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Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU

Hello there, to all of you...

Firstly, I like what the Maemo Council and MohammadAG are doing and please recieve my gratitude for everything.

Secondly, I know that not everything comes for free (free ride services) and although this is a linux-maemo comunity and there are people that enjoy coding and developing Maemo 5 and its services I believe there should be a donation paypal button either for
MohammadAG and the Maemo Council (individually) or a common donation button with amounts of 10, 15, 20, 25, 30 Eur (or $) so if anyone cares and hopes for better SSU updates should, if he or she believes and affords, hit that donation button.
I, for example, would like to contribute to this.

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU

Quote:

Originally Posted by sygys (Post 938695)

is there allready anything fixed that was broken before the start of CSSU or are you guys only causing problems that you need to fix.

the stuff you guys messed up was far more important to use then a small bug in the terminal wich 99% of the users didn't even mention.

start fixing stuff that matters please! like the media player button, the virtual keyboard wich messes up text. An option where when a bluetooth enabled headset is attached the n900 will automatic choose gprs instead of wifi would be great too.

And for god sake update the change log please! or atleast put the changes in the info part of the installation menu so that we can actually see what has been changed and test was you guys improved.

You are under no obligation to use CSSU. Learn how how to give feedback in a civilized manner. File a bug report.

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU

Quote:

Originally Posted by sansar95 (Post 938694)

I tried to make changes to the transtition file and opened it for editing using FILEBOX
But during saving change it is saying its an READ ONLY file

Please help.

Thanks in advance

root

leafpad /usr/share/hildon-desktop/transition.ini

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU

enable root access in filebox under options.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sygys (Post 938695)

Write a patch? Also, it´s in the testing stage. Don´t use it if you can´t handle it please.

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU

hmmm

noticed that if in [home] in transitions.ini

radius and radius_more must be set to more than 0 in order for saturate = 0 to work

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU

Quote:

Originally Posted by sygys (Post 938695)

is there allready anything fixed that was broken before the start of CSSU or are you guys only causing problems that you need to fix.

Please keep in mind this is just the beginning, some work has to
be done to make the cssu process working at all.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sygys (Post 938695)

the stuff you guys messed up was far more important to use then a small bug in the terminal wich 99% of the users didn't even mention.

99% of the users shouldn't install this CSSU, now. If you are afraid
things can break, don't use extras-devel stuff. Just wait.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sygys (Post 938695)

start fixing stuff that matters please! like the media player button, the virtual keyboard wich messes up text.

The CSSU can not fix bugs in nokias closed source components.
Not at least they are rewritten from scratch, which may take much
time.
Feel free to test my media-player-widget from extras-devel. Give
feedback about what is working and what not or any
feature requests.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sygys (Post 938695)

And for god sake update the change log please! or atleast put the changes in the info part of the installation menu so that we can actually see what has been changed and test was you guys improved.

Keep in mind the developers do all this in their spare free time.

Nicolai

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modest now sends attachments!

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark_Angel85 (Post 938834)

modest now sends attachments!

Modest always sent them, now your MUA can see them.

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU

edit: now my mail app can see it!

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU

Good work on sorting Modest. Hopefully the aforementioned patches to camel tinymail et all can be applied for offline sync. I've been using it for a bit over 6 months and it works perfectly as described.

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU

I've tried several times and yet I'm unable to install community testing, after some minutes on HAM a yellow banner pops up saying cannot install application package or something like that.

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU

i couldnt install thru AppManager, FappMan worked for me

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU

I got a question - willing to donate to the solution holder..

2G vs 3G (3.5g). Well, we all know that 3G/3.5G brings down the battery quite fast and, though the network selection applet is making good job on it I would ask/propose to the coding guys the following scenario (please, forgive for me not being to clear when speaking about this issues - not knowing much about it)

When we need a 3G/3.5G network connection (either on SIP calls, web browsing, attachment downloading/uploading, etc) the present 2G connection should "call" for the 3.5G and allow it to do the job. I believe it is common knowledge that the switch from 2G to 3G is quite fast in contrast to the vice-versa from 3.5G to 2G which it takes quite longer. Then, after the job is done, and the screen is black (standby) the network connection should revert to the 2G mode.
The network Dual mode is not working, as I monitored several times.

So, is this doable?

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU

Quote:

Originally Posted by f2thak (Post 938862)

i couldnt install thru AppManager, FappMan worked for me

Okay gonna give it a shot.

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU

you will need to add repository manually.. open appman and fappman, create new repo in fappman and copy settings over from appman :D

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU

Quote:

Originally Posted by f2thak (Post 938874)

you will need to add repository manually.. open appman and fappman, create new repo in fappman and copy settings over from appman :D

Can you list me the repo's details, i guess the .install file is banged hard.

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU

Quote:

Originally Posted by ammyt (Post 938880)

Can you list me the repo's details, i guess the .install file is banged hard.

Post #396

Name: Community SSU
URL: http://repository.maemo.org/community-testing/
Distribution: fremantle
Components: free non-free

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU

Been running the CSSU the last days and have also gotten daily updates the last 3 days.

No bugs to report that should be affected to the CSSU. (Conversations freaked out after 1500 or so SMSs in storage, but a reboot solved that.) On the other hand, no noticeable improvements to speak of - Modest is still slow as *bleep* to navigate. I understood that Modest was one of the components which has gotten a major overhaul with the CSSU? How do I check the version of Modest?

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU

Quote:

Originally Posted by skripis (Post 938943)

On the other hand, no noticeable improvements to speak of - Modest is still slow as *bleep* to navigate. I understood that Modest was one of the components which has gotten a major overhaul with the CSSU? How do I check the version of Modest?

No-one has said that any major improvements were shipped. Modest has had it's version bumped and some patches applied, but it's still Modest.

Sc0rpius is increasingly digging through its code, though.

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaffa (Post 938948)

Ok. I moticed that the version-number of Modest was bumped quite a lot so I expected some experienced changes, but yeah, not disappointed or "upset", don't misunderstand me.

I was starting to worry that my installation of CSSU might not have touched Modest at all. Pardon my n00bness and repeated question, but how can I check the version-number of Modest to verify a full installation of the CSSU?

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU

Quote:

Originally Posted by skripis (Post 938952)

xterm

root
dpkg -l modest

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Version 3.90.7-4. Thanks!

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU

i hope CSSU can bring us more enhanced feature like.
- bind the email,sms and im conversation as a tab in contact list.
so we can instantly check the history.
-extra option, like "make all email as read"
-perhaps a new GUI?

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I wouldn't expect huge changes like that. Keep in mind this is a community driven effort, and like Jaffa said - it's all being done in spare time, and on the heels of OTHER open source community sourced projects.

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU

Whist the CSSU has lead to some improvements in the speed of the device generally is there any other hidden "tweaks", which we can use such as easier access to multiple desktops/blur etc as there seems users are referring to them in this thread but there's no real info how to use them?

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modest email horizontal wrapping issue

today i have received some emails which modest in neither mfe nor imap account wraps correctly therefore i am unable to read them as at the same time the horizontal scrollbar doesn't scroll sideways. as some other emails come through OK, i am not sure now whether this is a new issue that came through CSSU or was existing before...

is there a workaround or a fix for this?

P.

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU

Quote:

Originally Posted by vanous (Post 939151)

I am having the same problem. It is new since the CSSU. I was about to go file a bug in bugzilla on it, but was checking the thread to see if anyone else commented on it.

Update: I filed bug #11910 on this issue in bugzilla if you want to vote or add any info.

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU

I've edited my transition.ini file but I was unable to set bigger task switcher and desaturation, here it is, what mistakes have I done?:

Code:

# This file contains timings and values for transitions in hildon-desktop

# duration = time in milliseconds

# zoom = amount to zoom out the background. 1 = none, 0.5 = zoom to half size

# radius = radius of blur (this is actually the number of blur iterations,

#          so the bigger the number the longer it takes)

# saturation = the amount of colour left in the background (0 = grey, 1 = normal)

# brightness = brightness of the background (0 = black, 1 = normal)          



##

# Special tweaks (a restart might be required)

##

[thp_tweaks]

# Blurless destaturation=1



# Bigger task switcher=2



[blur]

duration=200



# Zoom out of the task navigator before it fades out

# -- zoom: how much to scale the switcher when going to launcher

#           (the second layer of the launcher would scale it twice

#            as much but the switcher is hidden by that time currently)

# -- zoom_for_home: how much to scale the switcher when leaving for home

# -- zoom_duration: the number of miliseconds to spend on zooming

#                    a thumbnail

# -- fly_duration: how long should it take for the thumbnails to rearrange

# -- notifade_in/out: time to fade the notifications

# 

[task_nav]

zoom=0.2

zoom_for_home=0.2

zoom_duration=280

fly_duration=250

notifade_in=200

notifade_out=200



# Blurring of the home view

# -- radius: amount of iterations of blur filter to perform when not zoooming

#            eg. for dialogs

# -- radius_more: amount of iterations of blur filter to perform when zooming

#                 eg. for launcher/task navigator

# -- saturation: saturation of the background when blurred

# -- brightness: brightness of the background when blurred

# -- zoom: Basic amount to scale the home view by (gets multiplied by how many 

#          'levels' deep the UI is - eg. launcher is one level, launcher submenu

#          is another)

# -- zoom_applets: Amount to scale applets by when zooming out

[home]

radius=0

radius_more=0

saturation=0

brightness=0.5

zoom=1

zoom_applets=075



# The glow effect around launcher buttons

[launcher_glow]

duration_in=200

duration_out=200

radius=6

brightness=1



# The items below are for the transitions that are applied

# to a 'page' of launcher icons

# -- duration: time in ms

# -- depth: amount to move icons backwards and forwards (with perspective)

#           this is pretty much how big or small the icons get     

# -- sequenced: for in and in_sub, whether icons swoop nicely in (1)

#               or whether they just all zoom in as one (0)

# -- keyframes: A list of values that are linearly interpolated between 

#               to produce the movement of the launcher tiles. There can 

#               be any number of values as long as there are 2 or more. 

#               <1 means nearer the viewer, >1 means further away

# -- keyframes_label: The values used for fading in the labels. 0=transparent

#                     1=opaque

# -- keyframes_icon: The values used for fading in the icons. 0=transparent

#                     1=opaque

# Launcher top layer first appearing

[launcher_in]

duration=800

sequenced=1

depth=-300

keyframes=0,0.17,0.39,0.65,0.87,1.13,1.26,1.22,1.17,1.13,1.09,1.04,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1

keyframes_icon=0,0.1,0.2,0.3,0.4,0.5,0.6,0.7,0.8,0.9,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1

keyframes_label=0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0.1,0.2,0.3,0.4,0.5,0.6,0.7,0.8,0.9,1



# Launcher top layer disappearing

[launcher_out]

sequenced=1

keyframes=0,0.17,0.39,0.65,0.87,1.13,2,1.13,0.87,0.65,0.39,0.17,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1

depth=0

keyframes_label=0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0.1,0.2,0.3,0.4,0.5,0.6,0.7,0.8,0.9,1

keyframes_icon=0,0.1,0.2,0.3,0.4,0.5,0.6,0.7,0.8,0.9,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1

duration=200



# launcher top layer disappearing when a layer in front

[launcher_out_back]

duration=200

depth=50



# launch animation

# duration_out - amount of time to take when fading the launcher out and application in

# delay - the amount of time to wait after the window has appeared before we fade out

#         (this time is *included* in duration_out, so it must be <= duration_out)  

[launcher_launch]

duration=300

delay=400

duration_out=300

depth=-2



# sub-menu appearing

[launcher_in_sub]

duration=900

sequenced=1

depth=200

keyframes=0,0.17,0.39,0.65,0.87,1.13,1.26,1.22,1.17,1.13,1.09,1.04,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1

keyframes_icon=0,0.1,0.2,0.3,0.4,0.5,0.6,0.7,0.8,0.9,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1

keyframes_label=0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0.1,0.2,0.3,0.4,0.5,0.6,0.7,0.8,0.9,1



# sub-menu disappearing

[launcher_out_sub]

sequenced=0

keyframes=0,0.17,0.39,0.65,0.87,1.13,2,1.13,0.87,0.65,0.39,0.17,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1

depth=-00

keyframes_label=0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0.1,0.2,0.3,0.4,0.5,0.6,0.7,0.8,0.9,1

keyframes_icon=0,0.1,0.2,0.3,0.4,0.5,0.6,0.7,0.8,0.9,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1

duration=150



# main disappearing when sub-menu appears

[launcher_back]

duration=170

depth=-200



# main appearing when sub-menu disappears

[launcher_forward]

duration=300

depth=900





# Screen rotation transition

# duration_in = time for rotation before blanking

# duration_out = time for rotation after blanking

# damage_timeout = in the rotation transition, the amount of milliseconds to

#                  leave after we get a damage event before we transition back

#                  from blanking.

# damage_timeout_max = maximum amount of time we may wait if we keep getting

#                      damage events.

# angle = rotation angle for each transition, in degrees. Ideally this is set

#         so that the screen looks like it keeps turning at the same speed 

#         during blanking. 0 is none, 90 degrees is side-on

[rotate]

duration_in=200

duration_out=200

damage_timeout=100

damage_timeout_plus=400

damage_timeout_max=400

angle=0

# changed from 100 in order to reduce jerkiness of transition (also changed the 

# fade-out so it doesn't fade to black completely)



# App close transition

[app_close]

duration=380



# Popup for dialogs and status menu

[popup]

duration_in=250

duration_out=250



# Fade in for banners

# _alpha specifies the final transparency of various things

# currently only banner_note and info_note are supported

[fade]

duration_in=200

duration_out=200

banner_note_alpha=0.85

info_note_alpha=0.85



# Transition for notification previews

[notification]

is_cool=0

duration_in=400

duration_out=450



# Sliding subview window transition

[subview]

duration_in=250

duration_out=250



[loading_timeout]

# This is multiplied by the load average to find the timeout

# in seconds. before "Unable to load" is displayed.  There is

# a minimum of 10s.

load_average_factor=7.5



# Edit mode configuration

[edit_mode]

snap_grid_size=4

# Set to 0 if snap to grid should be only happen when widget is released

snap_to_grid_while_move=1

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Code:

##

# Special tweaks (a restart might be required)

##

[thp_tweaks]

# Blurless desaturation (0 = default, 1 = MeeGo/Symbian-style)

blurless = 1



# Bigger task switcher (0 = default, 1 = single column, 2 = two columns)

taskswitcher = 1

...part should look like that. then it works.

I prettymuch like these extra tweaks. hope to see lots more :)

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU

You have the changes commented out

Code:

# Blurless destaturation=1



# Bigger task switcher=2

Remove the #s
Also, next time, please use [code][/code] for long pastes

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU

While I was changing it on the bottom of my fial there was a fragment consisting patches from THP where I just changed the values. I searched for my transitions.ini with mc and it foun 3 files. maybe you are editing the wrong one? do you use special themes or theme customizer?

edit:
MohammadAG as always solved the problem :)

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU

I don't use Modest so I can't comment on the changes there (gmail's faster ;) ), but hildon-desktop and hildon-status-menu seem to be perfectly fine over here for the time being. If anything explodes, will track it down and let y'all know.

Thanks for getting this rolling! It is very much appreciated.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mthmob (Post 937226)

remember to seach the forum before asking for help, this might be related to a corrupted database.
check here:
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=56037

my conversations is still not working properly..

im not even sure if i did everythng correct.. i got confused at the step:
sqlite3 el-v1.db .dump > el-v1.db.sql

and
sqlite3 el-v1.db.new < el-v1.db.sql

im meant to do these in xterm as well yeh?
because when i enter those, nothing happends...

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Reboot option is broken since maemo10 ..... phone shuts down instead of reboot!

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU

Just a thought, is there any way to enable application crash logging / dump logging system wide so that any feedback can be filed with a proper log for debugging....? I've seen too many posts in this thread with "modest crashed" or "MicroB shut down unexpectedly" or "internal error - application web closed" without any kind of proper debug information.

If so, can someone post up the terminal commands so that feedback can be bettered?

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU

Quote:

Originally Posted by sygys (Post 939761)

Reboot option is broken since maemo10 ..... phone shuts down instead of reboot!

I have the same issue !

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Viqsi (Post 939342)

I don't use Modest so I can't comment on the changes there (gmail's faster ;) )

errr... what? There's no gmail app, so you must refer to the web interface which is 1) slower than using modest + imap and 2) only works online

So a properly working modest is essential and covers most of my email needs

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well simplified gmail web interface is not so slow ..
and not crashing like modest lol

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this CSSU really works for me! Mail is a lot faster and so on.
But I can't find fixes for the camera.
is the flash timing altered? or some other compression settings?
I have the feeling the camera is much better now, can anyone confirm or, even better, point me to a comprehensive bugfix list?