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bakuur 2011-01-02 11:51

LG Optimus 2X - First mobile dual-core processor
 
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The expected to be released by january wonder seems close enough to wipe off the existance of the iPhone 4.


with the 4.0 inches TFT capacitive touchscreen , 8MP/Flash camera and 1080p video recording.

MORE over here

tele 2011-01-02 11:56

Re: LG Optimus 2X - First mobile dual-core processor
 
wow but 8 GB storage? :( now thats rubbish :D

flipalong 2011-01-02 11:58

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dont forget that 2ghz phone that motorolla said would come out in 2011 ;) http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/10/m...-end-so-do-we/

James_Littler 2011-01-02 12:10

Re: LG Optimus 2X - First mobile dual-core processor
 
I doubt it'll capture 1080p if it only outputs 720p, also with that internal storage you'd need a pretty big card to capture any decent length video.

atilla 2011-01-02 12:26

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i don't get why someone would make a at least 720p recording phone with only 8gb storage

bakuur 2011-01-02 13:04

Re: LG Optimus 2X - First mobile dual-core processor
 
maybe its just some initial release?
they might add the 16 and 32gb on a later stage
as with the iphone
or maybe you will have to rely on the SDcard

bakuur 2011-01-02 13:05

Re: LG Optimus 2X - First mobile dual-core processor
 
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Originally Posted by flipalong (Post 909684)
dont forget that 2ghz phone that motorolla said would come out in 2011 ;) http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/10/m...-end-so-do-we/

i think 2Ghz is too much
its just a phone and further more it will drain the battery real quickly
im not sure but i think the dual core will actully be less power consumption compared to the N900 and other phones
maybe , maybe not ...

Turkishflavor 2011-01-02 13:20

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LG Optimus 2X - First mobile phone with 2X fast battery consumption :D.

ammyt 2011-01-02 13:26

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WOW, just just, WOW. But the price, EEWWW just just, EEWWW.
ARM rules :D

jakiman 2011-01-02 14:07

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Well, it's quite common knowledge that LG Optimus 2X will use nVidia Tegra 2 processor.

http://www.nvidia.com/object/tegra-2.html
http://www.netbookchoice.com/2010/01...s-predecessor/
http://www.gsmarena.com/the_powerful...-news-2162.php

We are going to see many phones using Tegra 2 this year I'm sure.

bakuur 2011-01-02 14:13

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Originally Posted by jakiman (Post 909776)
Well, it's quite common knowledge that LG Optimus 2X will use nVidia Tegra 2 processor.

http://www.nvidia.com/object/tegra-2.html
http://www.netbookchoice.com/2010/01...s-predecessor/
http://www.gsmarena.com/the_powerful...-news-2162.php

We are going to see many phones using Tegra 2 this year I'm sure.

making it even better?

ammyt 2011-01-02 14:28

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C'mon Nokia use this!

bakuur 2011-01-02 14:32

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http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_optimus_2x-3598.php

gabby131 2011-01-02 14:39

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WTF is this? am i going to trash my Captivate this early 2011? :D

tissot 2011-01-02 14:56

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Don't think i will be changing my Galaxy S + N900 combo for this. It's all pretty numbers but we are talking about LG here... i rather wait for Samsung and HTC answers in MWC.

Samsung ordered huge amount tegra 2 procs and i'm much more confident about them than the pretty much dead LG at least over here. Samsung will have it's orion equiped phone also but that's somewhere in 2h this year.

atilla 2011-01-02 15:05

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galaxy s2 will have a nvidia tegra dual core cpu too ;)
http://gadgetwidgets.com/ces-2011-sa...firmed-100351/

bakuur 2011-01-02 15:37

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i still dont get it
is that a good thing?? as in battry consumption wise

gabby131 2011-01-02 16:07

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Originally Posted by bakuur (Post 909830)
i still dont get it
is that a good thing?? as in battry consumption wise

someone replied like "i cant wait for 2hour standby phones" when a 2ghz phone first rumored.

bakuur 2011-01-02 18:52

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yeah but im talking about the dual core not the 2Ghz processors

SalmanAbbas 2011-01-02 19:23

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they better start replacing batteries with nuclear reactors

bakuur 2011-01-02 20:21

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Originally Posted by SalmanAbbas (Post 909953)
they better start replacing batteries with nuclear reactors

hahaha! thumbs up to that ;)

atilla 2011-01-02 21:33

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Originally Posted by bakuur (Post 910006)
hahaha! thumbs up to that ;)

+1
would love this too.
imagine you could let it run for 20 years ;)

jakiman 2011-01-02 21:48

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Umm. New dual-core CPUs may use much less power than N900's 600Mhz single core CPU. Just like curent Intel Core i5 quad core CPUs using far less power than older single core Pentium4 CPUs.

Have you guys even read nVidia's claim of it able to play over 16 hours of HD video on a single battery charge? (I'm assuming they are talking about tablets with bigger batteries most likely but still very impressive)

Turkishflavor 2011-01-02 22:27

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dual core processors are useless. should be one core with more power - thats WAY better than any dual-core.. its just marketing-********, just useless **** :)

efekt 2011-01-02 22:45

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I don't get it - a dual-core CPU on a device which is running Android? Isn't that a total waste? Can Android really correctly utilize a dual-core CPU at all? :confused:
And even if it does - what good will it make?

atilla 2011-01-02 22:53

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Originally Posted by Turkishflavor (Post 910067)
dual core processors are useless. should be one core with more power - thats WAY better than any dual-core.. its just marketing-********, just useless **** :)

sry but you are talking pointless crap.dual core cpus are far better in any point then single core cpus.ike jakiman said a 1ghz dual core cpu(2ghz)can take less energy then our single core 600mhz one,if the software is optimized for it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-core_processor
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nvidia_Tegra
http://www.nvidia.com/object/tegra.html

Alex Atkin UK 2011-01-02 23:38

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Also I notice the A9 is out-of-order execution, that in itself makes its more efficient I believe.

I do not understand it exactly but its something along the lines of being able choose which command to execute next out of the queue (for efficiency) rather than being force to do them in the exact order they are in the queue.

Also lets not forget that with good power management and two cores it can always disable one core entirely if not needed, or clock them both down to insanely low speeds. I would think that with two cores it should make the process of switching from low to high speed a lot smoother to the end user, as any sudden need for CPU cycles is not going to bog down the CPU as badly.

Of course this is all assuming that they are improving the flash memory in the phones as well. It always seems to be IO that is the big problem as the flash in phones is barely any better than SD cards, a long way away from the speed SSDs or even HDDs can do. You can't help thinking they are deliberately holding back so they can sell us the next big thing every 12 months.

Kangal 2011-01-03 01:12

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Originally Posted by efekt (Post 910081)
I don't get it - a dual-core CPU on a device which is running Android? Isn't that a total waste? Can Android really correctly utilize a dual-core CPU at all? :confused:
And even if it does - what good will it make?

Exactly.
The only mobile OS's that would benefit substantially from going A8 to dual-A9 is MeeGo.
I'm sure iOS will be next (perhaps with the iPad2).

The rest of the followers really need some major groundwork:
RIM (dead), WP7 (needs to catchup faster), WebOS (needs to start innovating), Android Honeycomb (needs some major revisions to get hardware accelaration).

theonelaw 2011-01-03 02:10

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Originally Posted by efekt (Post 910081)
I don't get it - a dual-core CPU on a device which is running Android? Isn't that a total waste? Can Android really correctly utilize a dual-core CPU at all? :confused:
And even if it does - what good will it make?

Images of a rocket sled in a mud pit,
real potential stuck in the mud of a java-script maze.

Like Chuck Norris wearing handcuffs ?
oops

Kangal 2011-01-03 05:16

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Originally Posted by theonelaw (Post 910195)
Images of a rocket sled in a mud pit,
real potential stuck in the mud of a java-script maze.

Like Chuck Norris wearing handcuffs ?
oops

That's right and swapping in MeeGo, is like placing the rocket sled on a pebble-paved road. It's not the smoothest but a lot better than the mud!

By the way, I was about to Thank You.
Then I realized I would be thanking a carcass, since you've been roundhouse kicked to death before I could finish reading.
Good one, Chuck!

chucknorris 2011-01-03 05:43

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Originally Posted by flipalong (Post 909684)
dont forget that 2ghz phone that motorolla said would come out in 2011 ;) http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/10/m...-end-so-do-we/

nokia and motorola are goin to merge(entire deal in 6months time)...(inside info)!!!

Ayle 2011-01-04 01:40

Re: LG Optimus 2X - First mobile dual-core processor
 
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Originally Posted by Alex Atkin UK (Post 910123)
Also I notice the A9 is out-of-order execution, that in itself makes its more efficient I believe.

I do not understand it exactly but its something along the lines of being able choose which command to execute next out of the queue (for efficiency) rather than being force to do them in the exact order they are in the queue.

Also lets not forget that with good power management and two cores it can always disable one core entirely if not needed, or clock them both down to insanely low speeds. I would think that with two cores it should make the process of switching from low to high speed a lot smoother to the end user, as any sudden need for CPU cycles is not going to bog down the CPU as badly.

Of course this is all assuming that they are improving the flash memory in the phones as well. It always seems to be IO that is the big problem as the flash in phones is barely any better than SD cards, a long way away from the speed SSDs or even HDDs can do. You can't help thinking they are deliberately holding back so they can sell us the next big thing every 12 months.

don't forget that those logic boards are seriously space restricted. SSD controllers are huge and fast memory BGA chips are expensive. But I think that problem will go away when the finally start producing SDXCs that IO problem with the ROM will be gone.


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