

Dave999 2011-02-05 09:51

Re: Elop said N9 is a 2011 event. It's 2011! Where is it?
 
330 days or posts left. Nokia hurry up. You have a tight schdule and you are already late.

QWERTY required. Got it.

mikecomputing 2011-02-05 11:35

Re: Elop said N9 is a 2011 event. It's 2011! Where is it?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 936652)
330 days or posts left. Nokia hurry up. You have a tight schdule and you are already late.

QWERTY required. Got it.

6 days left to Elop+Steve Ballmer tells the truth....

blipnl 2011-02-05 12:12

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Nokia and Microsoft are announcing partnership next week, according to engadget :O not that they haven't done something like that in the past, but I fear WP7 software on MeeGo capable devices?

Ohh Noes!!!

Or creating an extra doorway for wp7 related software to be compilable to MeeGo and vice versa, that sounds better IMHO..

slender 2011-02-05 13:16

Re: Elop said N9 is a 2011 event. It's 2011! Where is it?
 
Btw. This Nokia and Ms partership is nothing new. People who actually read news know very well that Nokia and MS have done many projects together.

Some nice press stuff from MS finnish site:
http://www.microsoft.com/finland/pr/...ia_130809.mspx

And looks who is there on ms side :) Elop.

.edit
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/p...-12pixipr.mspx

Dave999 2011-02-05 15:10

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That may be true. But nothing like this. Nokia has worked a long time with meego which should be their new High End OS. At that time bring in another OS (win7) which also will aim for mid and high end. That will certenly kill some of the much needed boost from partner, devs and users.

Will be very intressting to see where nokia is headed.

Just pure speculations here at the moment!

richie 2011-02-05 15:51

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Not sure what to make of this on Twitter,

@awafaa Andrew Wafaa
bit of a bomshell dropped last night re #MeeGo not sure what to do now

@juphoff Jeff Uphoff
@awafaa Official bombshell or rumor bombshell?

@juphoff unofficial as in no announcement made from upstream, doubt they will either

NvyUs 2011-02-05 15:58

Re: Elop said N9 is a 2011 event. It's 2011! Where is it?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by richie (Post 936843)
Not sure what to make of this on Twitter,

@awafaa Andrew Wafaa
bit of a bomshell dropped last night re #MeeGo not sure what to do now

@juphoff Jeff Uphoff
@awafaa Official bombshell or rumor bombshell?

@juphoff unofficial as in no announcement made from upstream, doubt they will either

thats most probably to do with the Linux Foundation Ruling the name SmeegoL cant be used with there openSUSE MeeGo UX preoject and them being too stubborn to listen and going ahead with the name

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smeegol_Linux

http://www.allaboutmeego.com/news/it...es_against.php

blipnl 2011-02-05 16:50

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According to the Dutch newspaper 'De Telegraaf' Nokia is also going to fire a couple of execs, probably due to the loss in market share (as if it were that simple but OK) so a couple of them should be fearing the sack.

Hope its the Symbian UI execs! Or the ones responsible for OVI store ;)

mikecomputing 2011-02-05 17:04

Re: Elop said N9 is a 2011 event. It's 2011! Where is it?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NvyUs (Post 936847)
thats most probably to do with the Linux Foundation Ruling the name SmeegoL cant be used with there openSUSE MeeGo UX preoject and them being too stubborn to listen and going ahead with the name

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smeegol_Linux

http://www.allaboutmeego.com/news/it...es_against.php

What is this war still going on about smeego? what it is with some of the open source fanatic IDIOTS that cant accept licens agreement and than whine like kids?

attila77 2011-02-05 19:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 936884)
What is this war still going on about smeego? what it is with some of the open source fanatic IDIOTS that cant accept licens agreement and than whine like kids?

There is another side of that coin. The problem never really was with the license agreement (trade mark, actually), but rather (lack of) timely and adequate communication, i.e. the smeegol name was known, advertised and asked for permission well in advance, but the response in the form of a C&D came a lot later, in fact two weeks AFTER the project made it's first public release. That's what caused the... 'commotion'.

NvyUs 2011-02-05 19:38

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Even so they have still had 4 months to get used to the ruling but as far as I could tell back in December they still was releasing updates with the name instead of changing it. I know some was co-operative and willing to change the name but couple others was trying to stand there ground sticking the middle finger up

automagic68 2011-02-05 19:43

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Why are so many websites insistent that Nokia will make handsets with WP7? I REALLY want the N9 to run MeeGo and have a QWERTY keyboard.

gerbick 2011-02-05 20:01

Re: Elop said N9 is a 2011 event. It's 2011! Where is it?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by automagic68 (Post 936978)
Why are so many websites insistent that Nokia will make handsets with WP7? I REALLY want the N9 to run MeeGo and have a QWERTY keyboard.

Because WP7 is out (and struggling) meanwhile MeeGo is struggling to be released in a final, fully usable form that can be a mass-marketed OS, something that never was targeted nor obtainable with Maemo.

There are many other reasons; however it's easier to just look at the bottom reasons of that one is out, somewhat liked and the other, a ton of money invested, nothing final as of yet. Outside of this community, it just doesn't make sense to have nothing to show for your chosen OS of your future highend phones.

Thus... the question of "Why not use WP7, Nokia? It's there, it's square... get used to us thinking we want it there!"

Or something like that.

dee 2011-02-05 20:06

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Should I pay for all this FUD,
or whether they are already paid for?

gerbick 2011-02-05 20:15

Re: Elop said N9 is a 2011 event. It's 2011! Where is it?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dee (Post 936996)
Should I pay for all this FUD,
or whether they are already paid for?

It's called speculation. If you want to pay for it, you're in luck... I accept PayPal.

Dave999 2011-02-06 10:39

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329 days of speculation left.

You should indeed donate. But not in this thread, pick some of the brilliant Apps/Devs around here and give em some €$£.

Nothing comes for free.

marxian 2011-02-06 10:49

Re: Elop said N9 is a 2011 event. It's 2011! Where is it?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 936994)
Thus... the question of "Why not use WP7, Nokia? It's there, it's square..."

It's crap?

attila77 2011-02-06 11:46

Re: Elop said N9 is a 2011 event. It's 2011! Where is it?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NvyUs (Post 936973)
Even so they have still had 4 months to get used to the ruling but as far as I could tell back in December they still was releasing updates with the name instead of changing it. I know some was co-operative and willing to change the name but couple others was trying to stand there ground sticking the middle finger up

As said, that's all the consequence of botched comms. When you pull a belated cease&desist on a fellow open source project, that's bound to generate bad blood, and the middle-finger driven response actions instead of cool-headed compromise is one of the consequences.

mikecomputing 2011-02-06 12:27

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nCDK qa report daily, not updated since 28 january something smells.......

gerbick 2011-02-06 20:02

Re: Elop said N9 is a 2011 event. It's 2011! Where is it?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by marxian (Post 937313)
It's crap?

Just curious. How much experience do you honestly have with WP7?

Dave999 2011-02-06 22:27

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328 days left in this world until we might see the N9 YeeeHooo!

Superbowl+sunday. 35 minutes to go. Anyone watching?

dee 2011-02-06 22:38

Re: Elop said N9 is a 2011 event. It's 2011! Where is it?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 937749)
328 days left in this world until we might see the N9 YeeeHooo!

Superbowl+sunday. 35 minutes to go. Anyone watching?

Angry Birds will perform during the commercial break.

...and football=soccer :D

gerbick 2011-02-07 00:22

Re: Elop said N9 is a 2011 event. It's 2011! Where is it?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dee (Post 937756)
football=soccer

Despite hearing this over a billion times, I never tire of this.

Yeah.

glabifrons 2011-02-07 03:49

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So I have to ask... what's with the countdown until the end of the year so many keep posting? :confused:
What does that have to do with anything, especially the N9?
I mean, Christmas I can understand, MWC would make even more sense (but that's only 8 days away), but December 31st?

sjgadsby 2011-02-07 04:03

Re: Elop said N9 is a 2011 event. It's 2011! Where is it?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by glabifrons (Post 937881)
So I have to ask... what's with the countdown until the end of the year so many keep posting?

The thread title is actually a pretty fair summary of the reason for the countdown, though I don't believe the announcement Elop made referred to the N9 specifically.
  1. In 2010, people wanted Nokia to release, or at least announce, a MeeGo-based product before the end of the year.
  2. Instead, Elop announced that wouldn't be happening, and that news about MeeGo devices would be something that happens in 2011.
  3. It's 2011 now, and Nokia should be announcing something before this year runs out.
  4. So, Dave is counting down to the last possible date Nokia can take action without Elop breaking his word.

glabifrons 2011-02-07 04:30

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That'll teach me to blindly dive into any thread that mentions the N9. :)
Spent so long trying to catch up, I forgot what the title was.

Dave999 2011-02-07 23:12

Re: Elop said N9 is a 2011 event. It's 2011! Where is it?
 
327 days left. Its so close I can almost taste it.

Win7...meego...meego...win7...symbian...win7...mee go. thats right, I go for meego.

mikecomputing 2011-02-07 23:52

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4 days left to Nokia goes ...................

mscion 2011-02-08 00:25

Re: Elop said N9 is a 2011 event. It's 2011! Where is it?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 938490)
327 days left. Its so close I can almost taste it.

Win7...meego...meego...win7...symbian...win7...mee go. thats right, I go for meego.

I don't know... Are you putting too much pressure on Nokia? Isn't it better they just get it right? Maybe you should give them an extra year in the countdown.

automagic68 2011-02-08 00:30

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I wanna taste Stevie Jobs tears when the iPhony gets destroyed hahaha(evil laugh)....

gerbick 2011-02-08 00:56

Re: Elop said N9 is a 2011 event. It's 2011! Where is it?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by automagic68 (Post 938558)
I wanna taste Stevie Jobs tears when the iPhony gets destroyed hahaha(evil laugh)....

Good luck with that. As it stands, better products exist, he already knows that.

But without MeeGo in place and without proper support and/or a proper rollout, you'll be waiting for that destruction as well as the as-of-yet finished OS.

theonelaw 2011-02-09 14:16

Re: Elop said N9 is a 2011 event. It's 2011! Where is it?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 938490)
327 days left. Its so close I can almost taste it. ...

Uhh, maybe you actually mean
at the very least 326 more days
of the fact
that the n900 remains the pinnacle of linux handphones
and thus (for the handful or so of us very few linux addicts)
the only real choice in the market.

Anyway, keep counting,,,,


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