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Some testing packages available at:
http://ftp.tal.org/pub/maemo/testing/fremantle/

Download and install with dpkg

Mainly: Rotation support, pannable feed list, horizontal panning in feed view.

Some images and details on changes at:
http://onion-garlic.blogspot.com/201...ng-part-1.html
and
http://onion-garlic.blogspot.com/201...ng-part-2.html

Sources are in my git repo at:
http://git.tal.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cg....git;a=summary

I won't be adding much features (yet), mainly fixing it to look like a proper finger friendly application as Nokia did a pretty poor job in doing that.

It's not complete yet and there are bugs.

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You wrote that? Because I remember writing that. Pretty early on in the CSSU releases.

Unless you're talking about another wiki page then the one I'm thinking of, that's just blatant lying for... idk, what? What does having people on the internet think you contributed something you didn't actually contribute bring you? If you are talking about a different CSSU wiki page, or some non-CSSU wiki page, then my apologies. But that looks exactly like how I remember wording it when I wrote it.

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Quick question considering the Wiki (Portrait Mode for now, since I'm trying to keep it as clean as possible). How should the fields be filled? In my opinion, the Portrait Mode needs to be more clear, so I'm suggesting this. Some exchanges to be made. For example, how about this.

Status-values would be Fully Usable, Usable, Unusable and rotation-method would be required to be posted. Values for those methods could be Forced, Built-in, Unsupported, Manually Forced (not sure about the last one though). Also, there wouldn't be need to write anything to the Comments if there is nothing to comment. Having terms like Semi-Usable and Forced? won't really help, if you ask me.

I've mentioned using the links earlier (and added them to the Portrait Mode) and I'd request that everyone does check, that the application's name is correct and if you ask me, should be copy-pasted from Package Overview.

Thanks for reading my feedback/rant-hybrid. I'm not trying to take over the Wiki, just trying to contribute to it what I can, for now. :)

So, how does it sound, are those values alright to everyone? I'm open to suggestions. After all, it is a Wiki, that anyone can edit.

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I think "Semi-Usable" definitely belongs there. If I can use 80% of the app's functionality even though some of it is off-screen, it's still usable, but it's not fully usable, and simply saying "usable" is misleading as hell, because that 20% that's not usable might still be important to some people's use-cases of that app, but completely irrelevant to other's use-cases for the same app. While they can both basically fulfill the same function, "semi-usable" is more intuitively understandable as meaning "some stuff is usable, some isn't, but enough is usable that the app isn't completely useless". While "usable" vs. "fully usable", unless you think about it, reads like people trying to say the same thing without standardized terminology at worst, and is a bit more ambiguous at best - at the end of the day, they technically get at the same thing - "usable, but not completely", which I suspect maps more intuitively to semi-usable instead of usable for most people.

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Thanks for all the efforts for CSSU...today I installed..it works good..

One problem, I do not know if anyone has reported here..(I have not read all 158 pages) : I am not able to add any new field in "Edit Contact" mode...my contact application crashes. This problem is observed after CSSU upgrade.

Also quick help on how to change virtual keyboard when in portrait mode would be appreciated. I see that default keyboard is rotated and does not look good. I want to have keyboard as shown in portrait mode video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-tHjGoLzs4 look at keyboard at 0.29.

Also my desktop is not changing to portrait mode...I guess I have to read all pages on this thread...:)

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Ok easy answers first. The keyboard you see at 0.29 is the FastSMSEvo package and can be installed from the dev repo I believe.

Secondly I tried to replicate the issue with adding a field and DID have the problem - it only happens when in portrait.

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Desktop doesn't auto-rotate yet. You can force is to rotate by pressing ctrl+shift+fn+L (widgets don't rearrange, I believe), but it'll only last until you change the window to anything else.

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Excellent work!One request though, I don`t know if its possible or not.........in the email client, I need a 'mark all/read all' option for my emails.I hate going through all of them when I reflash my device!

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This might help:
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...243#post852243

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Or we could have usability rating from 0-5, with 5 being perfectly usable and zero being Unusable (task switcher). Usability is a very subjective matter, but I think this method gives more or less a better understanding of how much of an app is usable.

As for rotation mode, it SHOULD BE required. Maybe we should have a key explaining what supported/forced/etc means?

There is no such thing as taking over the wiki.:D

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thanks for that but i think that option is for exchange.I have gmail and a hotmail account and i have a million unread messages.Any other way of doing a full 'read all' on all of my messages.tnx

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ok so far its awesome, i am getting an internal error message from time to time ( e-mail and web ) but its very smooth, and very redponsive .
is it possible to have faster kinetic scrolling in the conatcs app/ phone app/e-mail .....

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I understand that the virtual keyboard cannot be changed for portrait mode becuase it is closed source, but is it possible to port over a QT virtual keyboard to use instead of the normal one?
for example http://qt-apps.org/content/show.php/...content=107388

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what about fastsmsevo ?

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will the gconftool command bring the option to the status menu?
i try this, but nothin happend!

btw. what is disable_phone_gesture... this is also in my hildon-desktop gconf.xml

cheers

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I did experiment with faster scrolling and did get higher FPS (not that high though) but it raised CPU usage to 100% while scrolling so I doubt I'll include that.

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ahh yeah..i did experience this prob too today when i tried to edit the contacts from call history..the phone auto rebooted..

but no worries though... =P

solution : open the qwerty keyboard to input the details..

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Installed CSSU yesterday (for the first time) and noted few things:
1. Change theme and it will never change wallpaper and icons even after killall hildon-desktop
2. There is a line near top in the menu while in portrait mode
3. While inside any folder of menu, if we rotate device then we come out of the folder to main menu containing folders (have catorise installed)
4. While screen is locked, first power button press is ALWAYS ignored while before CSSU (before yesterday), power button used to get ignored only sometimes.
5. Lock screen is screwed in some theme and works fine in others.

I am not sure which of above bugs have been mentioned already but just writing those I have encountered.

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I can't see it in the Changelog, is the bug that makes hildon-desktop to increase CPU load fixed?

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Chill. I meant the whole page.

Geez, egos eh ?

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Yes, it's part of the TODO for the first release's hildon-desktop. I'm sure merlin1991 would appreciate some help fleshing that out :-)

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Fastsmsevo, only support Latin based languages for now (with lack of fast switching between Latin and the Non-Latin layouts - this does not suit all users.

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my taskswitcher sometimes looks like in the attachment (check background), is this because of something in the cssu?

I have: taskswitcher = 2 and blurless = 1 in transitions.ini
is this related?

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No, it used to happen to me since PR1.2

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Better still how about just duplicating the Opera browser keyboard and including the Fastmsevo T9 to then have the best of all?

If not the Fastsmsevo but also using the predictive test from the standard VKB?

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I to think the opera keyboard is great as it does not take so much screen estate.

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CSSU team, i have a question:
Can we solve the N900 problem of dropped calls (by maybe giving the phone application more priority or something (i don't know, I am not the developer here, am I?)) anytime during any of the future updates?
IMO, that is a more serious issue than portrait mode desktop.
Thanks

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I installed the CSSU since it first public release and have no preblem with it so far, good work :)
I have two suggestions:
-A gconf key to deactivate the menu for changing position of applications that PR1.2 introduced, I use ApMeFo for reorganizing applications so it is totally useless to me plus something it launch itself for no reason, which make the phone irresponsible for 3 seconds.
-A gconf key to select the root of file selector.

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is there only this theme for conversation ?

i like both avatar left and dont like bubble mode :(

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Here is my customised version of Conversation for use in Portrait.

Replace Avatar.png with your own picture 64x64 pixel.

Hope this can be added into the CSSU firmware. Bubble colour can be change in CSS file.

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I bit the bullet and installed this yesterday. I also installed the enhanced kernel for the first time.
My phone is just out of warranty so no worries anymore.

Anyway, I now have an updated phone that is way more responsive, feels more intuitive, and after 24 hours is still rock solid at 1150MHz. The battery seems to be lasting longer too (I'm using ulv profile).

I am using force rotait and all the new transitions - no problems as such as yet, though I can confirm the portrait contacts edit does lock-up the application, and I am having to press power twice to unlock which I never had to do before. I did initially have issues with loss of all catalogues and authentication failure to my wireless router but these were resolved by a reboot.

Feels like a brand new phone. Awesome job, kudos to all involved :)

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thanks maxximuscool

can you replace colours with green and blue ? :D

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Yes I can, you can too. if you unzip it and open the css and type in green and blue then it will change. But if you don't know how then I'll do it very soon. I having dinner at midnight.

Spent like 3hours testing the conversation before released it. I got a few versions but there is a pro and con on each one. But this one seems the less cons than the bubbles versions

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Here you go. Green and Blue Conversation bubble.

Hope you like it.

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There have been some discussion about updating the guts of our Maemo system (Kernel, PulseAudio, Tracker, some libraries) but one think that concerns me is about updating Qt libraries.

With the recently releases Qt 4.7.2, I think we are beginning to be left behind. How are we going to maintain up-to-date our systems compared with Symbian and Desktop?

If we push a new version of Qt into the CSSU, will we be able to still use QtCreator (that would include obsolete libraries for Maemo)?

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Opera keyboard has already been ruled out because it's too far integrated within Opera. However it should be possible to get a keyboard such as Fastsmsevo to look like it (at least I don't see why it would be too hard)

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This discussion should/is happening on maemo-developers:

http://lists.maemo.org/pipermail/mae...ry/028193.html

The more end-usery thread on TMO is not the best place for it ;-)

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I'm sorry, didn't notice about it :)

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ok, i see that there is gonna be a conversation portrait mode support,and i see a LOT of possibilities for that....
but i think that all these are just mod-s...
now, in a spirit of CSSU, witch i think is suppose to bring us update, and fixes of the existing apps, i think it would be more convenient just to see a plane portrait support for conversations....
no bubbles, or some other mods.... let users pick there own if they want... :)
better yet, a plane and simple ui style, witch is allready there, but with no need to scroll horizontal in portrait mod.....

MAYBE, only a OWN AVATAR.... (same side, or other side) that could be useful...
but again, not in the way how it is implemented now (you must put your own avatar in /usr/share/rtcom-messaging-ui/html... crop, copy, etc... NO!)
that wouldn't be appropriate for noobs, and even maybe people who is not willing to do all that necessary stuff....

there is an option in "contact" app called "my information"...
and there is an option to put your avatar (pic)...
so it could retire info from that source, and it would be more user friendly ;)
so that would be a best way to get a own avatar in conversation (if it would be included in SCCU)

thx again for all who reads my posts ;)

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AFAIK there is already a patch somewhere in this thread to come by this horizontal scrolling thing, though I haven't tested it yet.